Most Cops are Good?

[Axeanda45]

lf there were ANY good cops... most of the bad ones would already have been arrested.... The FACT that they are still out there killing us is PROOF enough that there arent anywhere near the good cops all you badgefluffers claim there are...

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[whodat2710]

And???

Must be a lecture point in the video past the same more, same more. Please dazzle me.

No lecture, no talking points, just an opinion of someone outside the forum that is pertinent to the discussion

 

[Saltheart Foamfollower]

lf there were ANY good cops... most of the bad ones would already have been arrested.... The FACT that they are still out there killing us is PROOF enough that there arent anywhere near the good cops all you badgefluffers claim there are...

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That's quite a leap.

 

[BluesStringer]

What whodat argues (ad nauseum) is "respect" is nothing more than obedience and submission to (hopefully) avoid expensive and possibly injurious encounters with power-drunk bullies, and I'd venture to say that's nearly always true in cases where you're not speeding or weaving in and out of your lane and/or traffic or actually drawing attention to yourself in other illegal ways. Who the heck "respects" a person or their position that is in the act of subjugating them under a constant implied threat of force?

Whodat just can't say the words right.

Blues

It is at this point that I'll ask you to stop trying to translate what I say because you think everyone else on the board is too stupid to read it. Your opinion of what I say is colored by your hatred of all things cop.

The opinion expressed above has much more to do with the proper use of the English language than what you think about any subject. Axe posted the definition of the word respect, and it can only fit within the meme you're promulgating by either misunderstanding, or purposely twisting the word's possible meanings. So no, I will not stop pointing out when you misuse words and then try to claim that most people are operating under that misused meaning.

Your hatred of the truth is what is clouding your ability to discuss this topic rationally. Nobody in their right mind "respects" someone or their position if they harass them when they're doing nothing wrong, or more to the point, illegal. You're trying to argue that it is out of respect that people pull over under that exact circumstance, and I'm saying, as have others, that you're just wrong. What is respectable about forced contacts with government agents under falsified premises? The implied threat of government force, up to and including death, is present the very second those lights go on, and you think people respect the person or their position when that threat is foisted on them for no reason at all? If you do, then you fall under the category of the "nobody in their right mind" that I mentioned above.

With all your chest-thumping about this, please answer one simple question. If you are driving down the road sure that you are obeying all laws and a cop flips on his blue lights, are you going to stop? Please enlighten us all with your wisdom as to why or why not, and how this differs from my opinion.

Of course I'm going to stop. Why? Because I don't want to be beaten or shot when they finally stop me or catch up to me the next day or whatever. How does that differ from your opinion that people who stop even when they're doing nothing wrong "respect" the power-drunk bullies lightin' 'em up? Really? To you, respect is synonymous with obedient or subjugated or fearful. The only way a government agent of any description earns respect from me, is when they don't act like a government agent. That goes for everyone from the cop on the street to his/her superiors to the local DA to the state AG and legislative and executive bodies all the way up to Supreme Court justices, Congress-critters and presidents. They all work against your interests as much as they work against mine. That you would think it "chest-thumping" or "hatred of all things cop" for me to recognize that truism and say it out loud at every opportunity, belies the notion that you know the first thing about respect, which was already exposed by your constant misuse of the word. Only the mind of a willing slave would respect the position of overseer, or of the people occupying that position, or of the masters that run the plantation. A slave may well fear the whip more than he hates the subjugation, but saying he "respects" the person wielding the whip is just stupid.

In your own words, pffft

Right back atcha, cupcake.

Blues

 

[billt]

You just don't want anyone to talk about it.

You can talk all you want. It doesn't change the astronomical odds against it ever happening to you. And the reason those odds are so astronomical in the first place, is because it doesn't happen often enough. Just people like yourself talking about it.

 

[Deanimator]

You can talk all you want. It doesn't change the astronomical odds against it ever happening to you. And the reason those odds are so astronomical in the first place, is because it doesn't happen often enough. Just people like yourself talking about it.

For Kathryn Johnston and Michael Pleasance, the odds were 100%.

 

[NavyLCDR]

It's not about the odds. It's about the consequences....

 

[billt]

For Kathryn Johnston and Michael Pleasance, the odds were 100%.

What are they for you?

 

[Deanimator]

What are they for you?

There's no way to know.

Avoiding ANY contact with police certainly cuts them down.

And even when I can't avoid contact with them, for more than a traffic stop, I won't speak to them without benefit of counsel.

They're not my friends, they're not there to "protect" me, and I act accordingly.

 

[billt]

There's no way to know.

Avoiding ANY contact with police certainly cuts them down.

And even when I can't avoid contact with them, for more than a traffic stop, I won't speak to them without benefit of counsel.

They're not my friends, they're not there to "protect" me, and I act accordingly.

Sounds like a plan. I doubt you'll be getting shot or killed by them anytime soon. Sleep well.

