Waffle House Shooting (Good Guy Wins)

[BluesStringer]

I would seriously like to know what set you off so. I didn't call you names. All I said was that you and whitefeather were wrong about the Waffle House shooter suffering any costs. I posted the statute for you, and then within a few posts whitefeather showed up spewing the same uninformed, ignorant BS, and yeah, I got a little more intense with him because I'm sick and tired of having to do you idiots' homework for you. Read the F'n statute hotrod. YOU WERE WRONG!

Now, to everybody else, thanks to those who noticed that wishing death by gunfire on someone over such minutia is WAY too far out of line to abide on a gun rights forum. I'm frankly amazed that so few had anything to say about it. Whether it was me or Treo, whom, if y'all haven't noticed, we really don't like each other, if that kind of insanity was directed at him, I would condemn it in the strongest possible terms and make sure lukem knew this crazy bastard was polluting his board with unacceptable wishes for violence to be perpetrated against him. 'Course, it's too late for Treo to have any credibility in that regard, because he Liked this insane bastard's post!

This is a guy who came in criticizing snipingshadow for involving himself in an incident where people were being herded into a back room at gunpoint. This poltroon has less than 40 posts at the time of this writing, and has used this thread and at least one other to gain some fantasy of "street cred" around here by bragging about having been in three incidents of using a gun in self defense. Yet he's criticizing snipingshadow instead of congratulating him for getting out alive without any legal or financial consequences befalling him. And only the armed robber who was herding his fellow Waffle House patrons into a back room got hurt. What the heck is there to criticize in this scenario? I mean, forget that this guy couldn't be bothered to actually gather the facts that we've all spent the last six months discussing and coming to an understanding about. I mean just looking at the surface story, why would a guy who couldn't figure out how to avoid gun incidents three times (so he says) be criticizing a guy who defended, not only himself, but a restaurant full of victims as well?

And now he wants me friggin' dead from gun violence, and goes on all the rants he's posted in this thread for literally nothing more than being told he was wrong? Only four or five people on this forum think that's an egregious enough offense to even say anything about it?

I'll say it again, both the offender and the only poster to have "Liked" his death-wish post should be banned. And you're danged right you imbecile, I will point out that tripe every time you post from now on. It would be one thing if some folks around here take you seriously as a sane, more-or-less normal participant if they never saw this thread or your death-wish-by-gun-violence before. I'm going to make sure that it doesn't go unnoticed by anyone you get in a conversation with. Ever.

Blues

 

[snipingshadow]

I agree with blues pretty much all the time. This is no exception. Wishing harm by a firearm is no laughing matter and may even be considered a threat to some... That kinda goes against what this whole site is about. Just sayin...

 

[jhodge83]

wow...and i thought i was one to stir the ****. still agree with SSs actions though...

this fight =

 

[rrman12280]

Once again, Bluesringer has it wrong. The only one that I thought should be in harms way was the big Bluestringer himself and only himself. I recommended that he do us a favor and take a bullet for us. In no way could that be construed to mean I want anyone else to get hurt so I wonder why he is attempting to re-word my statement to mean i wished harm to everyone else.
He is acting like such a child, going to posts I made and basically talking behind my back to "get me in trouble". I think that what really happened is that I was spot on in my assessment of his character. Don't worry, he has tagged most of my posts directing the users to read the comment I left about him because he is embarrassed as hell that I spoke out. I am sorry that I must have touched a nerve or something with him but wow, he is loosing it.

Ohhhh. So you only wanting Blues to take a bullet is acceptable? How ridiculous. I knew you were talking about Blues from the beginning. I don't think he has attempted to re-word your statement.

You sir, are the one acting like a child.

Everyone here has made a good assessment of your character as well. Whatever "good" you had to offer to this forum has been lost in this thread.

