Open carry confrontations

croute said:
Totally agree. I know they're trying to make a statement, but I think they're going about it all wrong. There was an incident where some guys thought it was a good idea to open carry at a library and walked into the children's book area. Of course the police were called and it became a huge problem. Now there's a ban on carrying in libraries. So much for that smart move.
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I think you're referring to an incident that happened in Michigan. And that is not what happened. The ban was temporary, a court injunction on open carry, not all carry into a library, and after going to the state appeals court, the injunction was reversed, and state preemption was upheld as applying to the District Library authority. We can once again, OC in a public library.
 
vernsimpson said:
I have been reading posts from people who legally open carry and get into a confrontation with businesses. I would compare them to a woman whose attire leaves little to nothing to the imagination and then complains about the “unwanted” attention. It is my opinion that both are saying, “Hey, look at me!”
Businesses are places where businesspeople earn a living for themselves and their families. The businessperson may be a gun rights advocate, but must protect his business and his livelihood when his customers object or are uncomfortable knowing a firearm is in their midst. How would you feel if someone threatened your families’ livelihood? I know I would not be happy about it.
I do not ever plan on OC. It has not happened as yet, but if any business objects to my CC I will respect their right to make a living. I will not be belligerent, confrontational or vocal about it. If they are polite I will just leave. But if they are in my face, I will politely inform them that I am sorry but I will take my business elsewhere.
This part may step on some toes but I do not know how to say it other than being blunt. Anyone, while standing up for their gun rights, who would be confrontational, belligerent and loudly vocal may not have the proper temperament to carry a firearm. I would agree that we should always stand up for our gun rights. But I do not think the way to do it is to make a scene in public. The only thing that is proven that way is that there are some people who should not have a firearm. The Left is trying to make hay out of the Trayvon Martin case. We do not need a couple of hotheads pouring gasoline onto the fire.
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The last "confrontation" I had was some cute girl coming up to me, who said: "Nice Gun. Oh, and I like your pistol too." What can I say, I still got it after all these years. :wink:
 
Here in southwestern Virginia, open carry is legal. I've done it for years with no problems. Nowadays, I carry concealed more ofton than not, however, still will support the right of those that want to open carry. It is a choice, much like whether to smoke or drink, providing you are of legal age to do so. If it is in your legal rights to do so, by all means carry, whether open or concealed. Much like American Express........NEVER LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT!
 
Maine04, you hit the nail on the Head! B.I.N.G.O.!!!! How does anyone who sees you carring a gun, know if your are law enforcement or not to begin with??? I so appreciate NO PERMIT in SD for open carry! I frequently open carry a 44 mag strapped to my hip (Loaded Mind you) when I go shopping with my wife... I have never been stopped confronted or even looked at funny... I have seen several guys carrying open in local communities and literally assume they might be cops??? don't know, don't care! But, I do know this... when you see a man or woman packing... you know they are carrying "THE LAW" with them!... There is always a presents of "Authority" in the room or you just know... everyone is going to mind their peas and ques! Unless of course your a dumb ass.. and decide to pull a gun on a clerk and try and rob the store.. but here in SD, you'd probably get popped by 12 concealed carry guys, 4 concealed carry girls/gals and some freak like me with a 44 mag with bear loads! I don't recon we'll see any theater shootings in near future here.. almost everyone I know, says they now carry when the go to the movies!!

About the Hot headed comments, I have a tendency to agree.... never argue! Walk away! Just make it for good and tell everyone that the business person doesn't respect the right to carry! (Period) In south dakota, we call that laying the 8 ball heavy!... You get that and you more than likely will expect to close your doors in months!
 
SteveB said:
Here in southwestern Virginia, open carry is legal. I've done it for years with no problems. Nowadays, I carry concealed more ofton than not, however, still will support the right of those that want to open carry. It is a choice, much like whether to smoke or drink, providing you are of legal age to do so. If it is in your legal rights to do so, by all means carry, whether open or concealed. Much like American Express........NEVER LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT!
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It ain't just in southwest Virginia. Open carry is not only legal state wide but it is the normal (read that as standard or default) mode of carry since no permission is required from our employees (i.e., civil servants). I live in western Prince William County about 6-7 miles west of Manassas and I have only had one negative encounter in the 5 1/2 years I have been OC'ing on a daily basis. That was from a man in a McDonald's who claimed he was a retired LEO, but judging from his accent, he was not native Virginian. More than likely from somewhere up in the northeastern part of the country. We just don't have any problems here when OC'ing.
 
BlackHillsToday said:
But, I do know this... when you see a man or woman packing... you know they are carrying "THE LAW" with them!... There is always a presents of "Authority" in the room or you just know... everyone is going to mind their peas and ques!
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First let me say that the only reason I'm not calling this a troll post is because I promised the plank owner I wouldn't use that term anymore.

That said,

Posts like this (if they’re real) scare the Hell out of me. When I carry a gun, I’m carrying a gun not “THE LAW” not some “AUTHORITY” and not some implied intimidation that they’d better “Mind their “Ps” and “Qs” (And maybe take an English Comp class while they’re at it?). I carry a hand gun be it open (very rarely) or concealed for self defense as a last resort when all other options have failed.

IMO the implication of the quoted post is that the poster carries a firearm to intimidate the people around him and very likely shouldn’t be within 10 feet of a firearm without close adult supervision at all times
 
BlackHillstoday, I have to agree with Treo on this, you are not an authority figure just because you choose to OC. The presence of a gun does not project that in my opinion.
As for the statement, everyone would mind their P's & Q's? You really have never heard of anyone attempting to rob a place with uniformed LEo present? Or ever heard of suicide by cop? Hmm.
 
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Treo said:
First let me say that the only reason I'm not calling this a troll post is because I promised the plank owner I wouldn't use that term anymore.

That said,

Posts like this (if they’re real) scare the Hell out of me. When I carry a gun, I’m carrying a gun not “THE LAW” not some “AUTHORITY” and not some implied intimidation that they’d better “Mind their “Ps” and “Qs” (And maybe take an English Comp class while they’re at it?). I carry a hand gun be it open (very rarely) or concealed for self defense as a last resort when all other options have failed.

IMO the implication of the quoted post is that the poster carries a firearm to intimidate the people around him and very likely shouldn’t be within 10 feet of a firearm without close adult supervision at all times
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+1! Preach it brother treo!
 
Icemanii said:
BlackHillstoday, I have to agree with Theo on this, .
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Umm, it's TReo dude, there's another poster on this board who's user name is Theo and I don't want to get confused with him any more than you would want to get confused with icemanpls ( a previously banned poster)
 
Treo said:
Umm, it's TReo dude, there's another poster on this board who's user name is Theo and I don't want to get confused with him any more than you would want to get confused with icemanpls ( a previously banned poster)
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Edited to correct the error. Thank you!
 
Deserteagle said:
It's sad to see more gun owners against our right to carry a firearm. I dont understand you anti's. This isn't the Brady Campaign forum
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?? Antis?! Where the hell did that come from? A bit of a leap don't you think? Going from "I conceal to carry" jumping to 'He conceals so he's against our rights"? Way off base Desert! Way off base.
 
Obviously here in Floriduh, I don't have the option to OC. I've contemplated the idea of OC and I've looked at different places I go to and can see where both OC and CC would have their place. And the decision as to how I carry would come from my comfort level and not from a legal stand point. Also when Florida does finally join the rest of the majority of the nation and we are finally able to regain our right to carry as we individually see fit, this state will go through a long period of apprehension as OC is brought back on the street.

But still it will be a personal decision.
 
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