localgirl
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I was actually avoiding this post because I knew listening to the Philly recording would piss me off one way or another.
At the risk of being excommunicated by NavyLT, I tend to lean more towards the BC1 side on this one.
The thing is, Fiorino was within his rights, but you know he was poking the bear.
It's one thing to walk down the street in, say, a small town out West where we all have a certain degree of gun savvy, versus a really large city back East, where people are scared pantless of violence, and especially of gun violence.
Fiorino was inviting a conflict, which, I must admit, is sometimes the only way to bring attention to a matter. And the police responded (as they too often do, I am afraid) with emotion rather than professionalism, To make matters worse, Fiorino embarrassed them.
Boys, if there is one thing you all can't cotton to, it's being humiliated. No one likes to admit they screwed up, and if you're a cop, a job that requires a certain amount of ego, you can multiply that by two or three.
It may be legal to carry openly in Philly, but it's not necessarily smart.
Although, I will admit, if enough people followed suit, Fiorino's neighborhood would probably be a lot safer.
He also further aggravated the cops by recording them, which MAY be illegal in Pennsylvania. (Electronic communications there require two-party consent. It is not clear if that extends to the public venue).
So, in my opinion, however humble or not, both sides did a little pooch-screwing on this one.
The thing that really chaps my hide, though (I can say that, I live out West) is that even though Fiorino was being an instigator, the police department was OPENLY exposed, OPENLY confessed to having been incorrect, and then turned around and OPENLY said they planned to do exactly the same thing in future circumstances. It's one thing to make a mistake. It's quite another to plan to continue making the same mistake in the future.
I was actually avoiding this post because I knew listening to the Philly recording would piss me off one way or another.
At the risk of being excommunicated by NavyLT, I tend to lean more towards the BC1 side on this one.
The thing is, Fiorino was within his rights, but you know he was poking the bear.
It's one thing to walk down the street in, say, a small town out West where we all have a certain degree of gun savvy, versus a really large city back East, where people are scared pantless of violence, and especially of gun violence.
Fiorino was inviting a conflict, which, I must admit, is sometimes the only way to bring attention to a matter. And the police responded (as they too often do, I am afraid) with emotion rather than professionalism, To make matters worse, Fiorino embarrassed them.
Boys, if there is one thing you all can't cotton to, it's being humiliated. No one likes to admit they screwed up, and if you're a cop, a job that requires a certain amount of ego, you can multiply that by two or three.
It may be legal to carry openly in Philly, but it's not necessarily smart.
Although, I will admit, if enough people followed suit, Fiorino's neighborhood would probably be a lot safer.
He also further aggravated the cops by recording them, which MAY be illegal in Pennsylvania. (Electronic communications there require two-party consent. It is not clear if that extends to the public venue).
So, in my opinion, however humble or not, both sides did a little pooch-screwing on this one.
The thing that really chaps my hide, though (I can say that, I live out West) is that even though Fiorino was being an instigator, the police department was OPENLY exposed, OPENLY confessed to having been incorrect, and then turned around and OPENLY said they planned to do exactly the same thing in future circumstances. It's one thing to make a mistake. It's quite another to plan to continue making the same mistake in the future.
