Do Christians Smoke Weed?

[mwhals]

I believe a Christian can drink alcohol, although I choose not to drink it. What the Bible says is to not be drunken. It is a sin to drink to the point of being drunk. Smoking Marijuana is likened to being drunken. I believe the intent is to not lose your inhibitions, which will lead to sin.

We are not to adorn our bodies and are to treat them as a temple of the Lord. Doing anything to our bodies that harm it is violating the temple of God if you have accepted Jesus into your heart.

A Christian is to strive to be Christ like. This alone should make one not want to partake in drugs and alcohol.


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[Firefighterchen]

I believe a Christian can drink alcohol, although I choose not to drink it. What the Bible says is to not be drunken. It is a sin to drink to the point of being drunk. Smoking Marijuana is likened to being drunken. I believe the intent is to not lose your inhibitions, which will lead to sin.

We are not to adorn our bodies and are to treat them as a temple of the Lord. Doing anything to our bodies that harm it is violating the temple of God if you have accepted Jesus into your heart.

A Christian is to strive to be Christ like. This alone should make one not want to partake in drugs and alcohol.


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Does Christ not drink wine? Does one joint equal being drunk?

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[Johnny Dollar]

Can Christians smoke cigarettes or cigars? Drink alcohol or caffeine? And still follow Jesus?

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If I could answer that I wouldn't be asking this question. You can get hooked on nicotine and then have to quite after you become a Christian but why would you START smoking after you became one?

Alcohol isn't the same as weed I can have A beer and it has no noticable effect on my brain I can't smoke one hit of weed (unless it's incredebly bad dope) and say the same.

Weed takes away your control of your mind and IMO allows demons to get into your head same as being drunk. In my mind (which ain't necessarily God's mind) that is the line you can't come back from. I could see being hooked on weed and becoming a Christian and having to quit but I can't see being a Christian already and deciding to start smoking weed. In my mind this is like trying to put myself in an anti's head when I don't even understand how their brain works

 

[UrsusMedius]

Does Christ not drink wine? Does one joint equal being drunk?

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Christ drank wine. Red wine was known even then to aid in digestion. Since He was poor, He probably drank new wine which was weakly fermented (if at all). In any case, He didn't need a buzz to decompress, so He probably would have no use for hemp other than to make rope or clothing.


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[mwhals]

Does Christ not drink wine? Does one joint equal being drunk?

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Jesus made wine! I never said He didn't drink wine. I said being drunken is the sin.

One must let the Holy Ghost influence them. I have no use or desire to smoke anything.


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[Firefighterchen]

Jesus made wine! I never said He didn't drink wine. I said being drunken is the sin.

One must let the Holy Ghost influence them. I have no use or desire to smoke anything.


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A Christian is to strive to be Christ like. This alone should make one not want to partake in drugs and alcohol.


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This was the portion of your reply I was asking about.

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[tcox4freedom]

Jesus made wine! I never said He didn't drink wine. I said being drunken is the sin.

One must let the Holy Ghost influence them. I have no use or desire to smoke anything.


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Actually, there is no record in scripture of Jesus drinking wine. He was just a boy when He performed the miracle of turning water into wine. But, scripture is clear about drunkenness and other sins of carnality.

One scripture that may be relevant to this discussion was Paul's instruction to Timothy.

1 Timothy 5:23 (NKJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach's sake and your frequent infirmities.

But, it is also important to understand this command was NOT addressed to everybody. It was only addressed to Timothy because of some health issues he had. Like a lot of other things in scripture, drinking of wine and even eating of food can become sin that may put a believer into the bondage of SIN if done in excess.


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One thing we can do is look at other writings that are considered wise & holy. However, not inspired of the Holy Spirit for the inclusion in the cannon of scripture.

Sirach 38:4 (KJVApocrypha)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]The Lord hath created medicines out of the earth; and he that is wise will not abhor them.

There are also several mentions of medicinal herbs throughout all of scripture. So, I guess one can use scripture to support the use of medical marijuana and even other "NATURALLY" grown herbs & plants that have certain medicinal qualities.

HOWEVER!!!!

When man illegally manufacturers drugs or adds unnatural chemicals to God's creation, then the drug/herb moves from a natural or God given remedy to one that is based in witchcraft. (Which is SIN!)

If we take another look at the contest of the above quote. We can also see the biblical & God ordained "parameters" for the usage of natural herbs & plants for medicine.

Sirach 38:1-14 (KJVApocrypha)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Honour a physician with the honour due unto him for the uses which ye may have of him: for the Lord hath created him.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For of the most High cometh healing, and he shall receive honour of the king.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]The skill of the physician shall lift up his head: and in the sight of great men he shall be in admiration.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]The Lord hath created medicines out of the earth; and he that is wise will not abhor them.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Was not the water made sweet with wood, that the virtue thereof might be known?
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And he hath given men skill, that he might be honoured in his marvellous works.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]With such doth he heal men, and taketh away their pains.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Of such doth the apothecary make a confection; and of his works there is no end; and from him is peace over all the earth,
[SUP]9 [/SUP]My son, in thy sickness be not negligent: but pray unto the Lord, and he will make thee whole.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Leave off from sin, and order thine hands aright, and cleanse thy heart from all wickedness.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Give a sweet savour, and a memorial of fine flour; and make a fat offering, as not being.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Then give place to the physician, for the Lord hath created him: let him not go from thee, for thou hast need of him.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]There is a time when in their hands there is good success.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For they shall also pray unto the Lord, that he would prosper that, which they give for ease and remedy to prolong life.

