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Fixed your link. I just checked and we have one in Greenville. They have a little sign at the main entrance but it does not meet SC's requirements. I carry there all the time. I won't go to a mall unless I'm armed.
Fixed your link. I just checked and we have one in Greenville. They have a little sign at the main entrance but it does not meet SC's requirements. I carry there all the time. I won't go to a mall unless I'm armed.
I received this answer to my questions after I sent an e-mail today. I sent them another e-mail and told them their policy to keep shoppers safe does not work, that Omaha and the mall in AZ was a test testimony to that.
[email protected] wrote: Thank you for contacting us with your inquiry regarding company policy on the possession of firearms on mall property.
Possession of any weapon at Grapevine Mills, whether concealed or displayed openly, is in violation of mall policy. This policy is intended first and foremost to maintain a safe, secure and comfortable environment at Grapevine Mills, which has always been our top priority, and to avoid any situation that could potentially place at risk the safety of our shoppers and employees.
Grapevine Mills is private property, and like virtually every other facility in the community that is accessible by the public, ownership/management has the right to prohibit the possession of weapons, both displayed or concealed, other than licensed weapons carried by law enforcement personnel.
We recognize that everyone does not endorse such a policy. However, it is the one our company embraces and enforces at each of our properties and which we believe is in the best interest of those who work and visit there.
I received this answer to my questions after I sent an e-mail today. I sent them another e-mail and told them their policy to keep shoppers safe does not work, that Omaha and the mall in AZ was a test testimony to that.
[email protected] wrote: Thank you for contacting us with your inquiry regarding company policy on the possession of firearms on mall property.
Possession of any weapon at Grapevine Mills, whether concealed or displayed openly, is in violation of mall policy. This policy is intended first and foremost to maintain a safe, secure and comfortable environment at Grapevine Mills, which has always been our top priority, and to avoid any situation that could potentially place at risk the safety of our shoppers and employees.
Grapevine Mills is private property, and like virtually every other facility in the community that is accessible by the public, ownership/management has the right to prohibit the possession of weapons, both displayed or concealed, other than licensed weapons carried by law enforcement personnel.
We recognize that everyone does not endorse such a policy. However, it is the one our company embraces and enforces at each of our properties and which we believe is in the best interest of those who work and visit there.
I received this answer to my questions after I sent an e-mail today. I sent them another e-mail and told them their policy to keep shoppers safe does not work, that Omaha and the mall in AZ was a test testimony to that.
[email protected] wrote: Thank you for contacting us with your inquiry regarding company policy on the possession of firearms on mall property.
Possession of any weapon at Grapevine Mills, whether concealed or displayed openly, is in violation of mall policy. This policy is intended first and foremost to maintain a safe, secure and comfortable environment at Grapevine Mills, which has always been our top priority, and to avoid any situation that could potentially place at risk the safety of our shoppers and employees.
Grapevine Mills is private property, and like virtually every other facility in the community that is accessible by the public, ownership/management has the right to prohibit the possession of weapons, both displayed or concealed, other than licensed weapons carried by law enforcement personnel.
We recognize that everyone does not endorse such a policy. However, it is the one our company embraces and enforces at each of our properties and which we believe is in the best interest of those who work and visit there.
So, if it is not legally posted, then you know what to do.
By the way, wasn't there a shooting at Wolfchase a couple of years ago? <<Added: A shooting victim's car was found in their parking lot but the victim had been killed at another location.>> It also seems like the level of security at Raleigh Springs and Oak Court would be of interest - how have Simon's policies contributed to the safe, secure and comfortable environment maintained at those locations?
I would have to agree with the statement concerning the rent a cops.The guys at our mall would have a hard time running anywheres without a tank of oxygen strapped to their backs.It`s a feel good tactic used by the mall to make the sheeple feel at ease. Some people see the uniform and assume they are safe.others live in the real world and realize that when TSHTF,these rent a cops will be invisible.I believe you're confusing Wolf-hell with an incident maybe 15 years ago at Oak Court. I'm sure their run & hide rent-a-cops have DRASTICALLY contributed to their safe environment.
I would have to agree with the statement concerning the rent a cops.The guys at our mall would have a hard time running anywheres without a tank of oxygen strapped to their backs.It`s a feel good tactic used by the mall to make the sheeple feel at ease. Some people see the uniform and assume they are safe.others live in the real world and realize that when TSHTF,these rent a cops will be invisible.
I think even this could be too generous. The security guards I see tend to be there to protect the stores from shoplifters not you personally.
Or maybe they are protecting you from high prices due to excessive shoplifting?
Many would say, "Oh NO! Don't call the business and ask or they will post and then what will you do?" QUOTE]...
Not sure what you're getting at here... this is exactly what should should not be done IF the business is not posted or not legally posted IAW the laws in your state. Bringing this to the attention of the owner/manager/whom ever could result in it becoming legally posted. Know the laws in your state... and remember - silence can work on our behalf.
Many would say, "Oh NO! Don't call the business and ask or they will post and then what will you do?" QUOTE]...
Not sure what you're getting at here... this is exactly what should should not be done IF the business is not posted or not legally posted IAW the laws in your state. Bringing this to the attention of the owner/manager/whom ever could result in it becoming legally posted. Know the laws in your state... and remember - silence can work on our behalf.
While I respect your right to be silent, it is my opinion that being silent while our rights are eroded has gotten us to the place we are now. One business that sees another posted, even improperly, can assume it doesn't cost anything and adopt a similar policy. When I see a place improperly or ambiguously posted or am told by an employee that it is not allowed, I ask the management to clarify and then verify with the corporate office. This is particularly appropriate at Wal-Marts where there are so many situations where the employees haven't got a clue about their corporate policy. At least one Best Buy has also had this occur. I also make it very clear that they have decided they do not want my business.
If there is neither attempted signage nor any employee comments, then I don't inquire as there would be no need to verify that they are NOT posted. Also note that in at least one state you have to notify the homeowner before entering their residence that you are carrying a firearm and obtain their specific acknowledgement/permission.