Do Christians Smoke Weed?

[UrsusMedius]

The only action required of a professed follower of Jesus Christ is the acknowledgment of who He is and accepting Him as your Lord (absolute ruler) & savior. There are no actions or change in behavior that a human being can perform to earn salvation; it can only be accepted as a favor from Christ in return for that acknowledgement and acceptance.

In respect and gratitude for that favor, a Christ follower does their level best to live the way Jesus told us to. We will fail (sin) now and again, but when it happens we acknowledge that we screwed up and again do our level best not to let it happen again (that's called repentance)

As for smoking dope, getting drunk, etc.; those are means of escaping the pressures of life. Abuse of those escapes is sinful because 1) it can cause physical or mental damage and 2) it means that we are relying on artificial means to escape our troubles instead of trusting in God's strength to carry us through.

As for the child molester question; a true follower of Jesus Christ would be in touch enough with what Christ expects of them to recognize the sickness within themselves and seek help.

This isn't what I intended for my first post I'm this forum. I suppose in the end it is actually a more important subject than what my edc is or what's my favorite holster.

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[UrsusMedius]

The only action required of a professed follower of Jesus Christ is the acknowledgment of who He is and accepting Him as your Lord (absolute ruler) & savior. There are no actions or change in behavior that a human being can perform to earn salvation; it can only be accepted as a favor from Christ in return for that acknowledgement and acceptance.

In respect and gratitude for that favor, a Christ follower does their level best to live the way Jesus told us to. We will fail (sin) now and again, but when it happens we acknowledge that we screwed up and again do our level best not to let it happen again (that's called repentance)

As for smoking dope, getting drunk, etc.; those are means of escaping the pressures of life. Abuse of those escapes is sinful because 1) it can cause physical or mental damage and 2) it means that we are relying on artificial means to escape our troubles instead of trusting in God's strength to carry us through.

As for the child molester question; a true follower of Jesus Christ would be in touch enough with what Christ expects of them to recognize the sickness within themselves and seek help.

This isn't what I intended for my first post I'm this forum. I suppose in the end it is actually a more important subject than what my edc is or what's my favorite holster.

Sent while walking the narrow road.

Sent while walking the narrow road.

 

[tcox4freedom]

The only action required of a professed follower of Jesus Christ is the acknowledgment of who He is and accepting Him as your Lord (absolute ruler) & savior. There are no actions or change in behavior that a human being can perform to earn salvation; it can only be accepted as a favor from Christ in return for that acknowledgement and acceptance.

In respect and gratitude for that favor, a Christ follower does their level best to live the way Jesus told us to. We will fail (sin) now and again, but when it happens we acknowledge that we screwed up and again do our level best not to let it happen again (that's called repentance)

As for smoking dope, getting drunk, etc.; those are means of escaping the pressures of life. Abuse of those escapes is sinful because 1) it can cause physical or mental damage and 2) it means that we are relying on artificial means to escape our troubles instead of trusting in God's strength to carry us through.

As for the child molester question; a true follower of Jesus Christ would be in touch enough with what Christ expects of them to recognize the sickness within themselves and seek help.

This isn't what I intended for my first post I'm this forum. I suppose in the end it is actually a more important subject than what my edc is or what's my favorite holster.

Sent while walking the narrow road.

Amen and welcome to the forum!


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[Johnny Dollar]

So a full on Christian that molests a child is not as bad as a non Christian,is what your saying right?

Which leads us back to my question could you be a Christian and do that?

 

[UrsusMedius]

Which leads us back to my question could you be a Christian and do that?

Is it OK for a Christian to commit a sin ( molest a child) ? No. If they do give in to temptation (or fail to overcome the compulsion of their sickness) they need to repent (acknowledge that what they did is wrong and do whatever it takes to prevent it from happening again). If they truly repent, then Christ's sacrifice covers them. They still however need to pay the earthly price for their crime.

This is a hard pill for most people to swallow; that someone that commits a crime that grievous can still gain salvation. The thing is that in God's eyes, all sin is equally disgusting; there's no scale of severity. That is why it's impossible to earn our way into heaven, because everyone is going to foul up in some way eventually.

No it doesn't make sense to us and seems unfair, but we think in human terms.

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[UrsusMedius]

Amen and welcome to the forum!


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Thanks!