It is clear that RX herbs & remedies are fine for the most part. So, I would think medical marijuana would fall under this standard. I also believe that legally manufactured vitamins & herbal supplements are also spiritually acceptable. However, just illegally growing or manufacturing ANY drug for reasons of vanity (getting high or illegal selling/dealing for profit) falls into the category of SIN!



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[BC1]

I don't mean escape as in tripping/hallucinating, but as in altering one's mood to forget about troubles, de-stress, etc. People have beer or two, or watch TV, etc. in order to relax and manage stress. That's healthy behavior unless it turns into a dependency; instead of taking a break from our troubles we go on an extended vacation without buying a return ticket.

Steak is food ... but then again,people fall into gluttony. God supplied us with a world of stuff for us to enjoy, but our sin nature makes us think up ways to abuse it.

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Consider that marijuana is significantly less dangerous than alcohol. Alcohol is at the root of many domestic violence incidents. I watch Cops Reloaded and get a good laugh out of the drunken low-life's. While marijuana tends to make people mellow, alcohol can make people unpredictable. I'm one if them; precisely why I drink no more than two beers. One beer I laugh. Two beers I'm telling jokes. Three bears and I buy the stranger next to me a beer while arguing in favor of astro turf. Four beers and I knock the guy off his barstool for arguing against astro turf. And, as you said, excess can destroy people and families. Still, it's legal. Consider a cigarette... the only product made that when used as intended results in your death.

 

[BC1]

Actually, there is no record in scripture of Jesus drinking wine. He was just a boy when He performed the miracle of turning water into wine. But, scripture is clear about drunkenness and other sins of carnality.

One scripture that may be relevant to this discussion was Paul's instruction to Timothy.



But, it is also important to understand this command was NOT addressed to everybody. It was only addressed to Timothy because of some health issues he had. Like a lot of other things in scripture, drinking of wine and even eating of food can become sin that may put a believer into the bondage of SIN if done in excess.


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One thing we can do is look at other writings that are considered wise & holy. However, not inspired of the Holy Spirit for the inclusion in the cannon of scripture.



There are also several mentions of medicinal herbs throughout all of scripture. So, I guess one can use scripture to support the use of medical marijuana and even other "NATURALLY" grown herbs & plants that have certain medicinal qualities.

HOWEVER!!!!

When man illegally manufacturers drugs or adds unnatural chemicals to God's creation, then the drug/herb moves from a natural or God given remedy to one that is based in witchcraft. (Which is SIN!)

If we take another look at the contest of the above quote. We can also see the biblical & God ordained "parameters" for the usage of natural herbs & plants for medicine.



It is clear that RX herbs & remedies are fine for the most part. So, I would think medical marijuana would fall under this standard. I also believe that legally manufactured vitamins & herbal supplements are also spiritually acceptable. However, just illegally growing or manufacturing ANY drug for reasons of vanity (getting high or illegal selling/dealing for profit) falls into the category of SIN!



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Good post.

 

[Johnny Dollar]

I don't think you can create equivalence between Marijuana and Alcohol. You can ingest a serving of alcohol and not be impaired, I don’t think the same is true of Marijuana

 

[cjohnson44546]

So once I'm saved I can do what ever I want?

yes... God gives you free will to do anything you want.

The problem is though... are you saved? Just because you give lip service to God, or go to church or claim to be a Christian... or even really believe you are saved, doesn't mean its true. Someone with a true relationship with Jesus wouldn't want to sin, even if they can.

Ok let me say it this way I don't understand the idea I'm a republican I don't vote for obama. I'm a Christan I don't put an illegal drug in my body. I don't get the concept It's like being a communist capitalist to me

This is between you and Jesus. If it affects you in a way that comes between you and Jesus, then its really a bad idea. Not eveyone is the same, or affected the same way.

Drugs of any kind (including RX), can be a very dangerous and bad thing. But, if a person has not achieved the level of faith to receive healing, I don't thing God would punish someone that sought treatment from a doctor that may prescribe any medication. But, knowing that God has made provision to meet a persons every need & pleasure in Him through Jesus, why would anyone want to take drugs or do somethings they did before they found Christ?
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there are no such things as levels of faith... you don't get to some level and receive healing. Everything that will be done is God's will. Asking for or praying for something, no matter how much you believe, have faith, or love, or anything else will not change the fact that anything God does is God's will. Praying to be cured of a disease, and not being cured, has nothing to do with your faith. Just trust in God and abide by his will. Ask for something, sure... don't expect it, because you do not understand God's will.

