Reasons not to open carry

[justxboxin]

My mama said stupid is as stupid does ...this post is dead I'm done with it

 

[schadenfreude]

McKee you are never going to win an argument against a cowboy who wants to return to the days of the Old West with a gunbelt strapped on him.

Claiming that anyone who elects to exercise their individual right to OC and inferring that they are somehow reliving a delusional return to the Old West is an unfair characterization that suggests an emotionally driven argument on your behalf.

Wanna convince us of the validity of your point of view?

Stop insinuating that those who exercise their rights are somehow "crazy" and present factual data in support of your claims.

Common sense dictates that CCW is vastly superior to OC. That's precisely why CCW was ruled to be illegal for so long.

Depends upon the source of the "common sense". If the "common sense" upon which the assertions are based orginates from an emotionally driven basis lacking solid factual underlayment, their subjectivity renders a valid objective outcome unlikely.

Now the tide is going the other way, and OC is viewed to be illegal in many places whereas CCW has become more acceptible through the permit process.

The perception of one individual relying upon emotionally-charged claims does not constitue reality. In fact, OC is becoming a more accepted practice (in those places that it is legal) thanks in large part to 2A advocacy organizations and where it hasn't been legal, legislation making OC legal is becoming more frequent.

I believe Vermont and Arizona have the right idea about constitutional non-licensed CCW. However Scalia feels different. He believes that states have the right to make licensing rules for guns.

It is difficult to believe that you can speak authoritatively to Scalia's "feelings" on the topic when in fact he never addressed the ability of the states to regulate CC/OC in D.C. v. Heller.

 

[Firefighterchen]

Claiming that anyone who elects to exercise their individual right to OC and inferring that they are somehow reliving a delusional return to the Old West is an unfair characterization that suggests an emotionally driven argument on your behalf.

Wanna convince us of the validity of your point of view?

Stop insinuating that those who exercise their rights are somehow "crazy" and present factual data in support of your claims.



Depends upon the source of the "common sense". If the "common sense" upon which the assertions are based orginate from an emotionally driven basis lacking solid factual underlayment, their subjectivity renders a valid objective outcome unlikely.



The perception of one individual relying upon emotionally-charged claims does not constitue reality. In fact, OC is becoming a more accepted practice (in those places that it is legal) thanks in large part to 2A advocacy organizations and where it hasn't been legal, legislation making OC legal is becoming more frequent.



It is difficult to believe that you can speak authoritatively to Scalia's "feelings" on the topic when in fact he never addressed the ability of the states to regulate CC/OC in D.C. v. Heller.

As you can tell Shoobee is driven by his emotional distraught. I don't expect anything but a worse answer to come as his "common sense" will have plunged off the deep end. You sir speak with intelligence, and asking them to present facts is like asking for Obama to show his birth cert/school papers....not gonna happen.

 

[schadenfreude]

As you can tell Shoobee is driven by his emotional distraught. I don't expect anything but a worse answer to come as his "common sense" will have plunged off the deep end. You sir speak with intelligence, and asking them to present facts is like asking for Obama to show his birth cert/school papers....not gonna happen.

Thank you, Firefighterchen.

I prefer to assume the best intentions in everyone's arguments until they prove to me otherwise by their actions.

I have formed my opinion of Shoobee's argument and the manner in which it has been made and trust the readers of this forum to make theirs based upon what they've seen so far.

 

[jg1967]

Thank you, Firefighterchen.

I prefer to assume the best intentions in everyone's arguments until they prove to me otherwise by their actions.

I have formed my opinion of Shoobee's argument and the manner in which it has been made and trust the readers of this forum to make theirs based upon what they've seen so far.

Hey, I would not mind going back to the days of the Old West either ;-)

 

[mkeleher]

The right to bear arms applies to everyone. If Government officials can open carry, then Citizens should be able to legally open carry too.

 

[Sir Diealotz]

There is a good reason why Shoobee has been nick named Trollbee

 

[Shoobee]

Since you can't take the heat Dealotz don't go into the kitchen.

If your views cannot bear scrutiny then your views are flawed, obviously.

 

[Shoobee]

Claiming that anyone who elects to exercise their individual right to OC and inferring that they are somehow reliving a delusional return to the Old West is an unfair characterization that suggests an emotionally driven argument on your behalf.

Wanna convince us of the validity of your point of view?

Stop insinuating that those who exercise their rights are somehow "crazy" and present factual data in support of your claims.



Depends upon the source of the "common sense". If the "common sense" upon which the assertions are based orginates from an emotionally driven basis lacking solid factual underlayment, their subjectivity renders a valid objective outcome unlikely.



The perception of one individual relying upon emotionally-charged claims does not constitue reality. In fact, OC is becoming a more accepted practice (in those places that it is legal) thanks in large part to 2A advocacy organizations and where it hasn't been legal, legislation making OC legal is becoming more frequent.



It is difficult to believe that you can speak authoritatively to Scalia's "feelings" on the topic when in fact he never addressed the ability of the states to regulate CC/OC in D.C. v. Heller.

You don't read too well. Read it again.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

 

[schadenfreude]

There is a good reason why Shoobee has been nick named Trollbee

Agreed. It looks like the nick-name is well-deserved.

Of course, what more could be expected from a thread in which the OP asks for advice as to the best way to play "nanny" to his friend?

 

[schadenfreude]

If your views cannot bear scrutiny then your views are flawed, obviously.

How ironic. At least in this instance you speak from demonstrable and well-documented experience.