 

[Treo]

Now, to everybody else, thanks to those who noticed that wishing death by gunfire on someone over such minutia is WAY too far out of line to abide on a gun rights forum. I'm frankly amazed that so few had anything to say about it. Whether it was me or Treo, whom, if y'all haven't noticed, we really don't like each other, if that kind of insanity was directed at him, I would condemn it in the strongest possible terms and make sure lukem knew this crazy bastard was polluting his board with unacceptable wishes for violence to be perpetrated against him. 'Course, it's too late for Treo to have any credibility in that regard, because he Liked this insane bastard's post!

I thought twice about liking that post because of the last line but I did it because I agreed with the rest of the post. Whishing anyone dead is bad Ju Ju.

That said, C’mon folks the guy has troll as his avatar even justxboxin could figure that out.

 

[BluesStringer]

I thought twice about liking that post because of the last line but I did it because I agreed with the rest of the post. Whishing anyone dead is bad Ju Ju.

That said, C’mon folks the guy has troll as his avatar even justxboxin could figure that out.

Like I said, it's too late for you to have any credibility in this regard. You have troll written all over you too, and both of you should go.

Blues

 

[Keykutter]

Blues, I don't think only a handful agree with you about CM. There comes a point when statements like he made are not worth egging him on.

He should be banned from this forum. I am all for the refreshing lack of micro moderation here but this goes to the point of being ridiculous.

We are all, now, a part of a forum where members wish death on each other.

That what the media will say in the aftermath.

KK

 

[BluesStringer]

Blues, I don't think only a handful agree with you about CM. There comes a point when statements like he made are not worth egging him on.

He should be banned from this forum. I am all for the refreshing lack of micro moderation here but this goes to the point of being ridiculous.

We are all, now, a part of a forum where members wish death on each other.

That what the media will say in the aftermath.

KK

My feelings exactly about the micro moderation here KK. Actually, this site used to be heavily over-moderated, which is why I only had a handful of posts in the early weeks, maybe months, and probably 90% or better of my participation here has been since January of this year when I stopped by and noticed a more wide-open atmosphere.

I have only asked for someone to be banned twice in my 20 years online. Once like 15 or 16 years ago when someone else was threatened with violence, and here in this thread. I'm a big boy. I'm fairly well able to take being called names and being the target of heavy sarcasm and such without lowering myself to their level. I draw the line at calls for violence though.

Well, I just noticed that CharlesMorrison has indeed been banned. Thank you lukem. It's hard not to take it personally when someone says they'd like to read of your violent death, but my call for this guy's ban wasn't about me as much as it was about knowing there is a line here that won't be allowed to be crossed. I'm very happy to know there is.

Now who wants to spew a bunch more uninformed, ignorant crap about the Waffle House shooting? I'm ready for ya! LOL

Blues

 

[rrman12280]

Now we can return to our regularly scheduled program.

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[Treo]

Like I said, it's too late for you to have any credibility in this regard. You have troll written all over you too, and both of you should go.

Blues

For someone who has me on ignore you sure pay a lot of attention to what I post.

To be perfectly honest you are exactly the kind of busy body I envision when I hear the word “Sheep dog”. I can see you wandering (pardon me I meant patrolling) your neighborhood w/ your armored car guard badge looking for “miscreants” (I’m Picturing John Candy in “Who’s Harry Crumb”) and I’d probably laugh my ass off if I ever met you but I don’t wish you dead.

As for me being banned, I won’t say I’m bullet proof but I do draw hit’s, which makes the owner money so as long as I abide by whatever rules exist here I expect you’re going to have to put up with me

 

[USN2Pulpit]

So, what happened to the discussion about waffle house? I can't be bothered to catch up on 62 pages! Well done everybody...and yes, I'm just putting something in here to up my post count. I need to be promoted!

 

[BluesStringer]

For someone who has me on ignore you sure pay a lot of attention to what I post.

I posted at least two weeks ago that I took you off ignore at your urging.

And still I haven't sniped at you or called you names, just choosing to explain and quote your own words to you instead. You're off ignore for the time being (though I seriously doubt that you care at all), so if you want to go all adult on us, now would be a good time to set a good example for immature me. Link Removed

In reality, it is you choosing to ignore all the valid, perfectly polite, sourced, linked and well thought-out posts I make, and only come out from behind it when you want to snipe. You might recall that the above quote of mine was part of my last reply about you calling me a "punk" for making a freakin' joke about being ignored by you. You obviously care much more than I do about being ignored.

