I just received my Washington state Concealed Pistol license and went to the gun store to buy an XD-45. The clerk said I had to be a resident of Washington for 90 days before I could buy a handgun. I have never heard anything so stupid. As I understood the material I had access to, the 90 day residency was to apply for a CPL to be delivered in 30 days. Otherwise, it would be 60 days. The clerk a tthe store had told me as soon as I had my permit, I could come in and pick up my handgun. I cannot find anywhere in any meterial I have that says you have to live in Washington for 90 days prior to buying a handgun. What say you, folks?
One shop I talked to said it was a BATF regulation aobut the 90 day residency. I have been all over the United States, and have never heard of a residency requirement of 90 days to purchase a handgun. the only regulation or law that I know of is that you must be a resident of a state to purchase a handgun in that state.
With all due respect, why do you believe I would be covered by LEOSA? Being a former deputy sheriff really endows me with no rights or abilities others do not share. I am a citizen, albeit one who has received more training than the average person, even though I would give anything to attend the training at Front Sight Resorts. One shop I talked to said it was a BATF regulation aobut the 90 day residency. I have been all over the United States, and have never heard of a residency requirement of 90 days to purchase a handgun. the only regulation or law that I know of is that you must be a resident of a state to purchase a handgun in that state. I could not expect to go to Oregon, let's say, and buy a handgun. Afte all, I got a pawn shop along the Mexican border shut down when I was a jailer for an Arizona county. DPS had brought in three illegals, and each one of them had a cheap .38 special pistol, with consecutive serial numbers. they had the receipts in their property, and I notified one of our detectives, who brought in an ATF agent. I heard later the pawn shop that sold the illegals the guns had been raided and closed down for many illegal sales. I have our lease agreement from our landlord that establishes my residency dating from August 1 instead of my Driver's License, dating from August 28, so the first week in November, I can pick up my new XD-45. Thank you for your reply.
fftopic:On a side note, I was under the impression that the states of Washington, Oregon, and California were still holding out on issuing CCWs. I'm glad to hear that this may have changed. We plan on moving to the Pacific Northwest in the next couple of years, by then maybe they will have reciprocity with Nevada and we might not have to pay to take the class again for a few years at least, that is, if they honor Nevada's CCWs.
I have our lease agreement from our landlord that establishes my residency dating from August 1 instead of my Driver's License......
Either you were a commissioned LEO or your weren't. A jailer or corrections officer is not a commissioned LEO. You also mentioned that you were required to take the AZ CCW class to get your permit. Well, an AZ POST certified LEO with a decade of experience is exempt from the AZ CCW training requirement. If you're not a seasoned LEO that is exempt from taking the CCW class from where you served as a LEO or qualify for the LEOSA then you never were a LEO in my opinion. Since you acknowledged that you were a jailer you never had enforcement powers in any State and thus never a LEO.I was proud to serve the people of my county, but I got into police work at an age when others were retiring. I had RK to make my eyeglasses lighter and make me able to function better in a fight, and ended up with nightblindness and 'stars'around lights at night. I was a jail officer when I discovered the pistols in the inmate property locker when I reported to work. This was a standard routine with me, to familiarize me with who was in our jail, what proerty they had, etc. The jailer I relieved couldn't have cared less, it was just a job to him, and I wanted to be the best. Having my lease agreement was a suggestion of one of the clerks, as one store wanted to use the issue date on my DL for residency, and my wife and I got our licenses almost a month after we moved. The clerk said I should get a copy of my lease, to show that I had rented our home on the first of August instead of the 28th. Makes sense to me. I did not tell them I moved to Washington on the 28th of August, they got that off my DL, and what I said didn't mean beans to them. I am thrilled to have found usacarry.com, and enjoy the byplay with all of you. However, if you keep implying that I am prevaricating, then I shall simply talk to others and ignore you. I would much rather be a friend than an adversary. How about it? As far as my feelings about Front Sight, I am positive their training far surpasses the training I got in the academy and through our department. I am going by the statements of those who have taken one or more of Front Sight's classes. Like hte former Marine whose two sons are going to be deployed to Iraq, and he sent them to Front Sight. I am convinced that Front Sight has the best training available, if you disagree, that is your privilege.
It's rare that someone is in two branches of public safety; law enforcement and fire fighting. Many LEOs cannot pass the physical tests to be a fire fighter. If I recall correctly AZ had no civilian CCW until the late 90s even for honorably retired LEOs.You probably could get an apartment in Arizona right away, and no one would even question you at a gun store. However, there would be a 5 day wait for a handgun, unless you had an Arizona CCW permit, in which case, you buy the gun and take it home that day. I started witht he Pinal County Sheriff's Dept in 1975 as a dispatcher, then transferred into the jail when we had a mass resignation by jail officers. I becamse a reserve deputy, going through the academy of 480 hours.. I served three six-month terms as a probationary deputy in Civil Dicision, the became a deputy in District two, the largest district in our county, I was promoted to corporal, and supervised the seven deputies in our district. I was the line supervisor and supervised the district of 986 sq. miles. Our sergeant was the admin supervisor and I was the line supervisor. I decided to have RK to reduce the weight of my eyeglasses, and had to leave the department and the Arizona City Fire Dept, due to the vision problems I had after the surgery. A buck and a half and a copy of my commission card mght have bought me a cup of coffee. I just read about the problems at Front Sight, and was shocked. I only have a little over a week and I can get my pistol. Does that answer your questions?
Was he doing both simultaneously? Typically the demands of one branch of public safety require you to leave the other. Fire fighting and law enforcement are both physically demanding. I find it highly doubtful that someone could do full time shifts in both branches of public safety simultaneously. Also keep in mind that public safety has mandatory overtime for both civilian and commissioned employees. Leaving one branch for the other is no big deal, but working both?Officer Murphy, the Sheriff's Deputy we talked about on here a few weeks ago who was shot at the Terrible's RV Lakeside complex in Pahrump, Nevada, began his public service as a firefighter. You are correct, it's rare, but those who do both are in really good physical condition because of it. I believe that it took Officer Murphy very little time to recover from him wounds because he IS in such good physical condition.:yes4:
A buck and a half and a copy of my commission card mght have bought me a cup of coffee. ..... Does that answer your questions?
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