Nope I'm still not buyin' it. I know that if I were ever to be caught with marijuana I would lose my right to own a gun so I don't use marijuana. So A christian can't put down marijuana to keep from going to Hell? It makes no sense to me. Call me a troll all you want my mind simply will not grasp that concept

A true Christian (not just claimed to be) does not have to worry about going to Hell, so the argument doesn't hold weight. Christians are sinners, and they mess up. They can even mess up time and time again for many years... it doesn't make them less Christian, it just makes them human and sinners... like every other Christian.

 

[BC1]

I don't think you can create equivalence between Marijuana and Alcohol. You can ingest a serving of alcohol and not be impaired, I don’t think the same is true of Marijuana

Quite the opposite. A single drink can slightly impair a 100 pound woman. I'm 6'2" / 195 pounds and three drinks will cause me to be unruly. The pot generation was very docile.

 

[Johnny Dollar]

Quite the opposite. A single drink can slightly impair a 100 pound woman. I'm 6'2" / 195 pounds and three drinks will cause me to be unruly. The pot generation was very docile.

I said impaired not unruly would you trust someone who smoked 1 joint with a gun?

 

[GlassWolf]

Do Christians smoke weed?

I have a "friend" who says she's Christian but smokes dope (just not in Muskogee). Can you be a Christian and smoke weed

You're asking if you can be a Christian and still sin. The answer to this seems pretty self-evident to me on this one.

 

[Johnny Dollar]

You're asking if you can be a Christian and still sin. The answer to this seems pretty self-evident to me on this one.

I guess ultimately you're right

 

[tcox4freedom]

yes... God gives you free will to do anything you want.

The problem is though... are you saved? Just because you give lip service to God, or go to church or claim to be a Christian... or even really believe you are saved, doesn't mean its true. Someone with a true relationship with Jesus wouldn't want to sin, even if they can.


This is between you and Jesus. If it affects you in a way that comes between you and Jesus, then its really a bad idea. Not eveyone is the same, or affected the same way.



there are no such things as levels of faith... you don't get to some level and receive healing. Everything that will be done is God's will. Asking for or praying for something, no matter how much you believe, have faith, or love, or anything else will not change the fact that anything God does is God's will. Praying to be cured of a disease, and not being cured, has nothing to do with your faith. Just trust in God and abide by his will. Ask for something, sure... don't expect it, because you do not understand God's will.


A true Christian (not just claimed to be) does not have to worry about going to Hell, so the argument doesn't hold weight. Christians are sinners, and they mess up. They can even mess up time and time again for many years... it doesn't make them less Christian, it just makes them human and sinners... like every other Christian.

Good post for the most part. I do suggest a little more study on Faith. We are each given a measure of faith that calls us to salvation. But, scripture is pretty clear that Christians have different measures of faith.

Philippians 3:13-16 (NKJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead,
[SUP]14 [/SUP]I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Therefore let us, as many as are mature, have this mind; and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal even this to you.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Nevertheless, to the degree that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us be of the same mind.

This is just one example. But, scripture does speak of the immature and the mature in Faith. I won't jack this thread. But, not everything that happens is the will of God. We can discuss that in another thread if you want to. The truth is "sin" will impede the will of God for a persons life. But, it will NOT stop the ultimate plan of God.

If you would like you can start another thread to discuss God's perfect will and His permissive will. Ultimately, the complete will of God will be realized despite man's sin and rebellion against it though.


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[BC1]

I said impaired not unruly would you trust someone who smoked 1 joint with a gun?

Guns and impairment don't mix. I didn't think we were talking about impaired gun possession. I don't trust a lot of straight people with a gun. Been a pistol instructor for a while and I've seen some pretty bad handling skills from normal, sober people. But no, I wouldn't trust anyone who drank or puffed with a gun. No sir.
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I don't believe someone who puffs weed is committing a sin.

 

[Johnny Dollar]

I don't believe someone who puffs weed is committing a sin.

I think it is because you can't do it with out being impaired but ultimately it's not your decision or mine it's God's

 

[Kennydale]

I'm Jewish and I proudly smoke herring

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[influencer]

As was previously stated, being a Christian does not mean to live without sin. It means to try to live without sin. We all sin, every day.

We are imperfect. Whether smoking weed is a sin is debatable, but do realize it is considered illegal by our government. Heroin was a medicine quite liberally prescribed until the harmful effects were discovered, then it was outlawed. It doesn't necessarily mean everyone that used it are now in hell, just that our government said we can't use it. But a more refined version is still used in the medical field, morphine.

I believe, and I'm no authority on religion, that drinking/smoking/whatever becomes a sin when you live FOR it. I believe its worse to be an alcoholic than to drink and get drunk occassionally, for when your an alcoholic you are not living for Christ, you are living for your alcohol. The same goes for weed, I think its not a damning action unless you live for that next toke.

Again, just my opinion. As Christians we are suppose to live for Christ, we will never be like Christ.