Deanimator
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Exactly how and why would you debate somebody with the SAME opinion?
Michael Brown
- Thread starter Courtney.cj.chen
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Courtney.cj.chen
Courtney
Correct. First contact was made by the store keep for whatever reason. Until then- who knows why this tiny man would want to "accost" this teenager- when the juxtaposition of their statures remind me of the story, David and Goliath. And again you're correct- in the very same theory- that the- "said person" has yet to claim that he was a victim of theft/strong arm robbery- he also has yet to deny that he is a victim of such- as well.
The owner doesn't need to be the source of the robbery report- bc here's a theory. First off- a customer had already called it in & described whatever they saw Fine- as long as the story doesn't come from the owner. One of my girlfriends, her father is an immigrant from china, and owns a little take out joint, called China Chop Suey. Its in north city. He's been robbed before. By customers he knows. but he WONT CALL IT IN. because people in that area- teach you that "SNITCHES GET STITCHES"- this is not some gangster- lifestyle that you see in the movies. This is a REAL LIFE MOTTO people live by. Why do you think QT was the first to be looted and torched? It may be just a coincidence that - the first rumor- was that Brown stole cigars from QT. The employees at QT described their experience at QT- when the place got looted- somewhere along the lines as such: we locked ourselves in (some room)- until someone said they knew a way to get out without being spotted. Then we ran out while covering up our uniform shirt. (why cover the uniform shirt?)
http://fox2now.com/2014/08/11/quikt...-fire-during-overnight-looting-near-ferguson/
Now the gentleman- in this interview- is an unconfirmed source. bc he covers up his identity. Since he did. how would we know if the story is true or not!!! right?!! unconfirmed source. Hell, he's probably lying about everything. Come on- show your face. (backdrop- snitches get stitches) makes you wonder why no witnesses of the "other side" want to give out their names/identities.
There's another analysis out there (or just over here, being typed out) The owner does not want to be involved! they want to be able to reopen their store and not fear reprecussions of angry customers/community/looters. The owner knows that they have NOTHING to benefit from this in opening their mouth. Now, on a separate note- IMO If their version of what they believe to be true- favored Brown, i think it would be easier for them to defend Brown- bc IMO that will save the future of their business if and when it should reopen. At the end of the day- forget not that- these people have lost their store- and possibly entire livelihood- due to events entirely out of their control- but yet completely demolished their store.
BluesStringer
Les Brers
No victim, no crime, period.
As to the bold part, someone else could report it, true enough, but if the victim doesn't accept his victimhood and sign a statement to same, no victim, no crime, period.
I've owned a retail business before. 10 years and we did very well. I carried a gun every day, and so did my wife. If a robbery had ever been attempted on us, it would've been a very bad day for the robber(s). If I felt incompetent to handle that responsibility, but too afraid to even report it to cops if I had been robbed, then I can guaran-damn-tee you that I would've either found another less dangerous business, or less dangerous place to conduct my business.
Bottom line, no victim, no crime, period.
That being said, and as I have said before, I hold no quarter for looters, thugs or arsonists. I feel bad for anybody who has suffered any undeserved consequences in all this, but as per usual, everyone trying to "reply to" me ignores the subject and deflects into only semi-related side-issues. The store video was used by the cops illegitimately to show a reason why Wilson would have contacted Brown and Johnson. It was a lie. Either this is about the possible justification that existed for Wilson to use deadly force on an unarmed citizen who, as far as he knew at the time, had done nothing but jaywalk, or that question doesn't matter a wit and it's just about demonizing, blaming and using black folk in Ferguson, MO as an excuse to spew screed after racist screed based on a small minority of criminals who have infiltrated the otherwise peaceful, but yeah, pissed off, crowds. One 12 oz. water bottle being thrown last night that didn't even hit any cop, caused at least one cop to aggressively charge a bunch of journalists and protesters with his AR-15 shouldered within a couple of feet of their faces while saying, "I'm going to F'n kill you!" Michael Brown isn't responsible for any of what you're busy trying to demonize him for. He's dead because another cop who also said he was going to shoot the unarmed citizen, did.