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[JimTh]

Ok let me say it this way I don't understand the idea I'm a republican I don't vote for obama. I'm a Christan I don't put an illegal drug in my body. I don't get the concept It's like being a communist capitalist to me

Communism can never be capitalism. Christians as, all humans, are born into a state of sin. Some of you folks think you never commit a sin or that what you do do is not sinful because you don't believe in GOD. This reply is not intended for your sensitive eyes and mind! That being said, no human is perfect...ever! Now, although the Bible does address the concept of being a sinner and being saved simultaneously, it also states that because you will never be pure in human form, that in no way provides you a carte blanche card to do what ever you want. God does turn people over to their sins...that is the risk you would take if you use your carte blanche card.

 

[BluesStringer]

I don't get the notion that partaking of mind-altering substances is, in and of itself, a sin. Jesus' first miracle was to turn water to wine (John 2:1-11), and drinking wine in church is symbolic of drinking the blood of Christ. There is Biblical justification for concluding that being a drunkard is a sin, but in moderation, finding such justification would be difficult at best.

Except for the attendees at the wedding where Jesus first turned water to wine, everyone since has had to actively go through a willful process to make it. Weed can be consumed (smoked or ingested) by simply stumbling upon it growing naturally and harvesting it with no further processing involved. Where is the sin in that? What Biblical restriction makes it so?

This sounds to me like some modern confusion between man's law and God's law. I realize there are denominations that consider the consumption of any mind-altering substances to be a sinful act, even to include coffee or tea (caffeine) or tobacco, but there are many more that don't. I have a feeling that the basis of the assertion of pot-smoking being a sin might be Romans 13, but I would find that assertion to be absolutely ridiculous. If pot-smoking is a sin, it's because it's a sin against God, not because another man (or government) says it's merely illegal in certain jurisdictions around the world.

For the record, I don't drink, smoke weed or take any other drugs. I have in my life, but it's been many years, and nothing I've said here could be construed as being supportive of folks altering their consciousness in any way. I just don't find any Biblical conflict between being a Christian and smoking weed, and even if there were a conflict, it is overcome by simply stopping the behavior and asking (sincerely) for forgiveness.

The question itself is indicative of someone with multiple biases and bigotries expressed as judgmentalism by one human towards others, which itself goes against the Word of God (Matthew 7:1-5).

Blues

 

[UrsusMedius]

Moderate use if a calmative substance that had no I'll effects (at that dosage) isn't proscribed anywhere in the Bible that I can remember. Abuse, however, is sinful since it can cause us to act irresponsibility or can damage our bodies. Otherwise mentally healthy people are always accountable for their actions; being hammered or stoned is no excuse.

Denominations that teach abstinence from alcohol, etc. Are operating under the axiom that "if you don't use, you can't abuse". That works for them. If that chafes you, change to a different (but still Bible believing) denomination .



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[Johnny Dollar]

The question itself is indicative of someone with multiple biases and bigotries expressed as judgmentalism by one human towards others, which itself goes against the Word of God (Matthew 7:1-5).

Blues

Pot/ kettle?

 

[Johnny Dollar]

I could see someone slipping and making a mistake but to me I can't see an on going lifestyle of ingesting a mind altering substance and claiming to follow Jesus. I'm not talking about someone who is perscribed it for pain I'm talking about someone who is just gettign high just to get high

 

[UrsusMedius]

I could see someone slipping and making a mistake but to me I can't see an on going lifestyle of ingesting a mind altering substance and claiming to follow Jesus. I'm not talking about someone who is perscribed it for pain I'm talking about someone who is just gettign high just to get high

Since smoking weed is illegal in the U.S., I have to agree. It's not the moderate use that is a problem (no worse than the occasional beer) but the disrespect for the law of the land.

Even if using weed was legal here, abusing it would also be sinful as it can damage the body and mind. Also, dependency on any drug to avoid dealing with reality is saying that we don't believe that God will help get us through anything life throws at us.

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[BC1]

Since smoking weed is illegal in the U.S., I have to agree. It's not the moderate use that is a problem (no worse than the occasional beer) but the disrespect for the law of the land.

Even if using weed was legal here, abusing it would also be sinful as it can damage the body and mind. Also, dependency on any drug to avoid dealing with reality is saying that we don't believe that God will help get us through anything life throws at us.

