Dissarmed by officer upon traffic stop ? Wilson NC. WTF ?
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ironmike86
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Right or wrong I see them dumb ass driver everyday. I just let it go. My town has a 4 way stop where seems everyone on the left just speeds up instead of coming to a complete stop. It's tough but my blood pressure would explode if I let all them dumbasses get to me. I know it's tough but don't let it ruin your day.
I have had that happen her in Iowa once when I was stopped. I didn't think much of it because the police out here are really nervous from the jump in number of people who have received them in 2011. To me I would rather have the office more comfortable so I am less likely to get a ticket but totally understand what your talking about as the same thing happened to me with this old guy.
Wintermoon
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Instigating a reckless driver rather than just ignoring them.
Re-instigating when she cut you off again.
Later having the cruise control set for 10 mph under the speed limit.
Then giving sass to a cop when he decides to be careful and disarm you.
Sounds to me like you got what you deserve. You should have just ignored the idiot who cut you off in the first place and have been on your merry way.
Re-instigating when she cut you off again.
Later having the cruise control set for 10 mph under the speed limit.
Then giving sass to a cop when he decides to be careful and disarm you.
Sounds to me like you got what you deserve. You should have just ignored the idiot who cut you off in the first place and have been on your merry way.
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Flanmedic51
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Seems routine to me. Try not to get too bent over it although it is inconvenient for you. He can and will do whatever he needs to do to feel safe. You got a warning....ain't all that bad...seems like he didn't have much evidence to go on to charge you with anything.
Better to just let it go next time. With a 14 YO in the car, they could have done all sorts of child endangerment crap.
Don't escalate the situation by following,doing hand signs, or lipping off. It won't gain you a damn thing except another run in with with the cops.
The cop couldn't really prove anything on you if you weren't drinking, doping, and he didn't see you making any questionable driving moves but he wanted to make sure you knew he was "the man in control".
Don't escalate the situation by following,doing hand signs, or lipping off. It won't gain you a damn thing except another run in with with the cops.
The cop couldn't really prove anything on you if you weren't drinking, doping, and he didn't see you making any questionable driving moves but he wanted to make sure you knew he was "the man in control".
Not sure what you expected to happen. Did you expect the cop to treat you like a fellow LEO? It doesn't seem healthy that you would have a negative attitude after your encounter, and the way you acted might not bode well for the next law-abiding citizen that this cop pulls over after you shared with him your spurned attitude. After all, he gave you only a warning, which probably resulted in no points and no fine. I've had similar encounters and had them go both ways. Actually, I just had one recently where a cop acted similarly, with one big difference.
When he pulled me over, I had been speeding. As he was walking up, I rolled all of my windows all the way down and put both hands out the window, fingers spread out wide, so he could see them. He knew what that meant. He was a pro and knew the drill. When I came up to the door, I told him that for his safety and mine I was letting him know that I have a CCW license, and have a handgun in a holster on my right hip. He very calmly asked me to slowly get out, he took the gun out of the holster, brought it back to his car, then came back and asked for my license, CCW and insurance card. I had no problem with any of it as I have LEOs in my family and give them full respect because I know their job can go from zero to the ugliest in a fraction of a second. Ultimately, this cop gave me a warning, handed me my gun back with no magazine in it, then emptied the magazine into my hand. I had no problem with none of it. Why would I have a problem with it? I wasn't planning on shooting him, and have much respect for how he and his fellow officers have a tough job but still keep me safe every day.
Respectfully, it sounds like your angry/hurt/bitter attitude made this encounter worse than it could have been. Sorry your feelings were hurt by this cop, but still glad you got off with only a warning. I'm glad you and your daughter are safe as well. I just hope he doesn't give one of us a hard time after you getting cranky with him, or think negatively of the rest of us with CCW licenses.
Ease up a bit, guy. You're not a cop, and probably never will be, so don't expect them to treat you like one just because you carry a gun. I don't; why should you?