Blues
Courtney.cj.chen
Courtney
Yes- thats true- but i'd add- just to specify- no reported victim- then no crime in the eyes of the law. Which - yes- is the only thing that matters- bc its the only thing that can matter. we can't judge what is not being reported. and this is how many mobsters and gangsters get away with crimes- they get rid of bodies, evidence, and witnesses.
Am I directing this analogy towards Brown? Nope- i'd say for both. My guess is- that if the store staff was a victim- his sheer fear of being "silenced" by the mobs- is enough to make all of this- a non crime for Brown. And for the PD to- finally show a video of what looks like Brown as the perpetrator- yet withhold scenes showing Brown at the counter, from the other angle - is very questionable.
Her dad has owned this business for over 30 years. They used to live by there- and then moved residence to a different county after business improved. All his customers know him. (but that doesn't stop robberies) - her father is a nice- but very timid & small Chinese man. He also doesn't believe in carrying guns. He comes from a country where its illegal to own a gun. And then- lo and behold- he gets robbed. Does he deserve it? Should he pick up his place of established 3 decades of business- to move somewhere else- to where it might not be as successful? Thats you, and this is him. Maybe one day- he'll learn the hard way- and actually get robbed- and have a customer call in the crime- and (theoretically speaking)- gets his business demolished. Then we can comment that he should've moved to begin with. I'm using this story- to give a scenario of what it might be like for the owners of Ferguson Mart to speak an unfavorable truth.
Btw on a separate note- this is why more and more businesses that open up/or are left in "bad areas" are shiiiit businesses. Bc most of the good ones- don't stay- because they believe they can not "defend" themselves properly from certain "customers"
There's no argument right now on my end that PD has taken this and made it into a giant clusterfk.
Courtney.cj.chen
Courtney
http://fox2now.com/2014/08/20/st-an...ing-an-assault-rifle-at-a-ferguson-protester/
On another note. My guy is working ferguson the next ten days. I wonder if they're going to cancel another week of school-
On another note. My guy is working ferguson the next ten days. I wonder if they're going to cancel another week of school-
Firefighterchen
OC for Tactical Advantage
I'm not a big fan of the term assault rifle...but maybe in this case a semi automatic rifle was used in an assaulting way...
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BC1
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None whatsoever. If that's what he believes he saw he may report it.
bofh
Banned
They may need to cancel even more than that: Ferguson Prosecutor Says No Charge Decision Until October - Businessweek
Jarhead6541
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Autopsy expert hired by Brown family may not be qualified?
“I am a forensic pathologist assistant and medical investigator,” Parcells told FOX 4’s Shannon O’Brien.
“That is a degree that does not exist in my knowledge, except in the mind of Shawn Parcells,” Dr. Mitchell said.
Shawn Parcells? credentials, role in Michael Brown autopsy questioned by doctors | fox4kc.com
“I am a forensic pathologist assistant and medical investigator,” Parcells told FOX 4’s Shannon O’Brien.
“That is a degree that does not exist in my knowledge, except in the mind of Shawn Parcells,” Dr. Mitchell said.
Shawn Parcells? credentials, role in Michael Brown autopsy questioned by doctors | fox4kc.com
vernsimpson
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That would be about right! Just before the election in November!
Jarhead6541
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Though many of us are [or should be] against the over-militarization of American civilian police forces, along with the reckless & violent tactics against our citizens for even the smallest infractions, the killing of Michael Brown seems of late, to be playing out as a justified shooting as more information becomes available.
Fox news;
"According to the well-placed source, Wilson was coming off another case in the neighborhood on Aug. 9 when he ordered Michael Brown and his friend Dorain Johnson to stop walking in the middle of the road because they were obstructing traffic. However, the confrontation quickly escalated into physical violence, the source said.
“They ignored him and the officer started to get out of the car to tell them to move," the source said. "They shoved him right back in, that’s when Michael Brown leans in and starts beating Officer Wilson in the head and the face."
