I have to wonder ..if Martin was 21 instead of 17 and had a permit to carry, would he have had the right to “Stand His Ground?”
When Zimmerman got out of his car after being told by the police not to approach the “suspect walker” and approached and confronted the kid anyway, would the kid then have had a right to tell him he was carrying concealed and demand that Zimmerman ‘BACK OFF.’
Not sure which timeline you have read...but you seem to have it wrong or have been studying the wrong case. Please, first site the reference he was told not the follow, secondly that he was told not to follow BEFORE he got out of his vehicle.
Did the kid, since he was doing nothing wrong, have the right to stand his ground and protect himself with his fists when confronted by Zimmerman? ….Zimmerman who had no legal right to demand why the kid was walking on the sidewalks in Zimmerman’s “territory?”
Can you share your crystal ball which has shown you, and only you, who confronted who to everyone else? Zimmerman has all the right in the world to ask someone why they are in his neighborhood, Martin has no obligation to answer him, nor would he have any right to shoot someone or pound their head into the cement for said question either. I presume "territory" was in parenthesis for a reason, which reason is that?
If Zimmerman had stayed in his vehicle and had just followed the kid while waiting for the LEO, and not gotten into the kid’s face, there would be no discussion here. Zimmerman was not a trained “Community Watch” person, nor a LEO, and had no right to place himself in a self-defense situation and would have avoided problems by simply staying in his car.
I agree, he should have stayed in his car, but getting out of his car is not illegal either. Zimmerman has a right to get out of his car, has a right to walk around in his neighborhood, and even has a right to watch someone walking down the sidewalk suspiciously.
My read is Martin had the right to “stand his ground!” And not to be shot by a stranger using deadly force in a confrontational fist-fight he started! I know if I was Martin and had Zimmerman confronted me in this situation, I would have ask him to back-off …of course, I am an armed citizen and I am satisfied he would have, once I informed him of his peril if he persisted, left me alone immediately.
You seem to be all about "rights." Yet, you don't believe in Zimmermans 1st amendment rights, or his right to defend himself from grave bodily injury. Again, please show us your crystal ball which showed you, and only you, that Zimmerman started the fist fight. I think if I was Martin, I would still be in school, would not have drugs in my system, would not have been suspended multiple times, would also have told Zimmerman to back off, but would not blindside him and start bashing his head into the concrete just because he asked me what I was doing.
I have to deduct Zimmerman was not stupid. He was ready, willing and desiring to shoot himself a ‘bad-guy.’
