First look at the beginning, I am with the LEOs---dark deserted kind of area, appears to be a prostitute/drug related situation. In no time at all, everything goes haywire. I agree with previous replier---make sure these LEOs are fired; bring suit against the city etal settling for public apology and firing of LEOs. Trouble is they will be hired by another city--this happens all the time. I agree that this is the 1 in a 1000 and not the norm. These LEOs did not follow procedure and were caught up in the moment to the point that they really demonstrated inexcusable behaviour.
LEO seriously abuses CCW holder
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OpenCarryYes
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Well, this made the homepage of foxnews.com today. Maybe it will get the attention it deserves.
tanker1983
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Thug with a badge.
After reading all the various threads now will have to wait and see what the final outcome will be with the courts. I agree the officer went way overboard and should suffer consequences for his actions. This could be used as a good training video as what not to do as so many things could have gone horribly wrong. Glad the dash camcorder recording did not get lost or erased and has been posted all over the internet. No Way to deny anything.
Firefighterchen
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Everyone wants the officer fired, I agree. People want the ccw holder to sue..eh i don't agree, but that is just my opinion. But why wouldn't everyone want the police officer to go to jail? He assaulted someone with a deadly weapon three times!
1. Treatening to stick a gun to civilians head
2. Threatening to cave in civilians face
3. Threatening to execute civilian
All these would land a civilian in jail over night at least. This officer is not just a bad cop, but a bad person through and through.
1. Treatening to stick a gun to civilians head
2. Threatening to cave in civilians face
3. Threatening to execute civilian
All these would land a civilian in jail over night at least. This officer is not just a bad cop, but a bad person through and through.
These officers need some serious jail time. They clearly infringed on the right to carry, they clearly infringed on the Miranda rights, they clearly violated the owners rights entering his car without obtaining permission, they clearly communicated threats of death or doing serious bodily harm with both firearms and nightsticks against cooperative civilians (either of which should by law entitle the CCW holder to fear for his life and use his weapon in self defense)... if this is what we have to count on cops for, we may be better off counting them as being among the bad guys we're having to defend ourselves against. Who would ever in their right mind think a cop is your friend in a BAD situation, when they can't do anything but abuse you in a FRIENDLY situation. Astonishing!
[the more times I watch this video, the madder I get... the cops need to lose their rights to ever touch a gun again in multiple felony convictions, which would make them unemployable as cops, EVER AGAIN!]
One more thing I picked up on in seeing this video again, the first cop threatened to execute the driver, and said his fellow cop would be a supportive witness to him doing it. Seems to me there are problems of corruption, racketeering, and criminal conspiracy running rampant in the Canton Police Department. The assumption that he could execute a civilian, and the fact that the 2nd officer went along with that scenario without question says they have an established criminal empire, no different than the Afghan and Pakistani Armies have their al Quaeda operations deep in their operations. This is a threat to any and all Americans, and I take it much more personally having relatives in Ohio, and having to go there to visit them.
Ropadope
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He mos def didn't have the best SA (situational awareness) of the situation from the start to the end of this encounter. Had that been a real bad guy both officers would now be in a casket with full honors, for being stupid and complacent.
He totally ignores the driver during the first 7 minutes of the stop. He's lucky it was a law abiding citizen with CCWD permit. He's upset due to his own lack of controlling the priniciple that really mattered in this incicdent. So yes, he's taking out his own stupidity on the CCDW holder, prostitute or no prostitute.
How many threats did that officer make for bodily injury doing this stop ?? Good gawd dude, you need a hug.
Boomboy007
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Sorry to disabuse you of this notion, but.......
I was a cop for three years. The reason that I quit the job is because I am a strict constitutionalist, and this attitude is pervasive among the law enforcement community. One in one thousand? Try one in three. Worse than that is the fact that most of the others remain silent, or even complicit, when they recognize these abuses.
I am NOT the type to remain silent when witnessing abuses to the constitution to which I swore an oath. Not even when it is some homeless/drug addicted/prostitute/scumbag/criminal.
I was a cop for three years. The reason that I quit the job is because I am a strict constitutionalist, and this attitude is pervasive among the law enforcement community. One in one thousand? Try one in three. Worse than that is the fact that most of the others remain silent, or even complicit, when they recognize these abuses.
I am NOT the type to remain silent when witnessing abuses to the constitution to which I swore an oath. Not even when it is some homeless/drug addicted/prostitute/scumbag/criminal.
Boomer!! How ya doin? Tell it like it is, brother...
Completely agree! That moron needs to be somebody's b!tch for a couple of years! There is absolutely NO excuse for behavior of that nature. The LEO caused all of his own angst and he took it out on the civilian!
averagejoe
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This cop needs to be charged with assault and making deadly threats, being reprimanded is not enough in this instance. Someone like this has no business carrying a badge period.
Seeya
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Well done, BR, that was good thinking. I don't need to do that around here since it's well-publicized that we have some idiots in the PD. They're kept on a tight leash after 2 of them (who were fired) made a motorist stand outside in sub-zero weather a couple winters ago while they made racist cracks about him, on the computer and over the radio! Guy got frostbite on his face and ears and made a tidy little bundle from the city (of course, that was some of my tax dollars he got). So, our men and ladies in blue are fairly humble. It helps that they know a lot us carry, concealed and openly.
Some other readers might want to do the same thing you did. Kudos to ya.
Some other readers might want to do the same thing you did. Kudos to ya.
Probably the most truthfully honest comment on this thread. Many people like to stick their head in the sand when it comes to this issue. Plenty people will see this vid and say that what happened is horrible and then turn around and say this usually never happens when it does on a daily basis but does not get coverage. Thank you for you words.
BigSlick
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Boomer, You sound like the exception rather than the rule. I am glad that you have such high morals and respected for the constitution. We need more cops with that kind of attitude. Thank you for your service.
Rocketgeezer
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Hits the nail on the head with a 10 lb sledge, dumb SOB should be a unarmed mall cop, maybe checking for locked gates and doors
Pinnacle Safety
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I think jjflash #s are closer to the truth and if your not reporting the abuse your as bad as the abuser ofcourse youll be ostrisised by your dept but nobody said it was easy to do the right thing
