ajr2820
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Please explain why you believe this was a mistake. If he is telling the truth and truly feared for his life, this is exactly what someone SHOULD do.
what do you think about zimmerman
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Please explain why you believe this was a mistake. If he is telling the truth and truly feared for his life, this is exactly what someone SHOULD do.
eagleeyes
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i bought myself a hoodie after tray got shot as they were on sale from at a dollar store i went to the original price was 15 on sale for 5 what a deal not that i would wear it much being in tropical south florida but it's a nice turquoise color and has faux fur around the hood plus it would conceal my gun really really good
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while hoodies are use by some criminals not all criminals wear them in fact many wear suits and ties others wear suits and ties and tell big fat lies on tv too
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while hoodies are use by some criminals not all criminals wear them in fact many wear suits and ties others wear suits and ties and tell big fat lies on tv too
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Shoobee
Banned
Unfortunately for Z it is unlikely that the judge and/or the jury will see it that way.
Had T.M. been armed, then yes.
But you are completely forgetting and blocking out of your mind that T.M. was unarmed and minding his own business right up to the time he got profiled, stalked, confronted, into a fight, and shot by a paranoid wanna-be rambo.
eagleeyes
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tm wasn't missing his arms ....if he used his arms and hands to sucker punch zim and beat his head to the ground that is legal justification to use lethal force
gun or no gun if he got the upper hand of zim which i think he did zim had every right to fire at him. yes he did
i just wish him luck and that if he was indeed attacked like he said he should walk imo
gun or no gun if he got the upper hand of zim which i think he did zim had every right to fire at him. yes he did
i just wish him luck and that if he was indeed attacked like he said he should walk imo
Shoobee
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Z wasnt missing his arms either. What a bozo though.
Shoobee
Banned
No I would not shoot an unarmed person.
I would rip his arm off and shove it up his wahzoo.
But then I am not a one trick pony.
Shoobee
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Shamrock Bail
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perception is different
Perception is on a sliding scale for all of us.. Some have martial arts training, boxing or street fighting skills and are confident in those, others not so much..
My wife and I will feel threatened on a level of perception based on life experience and training, but no one can tell another person that he or she shouldnt have feared for ones life especially when evidence shows of a beating.. Zimmerman perceieved life in danger, presented deadly force and ended the threat..
Perception is on a sliding scale for all of us.. Some have martial arts training, boxing or street fighting skills and are confident in those, others not so much..
My wife and I will feel threatened on a level of perception based on life experience and training, but no one can tell another person that he or she shouldnt have feared for ones life especially when evidence shows of a beating.. Zimmerman perceieved life in danger, presented deadly force and ended the threat..
stantheman1976
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The dumbass put himself in that situation by profiling Martin and trying to be a junior cop by following him. He should have never left his house in the first place. If he was concerned he should have let the police do their job and armed himself to protect his own home and family.
Sure Zimmerman was in danger when he was fighting with T.M. but the fact is that if he had not followed the kid and gotten out of his car the fight that led to the shooting never would have happened.
Zimmerman made his own bed and now he has to lie in it.
SGB
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While it's true Zimmerman made some tactically unsound decisions it does not mitigate the fact that Martin made worse. Basing justice on emotions derived of conjecture rather than the impartiality of fact is simply intellectually dishonest.
Firefighterchen
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stantheman1976:321913 said:
How far back do you want to go? If Martin had not been suspended from school, he would not have been there walking suspiciously.
Why should Zimmerman have not left his house? That's what people do when they need to go to the grocery store for more food. Is that not what you do when you need food? If anything were to happen on the way, at the grocery store, or on the way home, should it be okay to dismiss self defense because you should have never left your home in the first place?
BC1
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But why is that? Because he got tossed out of school for a little weed? No different from numerous good, law-abiding citizens.
Has he ever been convicted of any crime? Has he been known to hurt others. Has he ever committed a robbery, sexual crime, assault or murder? Why is he a threat to society? If I find someone shadowing me the reaction may be quite unpredictable, depending on the circumstances that bring us together. If I felt threatened by this strange person possibly shadowing me, a head bang might be the least of their worries. Things can unintentionally go bad for all of us.
Personally, I think this is a situation that arose from a number of unfortunate, if not coincidental circumstances, and these guys came to a confrontation. I don't believe either went out looking for trouble. But the truth is I have no idea what happened that night. No one else on this forum does either. We'll have to see how this plays out.
aluminator
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I haven't read the whole thread but, IMO Zimmerman is a nosey mall ninja who had no business following the kid.However, once he was in fear for his life he had the right to do what he did.
BluesStringer
Les Brers
I'm curious what your professional opinion is as to whether or not this has the potential to play out fairly at this point? Does it concern you that the judge announced to the world that Zimmerman *lied* about his finances, when it seems it was his wife, not him, who lied?
I agree 100% with what you say above, but I'm very skeptical of a fair trial even being possible now. What say you?
Blues
