Except when they're working for gun control, under the radar, the vast majority of times without their memberships' knowledge, and to their great detriment. At that point they become the largest gun control organization in the world. But sycophants don't let facts get in their way.
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And to a large degree, that's a big part of the problem.
As regards the politicians you mention, can you name one that has never voted for a gun control law?
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What does the NRA negotiate on? Our rights, right? Do you give them permission to negotiate bits and pieces of your rights away to usurping criminal politicians? I don't, yet that's what they do anyway. The difference between people like me and y'all, is I don't pay 'em to negotiate and compromise my rights away.
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But wait....I thought the NRA were professional negotiators. I thought you were a force to be reckoned with, yet you say here that the "quality" of your strength can be seen by who won't reckon with you? I'm having a hard time with that. You do realize that, even if every one of the so-called pro gun criminal members of Congress that the NRA makes compromises with suddenly became pure constitutional originalists and wrote the most awesome piece of gun rights legislation the world has ever seen, that if the President won't reckon with you, he's going to veto the bill and you get squat, right?
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Actually, I guess you're right. That fact alone does demonstrate the quality of your strength, and it's weaker than I thought before I sussed out your post.
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What voice do they have in the UN? Is it an official voice, like a State Dept. appointed envoy from the NRA to the UN? Or is it just some lobbyist that glad-hands around the UN building trying to network with foreign despots, tyrants and terrorists, because there aren't enough of them in DC?
I call BS on the NRA "voice" in the UN.
And why are you braggin' on all the hostile relationships the NRA has? Doesn't that really just prove my point, that they're not working in Americans' best interests? Do you really think the majority of people here on this site are particularly fond of the UN?
If I'm sending my money to any political organization, and I find out they're hob-nobbin' with the UN, instead of focusing on our Constitution and preserving its protections from the jackals in DC, they get a note the day I find that out renouncing my membership, and if I can get to the bank and stop payment on the last check I sent 'em, I'm doin' it.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man, delusions of grandeur to the max!
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I see. So you're so incompetent at making your case that you can't get through to the antis, right? And that'll be $25 bucks, Sir! Brilliant arguments you're making here! Simply brilliant!
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Scared, desperate people are easily deceived. That's nothing new.
Funny, in all of this post of yours, I don't see a single link. Mine was covered with them, documenting the basis for every opinion I offered. And just to be clear, I actually held back with the links, because I've been at this long enough to know that most people on forums don't follow them anyway. But I've got hundreds of thousands of words at my immediate disposal to further document a solid and valid rationale for every opinion I state about the NRA. You? Not so much.
That's all well and good, and I have no criticism of your efforts. What I'd like to know is why you think the kind of active participation you describe yourself engaging in, can only be done under the NRA banner? You think there aren't GOA, JPFO, AFA, and a whole host of other leaflets and educational materials being distributed by just as dedicated, and just as committed activists?
See, this is the main question of the thread. Those of us who forego an alliance with the NRA rarely, if ever, even mention it around these boards. But in this thread, we were asked for our rationale, and the fact is, it's so damned solid and incontrovertible, that not one single person has tried to debunk it beyond just saying "THAT'S HORSESH!T!" And now you come along, infinitely more articulate and rational, yet completely ignoring the mountain of evidence I've posted to document the rationale for my opinions and conclusions, and say dishonestly that it's my opinion, and just that. Bull. It's real research. It's a quest for truth. It's historical facts, some of it coming right out of the mouths of your leaders, and going back as far as at least 1930, with involvement in compromising our rights away pieces at a time in the '34 NFA and every single other major piece of federal legislation since then. And that doesn't even take into consideration all the state level battles they have betrayed their members over.
So try as you might to come across otherwise, it is obvious that you're being intentionally disingenuous when you say *all* I've offered is my opinions. And considering how blatant your effort to ignore every piece of evidence supporting my position has been, it suggests a blind, unthinking, sycophantic loyalty to the NRA which they don't deserve by any rational, honest scrutiny of their record.
And I won't charge you a dime for trying to inform you of the truth, whereas, they charge a minimum of $25 bucks a year to incessantly lie to and manipulate you out of more of your money. For what? So they can rub elbows with fat-cats in DC and every once in awhile actually address gun issues, while they use your God-given rights as barter tokens to bargain with? No thanks.
Better luck next time trying to convince unknowing people that their money is being well-spent. It's just this side of being fraudulently extorted from them by playing on their fears on the one hand, and working under the radar to give them good reason to be fearful on the other. The NRA wouldn't even need to exist if our rights were actually being preserved and protected, and with the massive Money Tree they've built for themselves, they have as much motivation to make sure that never happens as Diane Feinstein or Barack Obama. They will never "protect our rights" to their fullest extent, because to do so, would put them right out of business.
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