I'll always get my ammo from independent gun stores. Patronize our Local Merchants and "Buy American"!
On these threads I repeatedly see people buying from Wally World. Granted, they might be a little cheaper. However, no way I'd patronize WW considering their propensity to buy most of their inventory from foreign countries! I'll always get my ammo from independent gun stores. Patronize our Local Merchants and "Buy American"!
Git Er Done!
I worked for an "American" automobile manufacturer in California for almost 30 years. I have purchased American made vehicles for 35 years. The company I worked for manufactured and sold vehicles in more than a dozen countries around the world. That means that though the trucks, RVs, and cars that I bought and drove were manufactured in Japan and Canada and Europe and Asia and South America, they were still "American" because they sported a GM logo. Those vehicles were manufactured and semi- assembled in over--seas countries, but the final assembly was here in the US where the products were sold. Is that an American vehicle? Hondas are made in the US. Chevrolet Cameros and Pontiac Firebirds are made in Canada. "Foreign" vehicles (Honda, Toyota) are made in the US. Buy American? Hah! That means nothing! Define American! Go on. I'll wait. :sarcastic:
On these threads I repeatedly see people buying from Wally World. Granted, they might be a little cheaper. However, no way I'd patronize WW considering their propensity to buy most of their inventory from foreign countries! I'll always get my ammo from independent gun stores. Patronize our Local Merchants and "Buy American"!
Git Er Done!
Good point. I drive a Toyota truck that was made in Kentucky. And I drive a Camaro that was made in Canada. I got all of the bases covered.
Oh, And I buy ammunition at Wally World. It's priced right and the one I go to always seems to have plenty of .40 and .45 They even seem to usually have 9mm. 380 though is a different story.
The one in Lebanon PA just got some .380 (WWB- $37/100) for the first time in about a year. Go figure, I just bought some at a gunshow ($40/100 plus entry fee) a day earlier.... always seems to have plenty of .40 and .45 They even seem to usually have 9mm. 380 though is a different story.
I define American made as something where the majority of the parts were designed, engineered and manufactured in the U.S.A. and the majority of the money that is payed for one goes to Americans...
Care to cite your sources? Got a list of companies that you would care to share with us?
What about Mexican and Canadian companies? They are American companies, too.
You also stated: "Your American Made Honda or Toyota for instance may be assembled in America but that is about it..." This is pretty much an untruth if the assembly plants have joined the UAW. Few have. That is both good and bad, imho. Good if working conditions and wages are better than than those in unionized plants, yet bad if the company slashes wages or benefits or degrades the working conditions then there is nothing the worker or the union can do for redress.
Granted, the companies might be foreign based, but the people who work for the Honda or Toyota plants in the USA are Americans. They are living, working, and playing here in the USA, spending their money here at home just as you or I might do. I don't begrudge the workers anything. They have jobs, many don't.
I, too, don't like many aspects of free trade agreements. I don't think Clinton did well by us, especially allowing truckers/big rigs into the lower California areas, tearing up the freeways without monetary compensation of licensing and taxation fees with which to fix them, and driving erratically and dangerously! We, the USA, gave a lot to other countries with those agreements, we get little back!
Wal*Mart is an "American" company. Few of their wares are "Made in the USA." Those slogans mean nothing.
I will agree to disagree with you...
Further, nothing I stated is untrue...
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, regardless of how misguided that may be...
In my view if the Company is on U.S. Soil, 100% wholly owned & operated by U.S. Citizens than its a American company.
Honda, Toyota, etc., do not fit that description...
To buy something Non-American, when American is available, is the reason why last year was the first year in U.S. history that FOREIGN MADE CARS accounted for greater than 50% of all Automobile & Truck Sales in the United States...
That's a big fricking problem if you want to keep Americans working and American dollars in America...
The same goes for Wally World, they actually try to get American made items on the shelf, and when I buy at Walmart, if it says made in U.S.A. then I buy it...
U.S. Auto workers employed by Honda, Toyota etc., make disproportionately less in wages and insurance coverage than, those employed by G.M., Ford, Dodge, etc., in the U.S.
Further, they receive a disproportionately greater number of h1b visa and other temporary worker visa's than other Auto Manufacturers such as Ford, et.al.
The American UAW along with the stinking free trade agreements that we can thank Ronald Reagan, H.W. Bush, Slick-Willie and W. Bush for are a huge reason why we now have Government Run Auto manufacturers...
And Union's like the UAW and SEIU (and its sibling ACORN) are why we now have the Socialist in Chief & Company nationalizing everything in sight; Banks, Auto Manufacturers, and Health Care Providers if we let them force ObamaCare down our throats too...
Ford has started a trend of bringing back its work into the U.S. for some time now, and has closed many plants in Mexico & Canada...
Its a start...
Toyota & Honda, and most other foreign based/owned Auto manufacturers to the UAW - "We Are Not Interested"
According to the federal government, (not that I take much stock in what the fed says) a vehicle with a 75-percent or more domestic parts rating is classified as a domestic vehicle. The web-based resource site Cars.com has compiled the 'American Made Index' that lists the top ten vehicles made in the U.S. according to where their parts came from, where they were finally assembled, and even how many were sold in the U.S.
