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Think about this mindset to open carry. Why do it? because you can and you feel safer and maybe the Perp(s) won’t do what they set out to do because they see your gun? No matter what stats are out there claiming it’s a deterrent, there is still that percentage out there that don’t care and that may very well be what you will be up against. Many are career bad-asses, who are badder than you think you are with your exposed weapon and you will be the first one who gets wacked. Why not just keep the element of surprise to yourself and blend in. That’s where your edge will come in and maybe you will come out on top. Practice at the range standing, seated, practice seated or standing with eating utensils in your hand or other things that may occupy your hands, (infant, shopping bags, hand held gadgets etc.). Think of situations you may be doing that aren’t like you are at a range dedicated to just shooting. Practice often, be quick and accurate and be able to account for your rounds, (another legal liability). If you are out in Public try sitting in areas that your back is to a wall and try to have full view of your surroundings and be mindful of that. Find a good holster and carry position that you feel the most comfortable with that makes your weapon you chose easily accessible.
Walking around in open carry will certainly draw attention and most likely a visit from the COPS. I do not blame them, they must respond, especially nowadays. The societal makeup now is so diverse and odd, that all it takes is one to start the ball rolling on a 911 call. They will lie and make things up just to get the response they want. It’s pathetic but the way it is. I have been detailed to “open carry” States and have glanced down at their weapon(s) and observed and listened. With some, they talk about it like its their child, brag and twist and turn so everybody can see it. It’s dorky and unprofessional. I’ve heard some say publicly, “if someone comes in here to do us harm I will shoot them.” OK, you may be right but remember its going to be treated like a homicide case with all of the long legal battles. What you say publicly and what is heard by witnesses will come out in discovery. Even when beyond a reasonable doubt of self-defense of yourself or others it will cost you both emotionally and financially. The legal system too has changed where the Perp gets legally posed to being the Victim.
Just because you can do something doesn’t mean it is wise to. The greatest responsibility as law-abiding citizens who carry is to know when it is right. In retirement I do not open carry and never will. I practice frequently and I am mentally armed with the field smarts learned from the job, (USBP). I want that element of surprise if it should ever happen to me.
Bragging and boasting is not a skill, it’s a prop. Be quiet, skilled, confident and right, blend in, even career criminals are not immune to their very own “Oh Crap” moment.
The rest of your post has already been discussed in the OP, however this line requires attention.Walking around in open carry will certainly draw attention and most likely a visit from the COPS. I do not blame them, they must respond, especially nowadays.
I don't think you get it.Sounds to me like this “Terry Stop” is legal, and “walking away” as you put it, sounds like a bad idea.
I don't think you get it.
For the police to detain you (keep you from leaving and demand answers) they have to have reasonable articulable suspicion that you are involved in a crime. The key word here is 'crime'. If your carry is lawful they cannot detain you merely for doing so. You do not have to speak to them, and it's a good idea not to. Yes, if they are not detaining you you may walk away. When open carry was a daily thing for me I did so on several occasions.
So if I'm openly carrying four pistols on my belt and wearing a tu-tu, while it may be weird and even a tad suspicious, the officer would have to be able to articulate a crime he has a reasonable belief I have violated, am currently violating, our will violate, in order to detain me. He can't use a hunch, he can't cite it looks odd, it doesn't matter that soccer mom called and complained; he MUST be able to cite a specific crime.
Again, as a gun owner it is imperative you know what your rights are regarding police stops, and foolish to assume you don't need to.
You seem to live in a perfect world, where cops know what is legal and what is not, and will honor that. Many cops have their own interpretation of the law, and bad cops simply ignore the laws and your rights.... we see examples in the news daily.
Sure in the end, after arrest, time in jail, lawyer fees, years getting into court, you may prevail, but even that is not a guarantee.
I wouldn’t go as far to say this thread is still going strong when your post was the first one in a year.I'm glad to see that this thread is still going strong. I had been away from this forum for a few years. I view re-reading this thread sort of like studying the history of the 30 years war. Just when you think it might die down, someone else joins in. I particularly like how I was previously able to draw "Big Gay Al" into the discussion.
So exactly what conditions would require open carry? The only one that I would see that wouldn’t necessarily require it but would make a lot better sense and make it a lot easier would be when you’re out in the woods but not for urban carry.I feel like this is a pretty long thread, but I wanted to give my two cents anyways! I feel like the option to open carry and conceal carry depends solely on the person in my opinion. Some situations require open carry while the other is different.
Maybe this is why my question would probably be better left to the original person I asked it from because this doesn’t answer it at all. This doesn’t even pertain to what he said and what I asked. He said requirement, not individual opinion, like there actually was a time.Well now that SC allows OC with the state carry permit, I guess it is not up to you and should be up to the individual gun owner.
I travel eastern SC from Hardeeville to Myrtle Beach and have yet to see anyone open carry. I myself have once or twice, but prefer to carry concealed.Well now that SC allows OC with the state carry permit, I guess it is not up to you and should be up to the individual gun owner.
I’m glad you haven’t had any issues but unfortunately a lot of other people can’t say the same thing or, they just don’t open carry so that they never have to deal with the negative feedback from open carrying.I've OC'd for years in WA with no issues. I'm not trying to be "cool", but the way I dress it is about the only way for me to carry. I was brought up to have my shirt tucked in, and a holster/gun in my waistband is very uncomfortable. I've never had an issue with anybody freaking out, just the opposite. Most people with questions or thanks.
The old adage that you will be a "target" is worn out. I would rather the bad guy know that I'm not the easy target they are looking for. They don't want somebody capable of fighting back.
Generally if you are wearing a dress shirt and a tie, people don't think much about you open carrying. Dress for success is the appropriate strategy, IMHO.
Are you advocating wearing a CCW Badge?!?