 

[whodat2710]

The opinion expressed above has much more to do with the proper use of the English language than what you think about any subject. Axe posted the definition of the word respect, and it can only fit within the meme you're promulgating by either misunderstanding, or purposely twisting the word's possible meanings. So no, I will not stop pointing out when you misuse words and then try to claim that most people are operating under that misused meaning...
Blues

re·spect
rəˈspekt/
noun
noun: respect

1.
a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.
"the director had a lot of respect for Douglas as an actor"
synonyms: esteem, regard, high opinion, admiration, reverence, deference, honor
"the respect due to a great artist"
antonyms: contempt
the state of being admired or respected.
"his first chance in over fifteen years to regain respect in the business"
due regard for the feelings, wishes, rights, or traditions of others.
plural noun: respects
"respect for human rights"
synonyms: due regard, politeness, courtesy, civility, deference

Wow, again you prove that once you have read enough to "prove" your point, you stop reading.
The word has many "possible meanings". The ones in red are the ones you are insisting that it must mean, when in fact it also means EXACTLY what I am talking about and has nothing to do with subservience, submission or relinquishing your rights to anyone.

 

[billt]

US Police Have Killed Over 5,000 Civilians Since 9/11

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https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=current+US+population

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Let's run with this..... Assuming the numbers are good. According to the article, cops killed 5,000 people in this country in the last 14 years. That comes to 357 people a year, over the last 14 years. Or less than one a day. Let's bump it up to an even one a day to keep things easier. The current United States population is 318,900,000. (read 318 million, 900 thousand). So... On any given day your odds of being killed by a cop.... Any cop, are less than 1 in 319 MILLION.

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Cause of Death Lifetime Odds

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Heart Disease 1-in-5

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Cancer 1-in-7

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Stroke 1-in-23

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Accidental Injury 1-in-36

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Motor Vehicle Accident 1-in-100

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Intentional Self-harm (suicide) 1-in-121

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Falling Down 1-in-246

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The Odds of Dying

 

[NavyLCDR]

There are a lot more unpleasant things that a bad cop can do to you in addition to shooting you.

 

[BluesStringer]

re·spect
rəˈspekt/
noun
noun: respect


Wow, again you prove that once you have read enough to "prove" your point, you stop reading.
The word has many "possible meanings". The ones in red are the ones you are insisting that it must mean, when in fact it also means EXACTLY what I am talking about and has nothing to do with subservience, submission or relinquishing your rights to anyone.

I guess I will have to quote myself then by repeating:

"Only the mind of a willing slave would respect the position of overseer, or of the people occupying that position, or of the masters that run the plantation. A slave may well fear the whip more than he hates the subjugation, but saying he "respects" the person wielding the whip is just stupid."

There are a lot more unpleasant things that a bad cop can do to you in addition to shooting you.

And everyone they shoot doesn't die either. Taking only that one-a-day calculation into consideration leaves a lot of room for bad things to happen to innocent people at the hands of this run amok government, doesn't it though?

In the founding era of this country, people who thought more highly of government than of the resisters of its tyranny were labeled collaborators. I still see it that way.

Blues

 

[Firefighterchen]

US Police Have Killed Over 5,000 Civilians Since 9/11

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https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=current+US+population

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Let's run with this..... Assuming the numbers are good. According to the article, cops killed 5,000 people in this country in the last 14 years. That comes to 357 people a year, over the last 14 years. Or less than one a day. Let's bump it up to an even one a day to keep things easier. The current United States population is 318,900,000. (read 318 million, 900 thousand). So... On any given day your odds of being killed by a cop.... Any cop, are less than 1 in 319 MILLION.

.

Cause of Death Lifetime Odds

.



Heart Disease 1-in-5

.


Cancer 1-in-7

.


Stroke 1-in-23

.


Accidental Injury 1-in-36

.


Motor Vehicle Accident 1-in-100

.

Intentional Self-harm (suicide) 1-in-121

.


Falling Down 1-in-246

.

The Odds of Dying

Are you comparing life time odds of death with daily odds of death?

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[Deanimator]

So... On any given day your odds of being killed by a cop.... Any cop, are less than 1 in 319 MILLION.

Kathryn Johnston's were 319,000,000/319,000,000.

 

[Deanimator]

It's not about the odds. It's about the consequences....

To some people, if there are no consequences for the cop, it's "no harm, no foul".

 

[billt]

Are you comparing life time odds of death with daily odds of death?

No matter how you compare death by cop, it's not even worth worrying about when you consider death by anything else.

 

[billt]

Kathryn Johnston's were 319,000,000/319,000,000.

As I said, whatever keeps you up at night.

 

[Axeanda45]

Looks like billt is 100% hunky-dorey as long as the cops dont kill him..(or you/me) everything else is fine.... steal my freedom (send me to jail) for some stupid law that is forbidden by the constitution? NO PROBLEM!!!! Steal my hard earned money for some asinine bull law that only serves to line the pockets of the usurpers? Fine with billt!!!!! just dont go killin people...., but even then, dont worry about it.... your odds are good....