To be perfectly honest you are exactly the kind of busy body I envision when I hear the word “Sheep dog”. I can see you wandering (pardon me I meant patrolling) your neighborhood w/ your armored car guard badge looking for “miscreants” (I’m Picturing John Candy in “Who’s Harry Crumb”) and I’d probably laugh my ass off if I ever met you but I don’t wish you dead.

And this conjecture is no more accurate than all the wrong conjecture you offered early in this thread about the Waffle House shooting incident. I am nothing like what you "envision," which could just as easily be referred to as a self-indulgent fantasy. You all tough and laughing in my face based only on your fantasies of a stranger on the internet is exactly the kind of idiocy internet trolls always try to put forth.

It's still too late to say you don't wish me dead. You had your chance to post a caveat to your "Like" on that post without being called on it. You blew it, if you "Like" a post that got that idiot banned, I fail to see the logic in not banning you too. But it ain't my call. So be it.

As for me being banned, I won’t say I’m bullet proof but I do draw hit’s, which makes the owner money so as long as I abide by whatever rules exist here I expect you’re going to have to put up with me

Oh my. This is as narcissistic as Obama taking credit for getting bin Laden! How do you fantasize that you draw hits that aren't already here? If your head was any bigger you'd have to have two necks to hold it up. Get a grip.

Blues

 

[SGB]

For someone who has me on ignore you sure pay a lot of attention to what I post.

To be perfectly honest you are exactly the kind of busy body I envision when I hear the word “Sheep dog”. I can see you wandering (pardon me I meant patrolling) your neighborhood w/ your armored car guard badge looking for “miscreants” (I’m Picturing John Candy in “Who’s Harry Crumb”) and I’d probably laugh my ass off if I ever met you but I don’t wish you dead.

As for me being banned, I won’t say I’m bullet proof but I do draw hit’s, which makes the owner money so as long as I abide by whatever rules exist here I expect you’re going to have to put up with me

Now you're just being an ass. You definitely give the impression as one who does not work or play well with others.

 

[Treo]

I posted at least two weeks ago that I took you off ignore at your urging.

I think I'v already made it pretty clear that I don't read your posts

In reality, it is you choosing to ignore all the valid, perfectly polite, sourced, linked and well thought-out posts I make, and only come out from behind it when you want to snipe. You might recall that the above quote of mine was part of my last reply about you calling me a "punk" for making a freakin' joke about being ignored by you. You obviously care much more than I do about being ignored.

Not really, I have a whole mess of groupies anyway.

You all tough and laughing in my face based only on your fantasies of a stranger on the internet is exactly the kind of idiocy internet trolls always try to put forth.

I never said anything about being tough, I said I'd be laughing my ass off.

It's still too late to say you don't wish me dead. You had your chance to post a caveat to your "Like" on that post without being called on it. You blew it, if you "Like" a post that got that idiot banned, I fail to see the logic in not banning you too. But it ain't my call. So be it.

Not to be a prick but I won't be losing any sleep over your opinion of me

Oh my. This is as narcissistic as Obama taking credit for getting bin Laden! How do you fantasize that you draw hits that aren't already here? If your head was any bigger you'd have to have two necks to hold it up. Get a grip.

It is what it is

 

[BluesStringer]

I think I'v already made it pretty clear that I don't read your posts

Right, but still you have "visions" of me being "exactly" the kind of..... blah blah blah. That's really the point. You only read enough to find fault with and then post in such a way as to illicit an angry response from me or whoever else you obsess with negativity over. When I don't oblige and refrain from calling you names or showing any anger towards you at all, you go on with your brainless "visions" as though they ever had validity to begin with. They didn't, they don't, and they never will. You're just a run-of-the-mill troll, and the "Like" that you gave and your subsequent posts in this thread are clear evidence of that fact, 100% unjustified by anything I've said to you in this thread.