When he pulled me over, I had been speeding. As he was walking up, I rolled all of my windows all the way down and put both hands out the window, fingers spread out wide, so he could see them. He knew what that meant. He was a pro and knew the drill. When I came up to the door, I told him that for his safety and mine I was letting him know that I have a CCW license, and have a handgun in a holster on my right hip. He very calmly asked me to slowly get out, he took the gun out of the holster, brought it back to his car, then came back and asked for my license, CCW and insurance card. I had no problem with any of it as I have LEOs in my family and give them full respect because I know their job can go from zero to the ugliest in a fraction of a second. Ultimately, this cop gave me a warning, handed me my gun back with no magazine in it, then emptied the magazine into my hand. I had no problem with none of it. Why would I have a problem with it? I wasn't planning on shooting him, and have much respect for how he and his fellow officers have a tough job but still keep me safe every day.
Respectfully, it sounds like your angry/hurt/bitter attitude made this encounter worse than it could have been. Sorry your feelings were hurt by this cop, but still glad you got off with only a warning. I'm glad you and your daughter are safe as well. I just hope he doesn't give one of us a hard time after you getting cranky with him, or think negatively of the rest of us with CCW licenses.
Ease up a bit, guy. You're not a cop, and probably never will be, so don't expect them to treat you like one just because you carry a gun. I don't; why should you?
Well, hrmmmm . . . I run a warehouse in Wilson and I will be on the look out for this kind of stuff. However, like SGB said, thank GAWD she didn't have a weapon on her.
It sounds like you did everything that you were supposed to do with the cop. Not sure I would have been offended by being disarmed. He doesn't know you and because the crazy lady had already said a lot about her perception (albeit seemingly skewed) of the encounter, you can't fault him for protecting himself.
I might have been a bit miffed at the warning ticket, but it is just a warning ticket after all, so no court time or fines/fees.
I really hate your daughter witnessed it all but at 14, she would make a great witness should it ever happen again.
It sounds like you did everything that you were supposed to do with the cop. Not sure I would have been offended by being disarmed. He doesn't know you and because the crazy lady had already said a lot about her perception (albeit seemingly skewed) of the encounter, you can't fault him for protecting himself.
I might have been a bit miffed at the warning ticket, but it is just a warning ticket after all, so no court time or fines/fees.
I really hate your daughter witnessed it all but at 14, she would make a great witness should it ever happen again.
I don't know about the proper protocol for the LEO's department so I can't comment on it, but having raised four children I can ask some rhetorical questions:
That's how you act in front of your 14-year old daughter?
Are you hoping she is so rebellious that she'll behave the exact opposite of you?
That's how you act in front of your 14-year old daughter?
Are you hoping she is so rebellious that she'll behave the exact opposite of you?
BIGJOHN621
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Whether you were the initial victim or not, you became an aggressor when chasing her. Any threat was removed and reintroduced by your actions. Now, I don't know about North Carolina, but at least around here, if you were involved in a physical confrontation, you would not be afforded any protection under a self defense claim, regardless of what actions the other driver took.
I'm not judging your actions, but someone quite wise said in another forum that when you carry, you lose the right to lose your temper (I would give proper credit if I remembered that author). It seems you lost your temper. I'm glad it turned out without incident further than described.
I'm not judging your actions, but someone quite wise said in another forum that when you carry, you lose the right to lose your temper (I would give proper credit if I remembered that author). It seems you lost your temper. I'm glad it turned out without incident further than described.
Wilber
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I have to echo the advice already given: No need to escalate the situation by flipping the lady the bird in the first place. I am not saying what she did is right...but things happen. I know how I feel when someone does that to me, but I would have a hole the size of a bowling ball in my gut if I let it bother me. Relax and let this be an instance of educating your daughter on the inportance of defensive driving. As for being dis-armed by a LEO...they are gonna do what they have to do to ensure their safety and go home at the end of the day.
Maybe a better response would have been to have your daughter use her cell phone (what, she doesn't have one? then let her use your cell phone) to call the local PD and report the irresponsible driver.
If she almost hit you, then someday she will hit someone. By reporting her you just might be saving a life or two.
If she almost hit you, then someday she will hit someone. By reporting her you just might be saving a life or two.