The source claims that there is "solid proof" that there was a struggle between Brown and Wilson for the policeman’s firearm, resulting in the gun going off – although it still remains unclear at this stage who pulled the trigger. Brown started to walk away according to the account, prompting Wilson to draw his gun and order him to freeze. Brown, the source said, raised his hands in the air, and turned around saying, "What, you're going to shoot me?"
At that point, the source told FoxNews.com, the 6-foot-4, 292-pound Brown charged Wilson, prompting the officer to fire at least six shots at him, including the fatal bullet that penetrated the top of Brown's skull, according to an independent autopsy conducted at the request of Brown's family."
Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source | Fox News
Fox news;
"According to the well-placed source, Wilson was coming off another case in the neighborhood on Aug. 9 when he ordered Michael Brown and his friend Dorain Johnson to stop walking in the middle of the road because they were obstructing traffic. However, the confrontation quickly escalated into physical violence, the source said.
“They ignored him and the officer started to get out of the car to tell them to move," the source said. "They shoved him right back in, that’s when Michael Brown leans in and starts beating Officer Wilson in the head and the face."
The source claims that there is "solid proof" that there was a struggle between Brown and Wilson for the policeman’s firearm, resulting in the gun going off – although it still remains unclear at this stage who pulled the trigger. Brown started to walk away according to the account, prompting Wilson to draw his gun and order him to freeze. Brown, the source said, raised his hands in the air, and turned around saying, "What, you're going to shoot me?"
At that point, the source told FoxNews.com, the 6-foot-4, 292-pound Brown charged Wilson, prompting the officer to fire at least six shots at him, including the fatal bullet that penetrated the top of Brown's skull, according to an independent autopsy conducted at the request of Brown's family."
Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source | Fox News
Courtney.cj.chen
Courtney
A protestor shows up holding a sign showing her support for mo shooting case and the protestors start "going after her" and she had to get whisked away by police because she was by herself. It's ironic how some people can be as violent as the people they're claiming the same of- ie. the abortion protestor who shot 3x and killed an abortion doctor.
BC1
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Yeah but with all due respect... what the hell is wrong with her? She couldn't possibly think that would turn-out OK.
Stengun
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Howdy,
What does this have to do with the subject of this thread?
Just a racist rant.
Paul
What does this have to do with the subject of this thread?
Just a racist rant.
Paul
Courtney.cj.chen
Courtney
Yes. Perhaps she was trying to show how "peaceful" these protestors were- thru her peaceful protest. Turns out their anger weren't just going to be directed towards authoritative figures - it was going to be directed towards anyone that did not agree.
And regarding the st. Ann cop- he should be the poster child for the pd demilitarization campaigns.
BluesStringer
Les Brers
So the officer who threatened a couple white boys is removed from duty immediately while the one who killed Michael Brown is still on paid vacay.
Guess everything's all better now. They got one psychopath off the street.....well.....temporarily anyway. Make it permanent and then go for the 3 or 400,000 remaining psychos out there, and I'll be impressed.
Quite obviously though, it is a hiring and screening problem. They actively look for unfeeling robots like that fool. His temporary suspension is meaningless.
Blues
Double Ought
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Courtney.cj.chen:536313 said:
I heard someone in that crowd threw urine on that poor guy, and another in the crowd had (what turned out to be) a BB gun. They were taunting him and surrounding him. Anyone else hear that?
Courtney.cj.chen
Courtney
Is it not a start that they are showing people- that they are making changes to where changes are necessary? They suspend this guy immediately. They release the video and chief talks about the Tuesday- police involved fatal shooting- right away. Officer Wilson is on paid leave bc it has not been determined if he was involved in a good or bad shooting.
Nick Burkhardt
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Apparently medical experts agree with me
Officer Darren Wilson May Have Suffered Post-Concussion Syndrome - The Truth About Guns
Officer Darren Wilson May Have Suffered Post-Concussion Syndrome - The Truth About Guns