I never said anything about being tough, I said I'd be laughing my ass off.

Sure. No one would think that saying you'd laugh in a stranger's face based solely on your numb-nutted suppositions of what they are "exactly" like wouldn't require that you be tough if that ever happened. Since it will never happen, it amounts to nothing more than keyboard commando, wannabe tough-guy posturing.

Not to be a prick but I won't be losing any sleep over your opinion of me

Right back atcha cupcake. The only difference is, you have been nothing but a prick to me, and I haven't reciprocated beyond extremely lightweight sarcasm. And don't forget, this Act in our ongoing drama started because I laughed at myself over the prospect of earning a spot on your ignore list. You went ape-sh!t over my self-deprecating joke and called me a punk, then "Liked" a post calling for my violent death. It's quite clear that you would not lose sleep over much of anything. Losing sleep requires, at a minimum, some degree of a conscience. You have shown no evidence of possessing one at all.

It is what it is

I think it's more like it is what it ain't.

Blues

 

[Treo]

Not to hijack the thread but another incident has happened in my home town and i would like to know what you guys think (besides treo. We all know he'd hop in a car and hightail it outta there before the cops arrived) would be the proper course of action. This draws the line to where i think its best to hunker down behind a car and watch. I imagine by the time you hear the shots fired its over and he is trying to get away. No point in shooting after the fact because it wont do the lady any good, correct? Link Removed

Actually you're wrong I have quite a bit of medical training and one of the few "civic" duties I recognize is to render aid to the level of my training and experience.

That said, after the patient was under the care of EMS, if there was any way I could get out of there w/out giving my name to the police or making a statement I'd be gone like Al Pacino's cat

 

[SGB]

Not to hijack the thread but another incident has happened in my home town and i would like to know what you guys think (besides treo. We all know he'd hop in a car and hightail it outta there before the cops arrived) would be the proper course of action. This draws the line to where i think its best to hunker down behind a car and watch. I imagine by the time you hear the shots fired its over and he is trying to get away. No point in shooting after the fact because it wont do the lady any good, correct? Link Removed

Anyone shooting at people in a parking lot is a threat to everyone in that parking lot, ie an active shooter. The proper response would be entirely dictated by the physical relationship of the shooter to you and the shooters continued actions.

 

[Wyldekard]

Not to hijack the thread but another incident has happened in my home town and i would like to know what you guys think (besides treo. We all know he'd hop in a car and hightail it outta there before the cops arrived) would be the proper course of action. This draws the line to where i think its best to hunker down behind a car and watch. I imagine by the time you hear the shots fired its over and he is trying to get away. No point in shooting after the fact because it wont do the lady any good, correct? Link Removed

First, let me say the shooter is a coward in my opinion and I hope his eventual cellmate is well endowed, a nymphomaniac, and has a mean disposition.

The response of someone who has a CCW and is armed in this scenerio would depend a lot on state laws. While my gut reaction would be to draw and fire, I would not win at trial in my state. As noted by snipingshadow if the shooter had disengaged, was not actively firing or threatening to fire, and just seeking escape any justification for me to shoot has passed. Plus in a parking lot, there could be bystanders that would not be apparent to me if I was experiencing tunnel vision or behind a window in a store that could be wounded in an exchange of gunfire. I agree this is a situation where I would just have to try to be a good witness.

 

[Scouse]

These Ex or estranged Husband shootings take place everywhere.

An acquaintance of mine (He belonged to the same Gun Club, in Ontario Canada) waited for his Wife to go to work, shot her dead, then committed suicide.

Just so sad.

 

[CharlesMorrison]

Sorry to disappoint guys but I'm still here. I have been admonished by the mods and I did deserve it. I will also admit that I allowed problems in my personal life to get in the way.
I was way out of line in posting the comments that I posted. I am both embarrassed and sorry for stepping out of line such as I did.
I will sit on the sidelines and observe until I have something productive and rational to contribute to the conversation.