Hey slowryder: Grew up in Queens and am familiar with the frantic pace of the LIE. Retired now and living in Charleston, SC where livin is easy and a lot less stressful. With all due respect to your post, I was concerned about some of your statements that tend to fly in the face of responsible CC. I understand this guy was out of control but your initial commnent about "pushing him out of the way" instead of a "what seems to be the problem" escalated the situation. If there had been witnesses to your comments (I'm sure your partner did not hear any of this) and it had gotten to the point of your use of your CCW--you may have had a problem. Lightly tapping his bumper also did not help anything. This forum has had numerous "what if" threads and posts and, as much as we all agree that we would like nothing better to do than "dispatch" the weird freaks out there, I would guess that 99% of us understand that CC means you control your emotions and actions and, in your circumstance call 911 (I understand that may be a joke on the LIE and in NYC), or just ignore and get away from the jerk--over a short period of time, I find it hard to believe that even on the LIE that could not have been done before you have a guy coming at you with a bat and you sitting there with a 380 ready to go. I may be missing some points of your post and, if I am wrong in my comments, I apologize, but other posts have gone over this stuff quite a lot and the concensus is, from my readings, when you are CC you turn the other cheek and get the heck out of there or never go there in the first place--you do everything to avoid escalation and you make sure there are witnesses to everything that clearly show the idiot started and escalated the situation and you had no other choice when facing imminent danger of severe bodily harm and/or death. Yelling back at the guy and tapping his bumper are not part of the equation.