What is ++P++? yeah the Rem golden saber are vary good from what i have been told. Yeah the black talon ( or the cop killer as the press calls it) said to have teflon coating on it to defeat body armor. LOL the funny thing is it has no such thing. What i don't get is the Fed round is a LEO only round ( LEO because of company rules not by law). So Dirt only sells to them to LEO but the SXT round is LEO only to but they sell to any one lol. I think i am going to go with Rem Golden but i cant find a site that sells them in 50 or 100 rounds. Only box's of 20. Walmart does not carry them lol.
+P+ ammunition is something that is loaded higher than the standard SAAMI specs to get better performance. Only use it if your firearm is rated for it or sparingly. You can wear out some firearms more quickly with the use of +P or +P+ ammunition. +P+ is only for 9mm, all other rounds are just loaded to +P. You'd probably have to go through an Internet vendor to get your desired ammunition by the case. Typically range/target ammo is available in boxes of 50 or 100 or a 250 round value pack for centerfire handgun. Factory centerfire personal protection ammunition can be available in boxes of 20, 25 or 50 depending on the round. You can buy a case consisting of 20 to 50 of the 20 or 25 round boxes. Some vendors will give you a discount for buying a lot of four or five boxes of 20 or 25. Again, whether a round is available in boxes of 20, 25 or 50 is dependant upon the manufacturer.
While I have some Federal and Winchester 9mm in +P+, I use it sparingly. There's also the rationale that you should practice with something comparable to your personal protection ammo. If you've never put +P(+) through your firearm, I wouldn't carry it. There's also the economic and availability aspect of using standard pressure personal protection rounds. I haven't had any issues carrying standard pressure 9mm. You're also dealing with the issue of the lifespan of your firearm being shortened by putting +P(+) through it.
I buy all of my personal protection ammunition online and keep a fairly large stock of it in my closet.
While we're on the subject of +P, here's a discussion I get into with my students and people who ask my advice on what round to choose especially when we get into revolvers.
I refuse to own a .38 special only revolver; I typically load my .357 magnums with .38 special +P. It's not going to hurt the revolver as it's designed for full power .357 magnum rounds. A former girlfriend of mine carries an older Charter Arms .38 special; it is not rated for +P so I told her to carry standard pressure .38 special rounds to get the maximum life out of the revolver. Charter Arms has stated that sparse use of +P ammunition should not affect the revolver, but they do not recommend it be given a steady diet of +P ammunition. Same with my exwife; I recommend to her a .357 magnum, but load it with .38 special +P. You'll get maximum life out of the firearm and have a pretty effective personal protection round.
Several ammo makers have .38 special standard pressure personal protection loads available. My bias being towards Winchester Silvertips because of the maturity of the round. Because the ammo industry is leaning towards .38 special +P over standard pressure. If you're in a jurisdiction where civil liability is an issue, IMO there are little civil liability issues IMO associated with choosing +P over standard pressure in any caliber providing you use factory ammunition. In fact, factory standard pressure .38 special personal protection loads are getting more difficult to find with better engineering and design used in modern firearms. We haven't seen the tough air or featherweight firearms made out of scandium or titanium until recently. I believe all current production .38 special revolvers are +P rated if I am not mistaken.
