Bluesstringer....
See my response to navy ltcmdr as it also applies to you.
It doesn't apply to me at all. You know nothing about my level of training or my background or my knowledge of the law, and you've already proven that you know next to nothing about the subject of this thread, the Waffle House shooting in Spartanburg County, SC in Jan. of this year.
Read the entire article on use of force.
I started to and the very first line was a lie, so I wrote it off.
The first line of your link says:
In the United States, it is illegal to harm another person intentionally.
What a crock of crap that is. If some scumbag tries to rob me tonight while I'm at work, you can bet all your vast numbers of carry permits that he/they will suffer from intentional harm, and I'll come back home to my wife safe and sound and sleep like a baby after telling my truthful and fully
legal story to the cops. And who I am employed by has no bearing on the legality of such a shooting incident in my state. There's no "armed security guard license" here at all. Only my CWP qualifies me for the job. A robbery attempt on me would result in intentional harm inflicted on the robber whether I'm working in uniform or walkin' down the street walkin' the mutt, and both would be the exact same level of perfectly
legal.
And don't misconstrue what I'm saying. It's not that I
want any of that to happen, but I've prepared myself physically, tactically and emotionally for that eventuality, and I sought extensive training before I ever got this job to prepare myself for off-the-job preparedness, not so that I could carry, but so that I would do it in the most responsible manner possible. I don't need your link or
you giving me lectures about anything I come to this site to discuss, and my strong belief is that neither do the vast majority of participants here.
And I can't imagine how stupid you must think all us wannabe sheepdogs out here are, but you'd be wrong to think that most of us wouldn't notice that your link is a .
us website, and use of force laws originate and control from the
state level. I also noticed that "State Laws" is the very
last consideration that site offers its readers. That site is all but irrelevant to anything being discussed here.
Read all of my posts before making assumptions. It will explain better, who I am and where I come from.
All 9 of them? Not how it works pal. Perhaps you should've read this thread and known more of the facts of the Waffle House shooting before you posted a bunch of ignorant crap about it. I have read most of your posts anyway though. Your first post in this thread was so devoid of rationality that I decided to wait and see if the shooter himself would stop by to correct you. He did, but you didn't even know it. In that post, you said:
....Having read all of the responses to this thread, it is apparent that sides are drawn on how to respond given this scenario.
I tend to be one that would only involve myself if a perp entered the restaurant with shots fired or pointed a gun at me or my family. I am not a LEO nor do I want to be one.
As soon as this CC holder involved himself, he potentially made the situation worse and will have to pay a price. The monetary and emotional cost will last for years.
The bolded lines above suggest to me that there's some dishonesty going on here. If you had read
all the responses to this thread, you would've known that snipingshadow was the shooter, and that
his reply to the above post was relating
facts about this specific shooting, and not presenting a bunch of "what-ifs" as you accused him of in a subsequent
reply to him. You would have recognized his nickname and his post as a group of
facts if you were truly evaluating the replies in this thread
given this scenario if you had really read
all of the replies in it. You recognized neither though, and continued on your accusatory rant trying to twist his signature into indicating that he'd carelessly and cavalierly shoot a cop based on the
facts that he presented you about having shot an armed robber instead. You might have skimmed several of the pages of this thread, but there's no way that you read
all the responses, or if you did, your comprehension skills are severely lacking.
You got only one thing right in that post. Well, except for what you said you'd have done in the same circumstances, which is
nothing unless shots were already being fired or a gun was pointed directly at you or yours. Whoop-de-doo. What you got right about others though, is that there is an emotional cost to taking a life. Snipingshadow has acknowledged some experience with that, but he hasn't second-guessed his actions at all, and so far at least, neither has his Sheriff or any prosecutors. Otherwise, you got everything else wrong, and the code I posted earlier proves it. There will be no monetary price to pay for snipingshadow because his
state law holds him immune from it, proving also the irrelevancy of the .us link you gave as it applies to this thread.
I have no problem with use of deadly force when directly engaged. I have discussed these robbery type scenarios with several instructors. You need to know your State as they are not the same. I get to know every States law I am Licensed in, prior to entering that State.
Obviously, I
do know my state laws. I also *get* to know SC's state laws much better than you do, because, like NavyLCDR does on a very regular basis, I look 'em up when it's pertinent to the subject I'm discussing. Quite obviously also, snipingshadow knows the SC statute as he cited it long before I did, another thing you would've known if you had really read all of the responses in this thread.
The "bold" print was added by a responder to my comments, not by me.
You obviously misunderstood to which bolded text I was referring. You did write this didn't you?
I will make myself a good witness and notify law enforcement.
Blues