Driving a truck for a living I have to deal with idiots daily, and the best thing its to just let it go. Other than the attitude of the LEO you have no idea what type of person you were made out to be, also our kids learn more from our actions than our teachings. Having 2 boys and knowing they will grow up to be like their Mom and I, we want to be a good example. Hope this doesn't sound like a butt chewing because I have had to apologize to my boys a few times for my actions, and that stinks.
dc1263
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I commute to RTP from Johnston county everyday, If I called in every time I was cut off I by an irresponsible driver I'd have to make 20 calls a day, I always just let it go, in the morning on my way in and on my way back home, Because I am armed I do not escalate the situation,,, sometimes the finger flies But I guess this lady just rubbed me wrong, Maybe I'm a little sensitive to this because I was hit by a driver talking on their cellophone,,, No insurance, and a "REVOKED" DL, $3000.00 damage to my car Nothing to go after, since I was not hurt,,, I let it Go,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
RE : Whether you were the initial victim or not, you became an aggressor when chasing her. Any threat was removed and reintroduced by your actions.
I continued on down road, I difused it not her,,, She pursued me,,, I did not chase her....
I did not get a written warning for this incident, Really more like a Friendly Reminder
I guess I rambled a bit, maybe my point should be,,, The nerve of some people they get so absorbed in their phone conversations that they have no idea that there is another vehicle there, totally oblivious to their surroundings,,
I apologized to my daughter and told her I was sorry that she had to see my finger, but thankfully she was attentive to the situation
I dont make a habit of interacting with LE, however, I've had other interactions with NC officers, A fender bender when a lady on a cell phone sideswiped me in Zebulon, Several driver checkpoints, in and around the wake / johnston county area and another with the highway patrol when I pulled over on 540 to check my tires after my DIC indicated low tire pressure indicator, he stopped to check if I needed assistance.
I am always polite and inform (first thing) all the officers of my CCW and never had an issue, They took a look at my docs and then a thank you,,, by name,,, for informing them on the CCW, never once have been asked to see my handgun either, so after dealing with LE on several other occasions and never having an issue I guess I wasnt expecting to be dissarmed with an attitude this time,, Thats All,,,
RE : Whether you were the initial victim or not, you became an aggressor when chasing her. Any threat was removed and reintroduced by your actions.
I continued on down road, I difused it not her,,, She pursued me,,, I did not chase her....
I did not get a written warning for this incident, Really more like a Friendly Reminder
I guess I rambled a bit, maybe my point should be,,, The nerve of some people they get so absorbed in their phone conversations that they have no idea that there is another vehicle there, totally oblivious to their surroundings,,
I apologized to my daughter and told her I was sorry that she had to see my finger, but thankfully she was attentive to the situation
I dont make a habit of interacting with LE, however, I've had other interactions with NC officers, A fender bender when a lady on a cell phone sideswiped me in Zebulon, Several driver checkpoints, in and around the wake / johnston county area and another with the highway patrol when I pulled over on 540 to check my tires after my DIC indicated low tire pressure indicator, he stopped to check if I needed assistance.
I am always polite and inform (first thing) all the officers of my CCW and never had an issue, They took a look at my docs and then a thank you,,, by name,,, for informing them on the CCW, never once have been asked to see my handgun either, so after dealing with LE on several other occasions and never having an issue I guess I wasnt expecting to be dissarmed with an attitude this time,, Thats All,,,
radiomathteacher
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I have often been in the passenger seat of the car when my wife is driving and she has on occasion cut someone off accidentally. I sure wouldn't want someone flipping her off because she made a mistake that was not malicious, only careless. I am happy that you and your daughter are safe, but I agree with a previous post about losing your right to lose your temper when you are carrying. I have seen worse reactions from police dealing with lawfully armed citizens on YouTube. I hope you take these comments as fellow decent Americans just trying to help. I haven't read any "hater" comments yet about it and I hope I don't.
Deserteagle
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Like others said, I would just avoid the confrontation. There is a whole lot more risk involved if you try to get revenge on the road rather than ignore these drivers. Blood may boil for 30 seconds but that's about all that will happen by just ignoring them.
The one time I have reported a driver was when I was almost involved in a pile up on I-25 because some woman apparently mad at another driver decided to completely stop in the middle lane on the interstate just to anger the driver behind her. Apparently she was too stupid to realize there are a LOT of people behind her on the interstate that were affected by her temper tantrum.
The one time I have reported a driver was when I was almost involved in a pile up on I-25 because some woman apparently mad at another driver decided to completely stop in the middle lane on the interstate just to anger the driver behind her. Apparently she was too stupid to realize there are a LOT of people behind her on the interstate that were affected by her temper tantrum.
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