money7west
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Thats exactly how I feel. My temper has gone down 1000 notches.
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Why Do You Carry Concealed?
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CharlesMorrison
Banned
My temperament is not dependent on whether I have a pistol or not...
YMMV
Just sayin.... Ya know?
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YMMV
Just sayin.... Ya know?
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uncle fester
New member
I've carried for years for many of the reasons listed above (+ once, long before CC was legal here, I was chased by an idiot waving a gun at me and the cops refused to put out a warrant for the guy. That started me down the path to carrying).
These days I carry because I'm older and sicklier than I once was and can no longer defend myself with other means. While I don't have a problem with being old and weak (I've earned it) I do refuse to be prey.
These days I carry because I'm older and sicklier than I once was and can no longer defend myself with other means. While I don't have a problem with being old and weak (I've earned it) I do refuse to be prey.
longslide10
New member
Simply because a cop is too heavy and when seconds count police are only minutes away. I am sure that has been overstated here too but I'm saying it again.
tommypotatoes
New member
I am too old to fight and too fat to run. I know that whenever something bad happens to anyone, the police can always be counted on to secure the crime scene, do a thorough investigation and write a detailed report. I look after my own and I can take care of myself.
Bluwizard1
New member
Why you really should conceal carry
Even thought I live in both a quiet town and quiet crime free neighborhood, I conceal carry at all times. You never know when someone will come into the area to cause trouble. By conceal carrying you know that you will always be prepared to defend yourself should the need ever arise. An open carry could be looked as a challenge, while carrying concealed poses no challenge. It simply ensures that you can protect yourself if your life or property of the life of another unexpectedly happens.
Even thought I live in both a quiet town and quiet crime free neighborhood, I conceal carry at all times. You never know when someone will come into the area to cause trouble. By conceal carrying you know that you will always be prepared to defend yourself should the need ever arise. An open carry could be looked as a challenge, while carrying concealed poses no challenge. It simply ensures that you can protect yourself if your life or property of the life of another unexpectedly happens.
You are exactly correct. The person openly carrying a handgun does look like a challenge. The vast majority of criminals are not looking for a challenge, they are looking for an easy target. Since carrying concealed poses no challenge, it's just common sense as to which target the criminal is going to choose to attack - the target less likely to pose a challenge. I would much rather the criminal never attack me or my family to begin with and I owe the concealed carry only people a debt of gratitude for dispatching all those criminals that decided it wasn't worth it to attack the guy they knew had a gun.
Rocketgeezer
New member
Open carry a challenge, OK so what, its proven a BG will bypass someone with a gun than try his luck, they will much sooner go after someone where they see no "challenge"
CharlesMorrison
Banned
Spoken by a truly non confrontational person.
AKA... A poosay.
Sounds like you would be afraid the the bad guy might just stroll on over, b!tch slap you and take your gun...
Sounds harsh, I know but your entire post is weak, just like your carry method.. Always on the defensive, never rocking the boat, going with the flow.... A sheeple.
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aacx22
Tested Selected Initiated
I don't think it automatically follows that if a BG sees a person OCing that they will all do one thing or the other.
If a BG is interested in stealing a gun, knowing that you have one could make you a target. BG generally will have an advantage due to GG not knowing his intentions... he can walk ahead to lay in wait.... he could try to sneak behind... he could call some friends to ambush... until he springs his attack, the ball is in his court. Maybe it will scare off some, but I don't imagine all will react the same way. One good thing about concealed, is that once BG acts, GG has a surprise of his own.
If a BG is interested in stealing a gun, knowing that you have one could make you a target. BG generally will have an advantage due to GG not knowing his intentions... he can walk ahead to lay in wait.... he could try to sneak behind... he could call some friends to ambush... until he springs his attack, the ball is in his court. Maybe it will scare off some, but I don't imagine all will react the same way. One good thing about concealed, is that once BG acts, GG has a surprise of his own.
Firefighterchen
OC for Tactical Advantage
Nothing is absolute, but the ratio of concealed carriers that have to defend themselves far outweighs the ratio of open carriers that have to defend themselves. Whatever the reason the bad guy is choosing his victims, he will most likely choose an unarmed victim, or a concealed carrier. It's that probability, that makes concealing my last option.
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Komondor
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I was wondering where the studies regarding the ratio of concealed carriers vs open carriers defending themselves comes from? I have studied some of John Lott's work and haven't seen such there. Is there somewhere else I can find this info? Thanks for your help.
Firefighterchen
OC for Tactical Advantage
http://thearmedcitizen.com
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How many times have you heard of an open carrier defending himself? How many times have you heard of a concealed carrier defending themselves? Are you able to add 2 + 2?
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DLeeHarley
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I believe Komondor is only trying to check out the real facts not disputing anything.
Dennis in Idaho
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Dennis in Idaho
"You'll always remember the Ride! The destination is great, don't get me wrong, but you'll ALWAYS Remember the Ride!"
aacx22
Tested Selected Initiated
Fair point. How did you get this metric though? I'd be interested in reading up on it. (Nevermind, I see you already provided a link)
Well, there is this:
http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/6.2/gun-facts-6-2-screen.pdf
Printed page 29:
While there may not be an actual study compiling the facts, as Firefighterchen stated, when you do read/see/hear stories where people defend themselves with a firearm there is a 99% chance that the firearm was hidden from the criminal before the defensive action was taken. Conservative estimates put the number of defensive uses of a firearm in the thousands per year. That is at least 3 per day across the country (and probably many times higher than that), and yet there are only 4 or 5 cases that the concealed carry only crowd can point to of a law abiding open carrying citizen that is not a police officer or security guard being the victim of a crime and those cases are spread out over a decade or more.