The ten vehicles and where they're assembled are:
Again, what they fail to note is in the case of the toyota's listed herein is that most of the profit goes back to Japan...
- Ford F-Series - Dearborn, Mich.; Kansas City, Mo.; Louisville, Ky.; Norfolk, Va. (Except Ford F-650, F-750)
- Chevrolet Silverado - Fort Wayne, Ind.; Pontiac, Mich.
- Toyota Camry; Camry Solara - Georgetown, Ky. (Except hybrid Camry)
- Ford E-Series - Lorain, Ohio
- Chevrolet Cobalt - Lordstown, Ohio
- Ford Explorer - Louisville, Ky.; St. Louis, Mo.
- Chevrolet Malibu/Malibu Maxx - Kansas City, Kan.
- Ford Escape - Kansas City, Mo.
- Toyota Sienna - Princeton, Ind.
- Chevrolet TrailBlazer - Moraine, Ohio (Except now discontinued TrailBlazer EXT)
Lastly, my case in point is that IF you look for made in (or predominantly made) U.S.A. products; cars or otherwise you can find them...
Hungry?
Out of Work?
Eat your Rice Burner...
Yes, we are ALL entitled to our opinions. That said, we don't need a flame war. We don't need labels. They are so very inaccurate. We certainly don't need put-downs. I didn't put you down and I don't appreciate your attempts. Labels and put-down are how flame wars begin. Stick to the subject. Being disrespectful does nothing to assist the points you maintain, it merely shows opinion, sometimes ignorance.
Your reasoning is circular, therefore flawed. I'll agree to disagree, especially when it's clear that you understood exactly and absolutely NOTHING that I wrote. :no: *sigh* That's life. Oh, well. *shaking head and walking away*
I'd just like to point out that all the rules are the same for Mexican trucks, including the taxes. Each truck is taxed based on the volume of fuel burned in each state (calculated using the fleets fuel economy and the miles traveled in each state by each individual truck). So, the tax collected is directly proportional to how many miles are logged in the state, regardless of the origin of the truck. Also, while in the US, Mexican (and Canadian) drivers are subject to the same hours of service regulations as US drivers. As far as driving erratically and dangerously, please. Come over here to the northeast to see erratic drivers, most of which are American citizens. Point being, bad drivers come in all shapes and sizes. Proportionally, I doubt there are many more dangerous Mexican drivers than US drivers.I, too, don't like many aspects of free trade agreements. I don't think Clinton did well by us, especially allowing truckers/big rigs into the lower California areas, tearing up the freeways without monetary compensation of licensing and taxation fees with which to fix them, and driving erratically and dangerously!
I didn't really want to stray any further off topic than we already have but...
Before we start ripping free trade, let's realize that our tax structure is so much more responsible for our U.S. auto mfg. jobs going to Mexico and Canada than NAFTA. The same is true for pretty much all of our mfg. jobs that are going overseas. Let's not quell free trade, let's just truly make it free. Let's also realize how much damage the unions have done to their own industry. I'll never fault someone for buying foreign if foreign is superior in quality vs. cost. Unions continue to demand higher than market value wages and we tax the hell out of our domestic companies, then wonder why we can't compete with non-union foreign makers. Then, instead of letting them fail and learn from it, we go and bail them out. Sorry, but I just will not buy American for buying American's sake when the American option sucks.
I'd just like to point out that all the rules are the same for Mexican trucks, including the taxes. Each truck is taxed based on the volume of fuel burned in each state (calculated using the fleets fuel economy and the miles traveled in each state by each individual truck). So, the tax collected is directly proportional to how many miles are logged in the state, regardless of the origin of the truck. Also, while in the US, Mexican (and Canadian) drivers are subject to the same hours of service regulations as US drivers. As far as driving erratically and dangerously, please. Come over here to the northeast to see erratic drivers, most of which are American citizens. Point being, bad drivers come in all shapes and sizes. Proportionally, I doubt there are many more dangerous Mexican drivers than US drivers.
I would think that G.M. and the others whom took advantage of the Free Trade Agreements found that paying somebody 90 cents a day and no benefits vs. $20.00 and hour plus benefits, and deregulation, c-ya to the Unions, closing 11 plants and opening 3 Foreign to replace the closed 11 U.S. to be more compelling than avoiding 21% embedded taxes before putting a price tag on a new vehicle here in the U.S....
Yes our tax structure is atrocious, Unconstitutional and we need to implement the "Fair Tax Act" Americans For Fair Taxation: Americans For Fair Taxation
But in my view ALL the Free Trade Agreements have to go away period...
The only ones whom have benefited thus far are the Foreign based companies whom pay little or no tax on what they import here vs. what we import there, and the bazillion G.M. & other Vice Presidents that hosed us...
I will continue to not put one nickle in a non-U.S. pocket IF there is an American Alternative, even if I have to pay more...
Or its of lesser quality... (they will get the riot act if it is and be forced to make it better)
Its a matter of principal with me...
Buy American, give a Soldier coming home something to come home to...
Bring Back American Pride...
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