Originally Posted by CathyInBlue
As has been said, Black Talons were never banned, just sales restricted by the manufacturer. Do they even manufacture "Black Talons" by name anymore? And as has also been stated, Black Talons and teflon coated ammo are two completely different things. Teflon coated ammo is banned, for the reason that it can neutralize the defensive capabilities of soft kevlar body armour by pushing the fibers out of the way, rather than getting caught in the weave and stopped. For this reason, only FMJ teflon coated bullets are actually effective at defeating soft kevlar, as even a teflon coated JHP would still find enough fibers snagged on its blunt nose to stop it. And, of course, no teflon coated bullet, FMJ or otherwise is going to defeat a hard kevlar trauma plate by virtue of its teflon coating.
"Cop killer" ammo is a term like "assault weapon", a fabrication by the Liberal MSM hype machine. Both Black Talons and teflon coated bullets have been tarred and feathered with the "cop killer" smear, even though no Black Talon has ever been used against a police officer of which I am aware.
As for the contention that a bullet is a "cop killer" if it has the capability of defeating soft kevlar body armour of the type used by law enforcement, as so many Liberal lawmakers attempt to stipulate in one or another of their heinously badly written bills from time to time, that would effectively ban all rifle hunting within the jurisdiction, as any proper .223 or .308 deer rifle packs enough kenetic energy at the tip of a FMJ to eat through soft kevlar like a hot knife through butter. Soft kevlar is meant to stop handgun rounds, not rifle rounds. The terminal ballistics are vastly different.
but such nuances of objective reality are lost on people who go about with "cop killer bullets" on their lips.
Where to begin?
Black Talons were never banned, just sales restricted by the manufacturer.
False Winchester stopped making the Black Talons period because of the publicity issues. They were never restricted for sale to cops only you are think about KTWs which leads us to item number two,
In 1993 Winchester removed the ammunition from public sale,[12] and eventually law enforcement began using the re-branded Ranger SXT line of the same basic design, but at no time was Black Talon ammunition illegal to possess.
Rread more here Black Talon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Teflon coated ammo is banned, for the reason that it can neutralize the defensive capabilities of soft kevlar body armour by pushing the fibers out of the way, rather than getting caught in the weave and stopped.
False
KTWs are a restricted item by the manufacturer who has never offered them for sale to anyone but law enforcement.
In the mid 1960's, Dr. Paul Kopsch (an Ohio coroner), Daniel Turcos (a police sergeant) and Donald Ward (Dr. Kopsch's special investigator) began experimenting with special purpose handgun ammunition. Their objective was to develop a law enforcement round capable of improved penetration against hard targets like windshield glass and automobile doors. Conventional bullets, made primarily from lead, are often ineffective against hard targets especially when fired at handgun velocities. In the 1970's, Kopsch, Turcos and Ward produced their "KTW" handgun ammunition using steel cored bullets capable of great penetration. Following further experimentation, in 1981 they began producing bullets constructed primarily of brass. The hard brass bullets caused exceptional wear on handgun barrels, a problem combated by coating the bullets with Teflon. The Teflon coating did nothing to improve penetration, it simply reduced damage to the gun barrel.
Despite the facts that "KTW" ammunition had never been available to the general public and that no police officer has ever been killed by a handgun bullet penetrating their body armor, the media incorrectly reported that the Teflon coated bullets were designed to defeat the body armor that law enforcement officers were beginning to use. The myth of "Cop-killer" bullets was born.
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GunCite-Gun Control: "Cop-killer" Bullets
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