Benefits of carrying concealed and having real priorities.

I think most legal carry customers will shun gun buster stores but some will enter. But the criminals will not be deterred and some will certainly be encouraged to rob/kill. If I choose to enter and leave the gun locked in the car I'm looking at everyone closely until I leave. I fully believe businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone but it's foolish to believe crooks won't rob/kill there.
 
Firefighterchen said:
There is only one sicko who keeps bringing up torturing children, and that person is you. What keeps these thoughts going through your head is beyond me, it's disgusting and you should be ashamed that you would even think that way.

If you read the articles, and my last post, you would see I had three articles linked, but then I stated two of the three the criminal did not break into the dwelling. That leaves how many articles where the person did break into the dwelling? You can do it, 3 - 2 = x? Warning shots mean nothing, the person who walked into a construction site got shot for just BEING there. The person who walked into a barn got shot for just BEING there.

Coming into my property without my permission is breaking into my property. If I have a no guns sign, and you have a gun, you do not have my permission, therefore you are breaking into my property. And as you so eloquently stated, breaking into my property is a threat.

I hope you realize, everyone can see how YOUR thought process works, and how only YOUR thoughts go to torturing children, how much of a threat do you think everyone thinks you are with demented fantasies like skinning children? Seriously, I agree with you on most things, but if doing satanic acts to children are what come into your mind, you should do some soul searching and ask why you think that way...

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WTF?????

I give you a 100% logical/true example of what YOU SAID YOU COULD DO........ YOU SAID YOU COULD KILL ANYONE WHO IS JUST STANDING ON YOUR PROPERTY, EVEN IF THEY ARE SHOWING NO THREATENING BEHAVIOR TOWARDS YOU............... and yet I am the sick one?????????? the satanic one??????


YOU are the one who claims you can kill anyone if you want to, just as long as they exist inside your property lines.....

I very simply pointed out the fallacy of your claims by showing you what you were actually claiming...... If you have the "right" as you claim, to be able to kill someone for "BEING" on your property.... what difference does it make how old they are, hmmmm?????????? SO, I gave the example of a child to show what your statements, according to YOU, not me, allowed YOU TO DO.......

If it was legal, as you claim... to kill anyone just for "BEING" on your property, then why are you whining and calling ME names and such when I point out the very obvious conclusion of YOUR THINKING?????

I am NOT the one who claims to be able to murder anyone I want........ YOU ARE

I am not the one who called someone "satanic", YOU ARE

My thought process is 100% functioning well within societies norms, I am not the one who thinks it is fine to kill someone (no matter their age, as age has nothing to do with "BEING THERE") who is not a threat to you..... it is YOU WHO HAS CLAIMED THAT "right"...


It is YOU who has a warped thought process, you cannot see the logical outcomes of what you claim to be legal and moral, yet in reality your "justification for murder" is NEITHER.........
 
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You know how I know you have no argument? When you use children as your only reasoning. I'll dismiss your argument like I dismiss all the Newtown arguments that are based on "but the children."

You can keep dreaming about skinning kids.

You can keep on trespassing.

I'll retain MY Right to defend myself on MY property against those criminals who have let demons into their thoughts and feel they can be on MY property without permission.
 
Firefighterchen said:
You know how I know you have no argument? When you use children as your only reasoning. I'll dismiss your argument like I dismiss all the Newtown arguments that are based on "but the children."

You can keep dreaming about skinning kids.

You can keep on trespassing.

I'll retain MY Right to defend myself on MY property against those criminals who have let demons into their thoughts and feel they can be on MY property without permission.
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Sigh...
I used an example that would shock you into SEEING what YOUR STANCE actually was... YOU stated that YOU could kill ANYONE for just BEING on your property, and there is no getting out of that, it is what YOU stated, not me......


Tell us, mr enlightened one, WHAT IS YOUR cut-off age for YOUR murderous policy? 10? 12? 15? 18? 21? 40? Well?
How old do they have to be before you can kill them with impunity??????

Answer the fukkin question......
 
