*Bloodied Image of Zimmerman's Head Released*

[jg1967]

I have to wonder ..if Martin was 21 instead of 17 and had a permit to carry, would he have had the right to “Stand His Ground?”

When Zimmerman got out of his car after being told by the police not to approach the “suspect walker” and approached and confronted the kid anyway, would the kid then have had a right to tell him he was carrying concealed and demand that Zimmerman ‘BACK OFF.’

Did the kid, since he was doing nothing wrong, have the right to stand his ground and protect himself with his fists when confronted by Zimmerman? ….Zimmerman who had no legal right to demand why the kid was walking on the sidewalks in Zimmerman’s “territory?”

If Zimmerman had stayed in his vehicle and had just followed the kid while waiting for the LEO, and not gotten into the kid’s face, there would be no discussion here. Zimmerman was not a trained “Community Watch” person, nor a LEO, and had no right to place himself in a self-defense situation and would have avoided problems by simply staying in his car.

My read is Martin had the right to “stand his ground!” And not to be shot by a stranger using deadly force in a confrontational fist-fight he started! I know if I was Martin and had Zimmerman confronted me in this situation, I would have ask him to back-off …of course, I am an armed citizen and I am satisfied he would have, once I informed him of his peril if he persisted, left me alone immediately.

I have to deduct Zimmerman was not stupid. He was ready, willing and desiring to shoot himself a ‘bad-guy.’

Neither Zimmermann nor Treyvon did anything illegal - the question is who and what started the fight.

 

[jd_mitchell]

I'm so damned tired of hearing about skittles & canned tea I could scream.
AND quit showing the guys baby pictures. He was over 6 ft. tall.
Tried & convicted by the media and bad press.

That's why I waited to see how it panned out. I figured it is a sad situation all around.

 

[Inglorious Basterd]

What I find most disturbing is that this was blown up into a racial issue with the victim being falsely portrayed as a fresh faced 12 year old innocently eating candy and being murdered by Whitey, selectively pictured in an orange top to infer it was a county jail mugshot. The victim was a large teenage youth, and the shooter is Hispanic. Can't help thinking this has been a pathetic and scandalous attempt by the media and the victims supporters to pervert justice.

 

[BluesStringer]

What I find most disturbing is that this was blown up into a racial issue with the victim being falsely portrayed as a fresh faced 12 year old innocently eating candy and being murdered by Whitey, selectively pictured in an orange top to infer it was a county jail mugshot. The victim was a large teenage youth, and the shooter is Hispanic. Can't help thinking this has been a pathetic and scandalous attempt by the media and the victims supporters to pervert justice.

While I agree with your conclusion, to be fair, the only picture the media had of Zimmerman when the whole circus atmosphere blew up was a mugshot in "County Orange" from an arrest several years previous. He was not convicted on that arrest, but the mugshot remained available to the media, and by the time more current non-mugshot pics became available, the damage was already done. At least they aren't still using the mugshot pic. Link Removed

Blues

 

[SR40c]

While I agree with your conclusion, to be fair, the only picture the media had of Zimmerman when the whole circus atmosphere blew up was a mugshot in "County Orange" from an arrest several years previous. He was not convicted on that arrest, but the mugshot remained available to the media, and by the time more current non-mugshot pics became available, the damage was already done. At least they aren't still using the mugshot pic. Link Removed

Blues

Pretty sure that the media would have used the mugshot anyway. At least until the truth came out. After all, they took the time and effort to doctor 911 tapes.

 

[BluesStringer]

Pretty sure that the media would have used the mugshot anyway. At least until the truth came out. After all, they took the time and effort to doctor 911 tapes.

This is true. Thankfully though, the doctored tapes only went out over MSNBC, and probably only about 10 people heard it without context-corrections and condemning commentary accompanying it. I certainly never would've known about the doctored tapes if not for exposure by more objective sources than MSNBC. I've even tried to pay attention to them just on the "keep your enemies closer" theory, and I literally can't take their on-air personalities for more than a minute or two.

Blues

 

[eagleeyes]

Prosecutors Release More George Zimmerman Evidence | NBC 6 Miami

another new release of evidence on the zimmerman story

seems consistent with what he was saying happened all along