Sent while walking the narrow road.

I'm not sure I would go as far as to say people smoke weed to escape reality. Sounds like an ad from the 1960's. While not legal it is decriminalized in many areas. If ingesting things that can damage the body is sinful we better not cook that steak for dinner.

 

[farsidefan1]

Nope I'm still not buyin' it. I know that if I were ever to be caught with marijuana I would lose my right to own a gun so I don't use marijuana. So A christian can't put down marijuana to keep from going to Hell? It makes no sense to me. Call me a troll all you want my mind simply will not grasp that concept

1-No worries, I'm not selling. 2-The fact that you can't grasp it doesn't bother me at all. 3- So you require all Christians to be perfect? Yes, with that I'll do as you ask and call you a troll. Toodles, I won't be seeing you around anymore as you managed to find my ignore limit ( it sits next to my definition of a troll). Have a nice day.

 

[UrsusMedius]

I'm not sure I would go as far as to say people smoke weed to escape reality. Sounds like an ad from the 1960's. While not legal it is decriminalized in many areas. If ingesting things that can damage the body is sinful we better not cook that steak for dinner.

I don't mean escape as in tripping/hallucinating, but as in altering one's mood to forget about troubles, de-stress, etc. People have beer or two, or watch TV, etc. in order to relax and manage stress. That's healthy behavior unless it turns into a dependency; instead of taking a break from our troubles we go on an extended vacation without buying a return ticket.

Steak is food ... but then again,people fall into gluttony. God supplied us with a world of stuff for us to enjoy, but our sin nature makes us think up ways to abuse it.

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[mwhals]

A true Christian, which is one saved by Jesus Christ, has no desire to intentionally sin or defile the body with drugs.


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[wolf_fire]

Johnny,

I feel that you are baiting us to say either "yes, smoking pot is a sin" or "no, smoking pot is not a sin". Well here's the real deal, the Bible doesn't mention specifically marijuana. However, it does speak to the hearts and desires of man. If you make anything your god before the true God, then it is a sin. If you make your pot smoking more important that your love and desire to follow Jesus, then it is a sin.

I'm so reminded of Romans 6:1-4, What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

You see, Jesus died for our transgressions. He has already paid for every sin that we have committed, are committing and will commit and taken it to the grave and then beaten death by being resurrected. Therefore, our faith in Him is due to this overwhelming completely undeserved gift of grace he has given us. By sinning more, doesn't make his gift better, it belittles it and shows us how little faith we have.

So your pot question, if you are smoking pot and giving more of yourself to it than you are to serving the Lord, than yes, it is a sin. If this is not what you are doing, then no it is not a sin.

 

[Firefighterchen]

I could see someone slipping and making a mistake but to me I can't see an on going lifestyle of ingesting a mind altering substance and claiming to follow Jesus. I'm not talking about someone who is perscribed it for pain I'm talking about someone who is just gettign high just to get high

Can Christians smoke cigarettes or cigars? Drink alcohol or caffeine? And still follow Jesus?

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[SR9]

Christians are guilty of every sin.

Sounds like you expect an arguement.

Of course we are. Everyone sins. It's just that Christians repent of their sins (repent means change of ways) and ask for forgiveness. If you think you can't go to church or be a Christian because you are a sinner, you are absolutely wrong.

3 things you need to learn: 1.God loves you, (yes, even you).
2.God is for you (not against you)
3.God is in control( If you think you are, try this)

Hold your breath, and refuse to breath, God wants you to breath and you will. If you answer this comment you are still aliveand breathing and God has given you continued life. If you don't answer, it is evident you are still holding your breath or are dead. Well. I'm waiting? But I'm betting on God.

Why people think that if they are sinners they are not good enough to go to church is beyond me. Every person in church has sinned, including the Pastor.
Be a man and go to church, any church, this Sunday

 

[BluesStringer]

Pot/ kettle?

I am opinionated, no doubt about that. I hardly think that holding a negative opinion about others' opinions is analogous to posting drivel about how going against your opinions about smoking weed is a sin against God.

So no, I'm opinionated and you're judgmental, and even in presenting your judgment about Christians who partake in pot, you lay no Biblical foundation whatsoever to back up that what you're judging has already been judged by God to be what you claim it is. I (the pot) am nothing like you (the kettle) in the context you assert above.

Blues