Axeanda45 said:
Sigh...
I used an example that would shock you into SEEING what YOUR STANCE actually was... YOU stated that YOU could kill ANYONE for just BEING on your property, and there is no getting out of that, it is what YOU stated, not me......


Tell us, mr enlightened one, WHAT IS YOUR cut-off age for YOUR murderous policy? 10? 12? 15? 18? 21? 40? Well?
How old do they have to be before you can kill them with impunity??????

Answer the fukkin question......
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I've seen evil, I've seen 4 year olds killed by meth overdoses by evil people. You can't "shock" me, you can only persuade me into thinking how psychotic your imagination can be, and you did a fine job at that.

How old does someone have to be to have the physical capacity to be a threat? There is no age limit. The only kind of person who will argue, "well what about 2 day old babies?" holds no value, especially when that same person will probably think up the most satanic situation they can.

Keep on making excuses for you to trespass and infringe on property owners Rights. I'll ALWAYS hold the Right to defend myself on MY property from psychos like you for just BEING there. Same goes for anyone else on my properties without my permission.

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Firefighterchen said:
I've seen evil, I've seen 4 year olds killed by meth overdoses by evil people. You can't "shock" me, you can only persuade me into thinking how psychotic your imagination can be, and you did a fine job at that.

How old does someone have to be to have the physical capacity to be a threat? There is no age limit. so, according to YOU right here, a 2 or 3 yr old is fair game on YOUR PROPERTY... Got it.. The only kind of person who will argue, "well what about 2 day old babies?" holds no value, especially when that same person will probably think up the most satanic situation they can.

Keep on making excuses for you to trespass and infringe on property owners Rights. I'll ALWAYS hold the Right to defend myself on MY property from 2yr olds...for just BEING there. Same goes for anyone else under 10 on my properties without my permission.

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You just cannot handle the fact that I caught you in a no-win statement and I wont let it go.... LMBO..... and yes, I did delete a few of your words in the quoted text, and put mine in red.... not trying to put words in your mouth, you did a bang-up job of painting yourself into a corner without my help.....
 
Axeanda45 said:
You just cannot handle the fact that I caught you in a no-win statement and I wont let it go.... LMBO..... and yes, I did delete a few of your words in the quoted text, and put mine in red.... not trying to put words in your mouth, you did a bang-up job of painting yourself into a corner without my help.....
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There you go again with your satanic fantasies.

You know how I know you have no argument again? Because you HAVE to change my text to conform to your satanic ideas.

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According to firefighter, the definition of satanic=taking an argument to its logical conclusion...

For example, the argument of his that says he can shoot ANYONE just for being on his property does not include EVERYONE in his mind, but in every other sane or honest persons mind, anyone has to include everyone or it is not everyone, it is some, which is an entirely different word with different meaning....


When I point out this flaw in his thinking, he comes back at me claiming I am satanic..... funny, I am not the one who claims to be able to kill EVERYONE I want just for being on my property .......

Is a 2 year old someone, or just an animal or object of property? Is a 10 year old gangbanger someone or do they only become someone when they turn 16? I would really like to know just WHO firefighter claims he can kill with impunity, and what age the cutoff is....
 
Axeanda45 said:
According to firefighter, the definition of satanic=taking an argument to its logical conclusion...

For example, the argument of his that says he can shoot ANYONE just for being on his property does not include EVERYONE in his mind, but in every other sane or honest persons mind, anyone has to include everyone or it is not everyone, it is some, which is an entirely different word with different meaning....


When I point out this flaw in his thinking, he comes back at me claiming I am satanic..... funny, I am not the one who claims to be able to kill EVERYONE I want just for being on my property .......

Is a 2 year old someone, or just an animal or object of property? Is a 10 year old gangbanger someone or do they only become someone when they turn 16? I would really like to know just WHO firefighter claims he can kill with impunity, and what age the cutoff is....
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Actually, according to me, skinning children is satanic and insane. You are the only person to think like that on these forums. So the only honest logical conclusion to be made is you need help.

