U say: "So how many of you would give up your CCW license if a law passed tomorrow that you had to have a CCW badge." Simple, I would glady swap a poorly-made card-stock WA state CC permit, which is easy to forge, damage, fuzz-out, a mere 2" x 3" back & white bit of card, easy to trash even if it gets wet or bent. If the badge was issued to me, with my mug shot and bar-coded, making it a lot harder to fudge
I agree with that. If the UN were serious about the Declaration on Human Rights, they would have put the right to bear arms in there. We all have that right by virtue of existence.We all have an innate right to defense; to that purpose the Bill of Rights recognizes our 'Right to Keep and Bear Arms.'
U say: "So how many of you would give up your CCW license if a law passed tomorrow that you had to have a CCW badge." Simple, I would glady swap a poorly-made card-stock WA state CC permit, which is easy to forge, damage, fuzz-out, a mere 2" x 3" back & white bit of card, easy to trash even if it gets wet or bent. If the badge was issued to me, with my mug shot and bar-coded, making it a lot harder to fudge and it was included in the fee I had to pay for the CC process, would fit into my bill-fold hidden away from ADVERTISING the fact that I am carrying something that can kill U, then I would gladly make the trade-out, but still not flash the badge just like I don't flash my piece. Is semantics or tunnel vision your premise, or R U just bored and posted a no-brainer (ain't ever going to happen) onto USA-Carry?
"Some security guards even have badges." Well that's an astute observation, and many have the same shooters, cuffs, batons, spray-defense weapons, radios, cell-phones, etc. (and many of the powers of any LEO) to use lawful force to protect what they get paid for specific duties to protect, not protecting the general public, two entirely different gigs. I would expect to see an I.D. of clear and indisputable correctness displayed to me their symbols of authority to halt me as I was climbing the wall of the local Wal-mart @ 2am with an empty duffle-bag or 3 and their security don't take: "U got no badges so bugger-off!" for an answer. A simple 'Security' shirt/bomber jacket I.D.'s them just fine, and they are in the business of showing off the fact that they can do U harm if you do stupid stuff, we R not and don't get paid for doing that. They may not even need a badge, just as IMHO we CC permit carrying citizens don't.
You go on to say: "Sorry folks but these answers are not about badges but more like a badge with a gun.. " No the issue is not about badges for CC weapons carry types, it is about the fact that online and in most big towns/cities you can buy any current local LEO/FBI/DEA/INS, etc, whole make-up, make-overs which allows you to con most of the public into trusting you, or is that a hard concept for you to fathom? Check your headspace & timing as your M2 is malfunctioning trooper!
Does that mean security guards are pretending to be cops because they wear the exact same uniforms as cops just different patches. Some security guards even have badges. I will use any piece of hardware it takes to save my life. I do not have a badge but when I see answers like you are pretending to be a cop, that is plain BS. Some mayor's has a badges, non police / non security government officials have badges. A lot of people have badges that are not police.
So how many of you would give up your CCW license if a law passed tomorrow that you had to have a CCW badge.
Sorry folks but these answers are not about badges but more like a badge with a gun.. One or the other is fine but both together automatically screams cop. That is stereotyping.
Firemen, PIs, All sworn but not gun carring Law enforcement Have badges.IRS FBI CIA Mail Inspectors Code inforcement dog catchers Why not armed citizens? If it could slow down a bad situation. Hell bad guys scream police when crashing into homes to slow down fire.
We agree to disagree, fine, that's what forums R for, just points of view, as different as the pistol U chose or the woman U marry. If my words, concepts, avitar or 'Dead President' quote offend you, sign-in, go to Link Removed , left column under 'Networking' select 'Contacts & Friends' go to 'Edit Ignore List':
Link Removed (the fast way to get there) choose 'Add a Member to Your List'... and type in Canis-Lupus to your ignore list. Now you will not see my words, tales, G2, SITREP's, rants, opinions, jokes and general BS, or all those HMTL colors I love to use will NEVER be displayed any time you are on USA Carry to offend or upset you. That's called: 'Kill-filing' in USENET terms, normally used for X-posting obnoxious, '"over-quoting"', foul-mothed hated ab-users, Trolls, :taz: flamers and $pammers, but Landor I did think you and the 'badges deal' was getting out of hand & intransigent, and apparently 95% of the replies to that thread are anti-CC-badge, to include the good fella who runs this web-site! So silence me and start k/f-ing all those who don't fit in with your take on everything! After a while it gets lonely when you log-on and see no posts or replies to any you may have posted here.
Save your sorrow Buster for the unlucky CC person who gets dropped by a LEO reaching for his badge, but they thought he was reaching for something MUCH more dangerous than a bit of shiny metal to prove he was a good law-abiding citizen! Queen to King's rook 5, check!
I don't have anyone on my ignore list, got me about 6 buddies who post great stuff, and I will not add you to my ignore list. I prefer to read the 24 posts & replies you got to your credit since signing-on-board 10-18-2007, mostlly as tag-ons you throw onto other's threads. BTW I liked your 'me-centric' web-page: Link Removed . No links to badge vendors or USA Carry yet...... :mp230603212422Murde