Here in America, for now, we don't have to worry about children being martyrs but if the time comes, a 4 year old can be used as a weapon. You don't think so? Go ask the Taliban.

Too bad we can't leave, "but what about the children" bull**** to the liberals.

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Firefighterchen said:
Actually, according to me, skinning children is satanic and insane. You are the only person to think like that on these forums. No, I am the only person who pointed out the ignorance of your claim that you can shoot ANYONE you want on your property.... a child would HAVE to be included in your claim of ANYONE.... man up and admit your mistaken claim of being able to shoot ANYONE on your property or change your wording to the real world and say you can shoot anyone who is a THREAT on your property.. So the only honest logical conclusion to be made is you need help.

Here in America, for now, we don't have to worry about children being martyrs but if the time comes, a 4 year old can be used as a weapon. You don't think so? Go ask the Taliban.

Too bad we can't leave, "but what about the children" bull**** to the liberals.

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Claiming something (or stating something) and not being man enough to admit it is wrong is not a good quality... You continue to defend a stance of being able to KILL anyone on your property, just for being there..... Yet, at the same time you completely ignore the FACT that your statement HAS to include those who are innocent and or helpless or it is not a true statement... (in your mind everyone does not include everyone)

You claim someone (ANYONE) on your property who is NOT a threat to you is still a legal target for your un-natural urges to murder anyone you want..... When I point out the fallacy (fantasy) of your position, you then attack me for doing so...... Re-word your position to reflect reality and I will stop pointing it out....
 
Axeanda45 said:
Claiming something (or stating something) and not being man enough to admit it is wrong is not a good quality... You continue to defend a stance of being able to KILL anyone on your property, just for being there..... Yet, at the same time you completely ignore the FACT that your statement HAS to include those who are innocent and or helpless or it is not a true statement... (in your mind everyone does not include everyone)

You claim someone (ANYONE) on your property who is NOT a threat to you is still a legal target for your un-natural urges to murder anyone you want..... When I point out the fallacy (fantasy) of your position, you then attack me for doing so...... Re-word your position to reflect reality and I will stop pointing it out....
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I'm stating what is legal for me. I all ready posted what I would do if I caught someone trespassing.

You should learn the definitions of urge, wanting, and able before you use those them. You are confusing yourself.

My position will always stay the same, it's my property, I can legally defend it from a trespasser who I feel is threatening, I don't care if you are there just to pick your butt, I can't read your sick mind.

It's time to man up, and go get help. You, whose mind took, "I CAN (not want, not urge, not will) kill anyone for just BEING on my property" and had a logical conclusion of "you WANT to skin/butcher children" needs some serious help.

Bikenut had it right the whole time, any response from you I will just return with your quote of "skin/butcher children," and if anyone is interested at all with what either of us say they can make up their own minds.


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I'm new here and only catching pieces of the issue.
However, something that stands out in this reply us that there are usually two reasons to have a no gun sign in your store.

One: You're a ***** that hates guns out of your own inability to handle fear and lack of selfesteem.

Two: Your insurance company is charging insanely higher rates. And you can't afford to operate under such costs.

Only one of these two deserve us leaving them without our money and protection. The other deserves some investigations and should not be blacklisted.

Just my opinion on the matter.

- D
 
It seems that that too many of us concealed carriers have too big a mouth. Why does carrying concealed make us the protector of the area we are in. I've been carrying for nearly 50 years and hardly anyone knows it -- maybe my wife and a few close friends, no one else. I absolutely do not talk about it. I will never use my weapon to protect strangers, I carry only to protect me and my wife and family. If I'm in a business that's being robbed, I'll let it be robbed unless the person comes at me. If someone's shooting up the place, what guarantee do I have that I can protect the public without hurting/killing others in the line of fire? Has anyone clearly thought out the criminal charges that could come? Don't forget the financial outcome. Some sleazy lawyer will show up suing you for Lord knows what, and that'll cost you all you have. It's not worth it to me. I'll keep my weapon for what I originally intended it for -- the protection of me, my loved ones, and my home.
 
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