Point shooting

[Bikenut]

I have to agree with you. What were the chances that a pedophile would enter our property from the woods in a rural farming community and murder our little guy? What life has taught me s that anything can happen. Boy scouts were right... be prepared.

Every time I see a post from you BC1... I am reminded of the heartbreaking tragedy you and your family has suffered. I cannot even imagine the anger, the sadness, the frustration, and the depth of sorrow you are enduring.

 

[Bikenut]

Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
So first you say you will confront the bad guy at the break in point. But can you get out of bed and get to that break in point before the bad guy has the opportunity to move around enough to not even be in the same room he broke into before you get there? And would you just rush to the break in point without clearing the distance in between your bed and that break in point?

I see what your biggest problem is, you just think that one size fits all, I guess I should have been more verbose with my reply, here goes, if I am sitting in my chair watching TV and someone kicks in the front door, I will confront him at the point of entry, if I am in bed and someone kicks in the front door, I will assume a defensive position and call the police. got it?? this is what I would do, I do not nor am I dispensing advise for others. If you and the cop wannabe want to play stealthy ninjas, have a great time I don't give a flying fig, I certainly am not going to make believe I am part of a SWAT team.

I see what your problem is... you just think that everyone's situation/circumstances are the same as yours. Got it.

 

[mappow]

No, I don't know the cop but my friend did. They sat there heckling and poking fun. He said as a policy they don't clear houses when an alarm goes off because there are so many false alarms. This was a false alarm. ADT indicated a glass-breakage alarm went off. They had checked around outside and saw no windows were broken. There was a bad thunderstorm that day and really loud booms can set-off glass breakage sensors. Should've had my cell phone.
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Dog mischief... once while I was working outside my (4 mos. old) German Shepard pup got out of his pen and went in the bathroom to play with water. Somehow he knocked the tub's water faucet lever on AND closed the stopper during his free-for-all. When I walked-in the house and saw this wet pup looking up at me I knew he did something. They have that "just pumped the neighbor's cat" look on their face. You're almost afraid to investigate.

I have a 5 year old female, 87 Lbs worth. And YES the look comes with the breed. Although trained, it took a couple "Go to Jesus meetings" for her to understand who the alpha is. A professional trainer of Sheppards told me both are great BUT....males will stay focused were females generally will not for long. Kind of reminds me of the wife, but I didn't say that. (Did I?)

 

[mappow]

so you are saying that you would enter your house knowing that there were dangerous people insider and not knowing where they were in that house? ok, good for you, I would wait for as long as it took for the cops to arrive and let them handle securing the home.

Can't address every scenario. My judgment would be made at the time of the event. As well as shoot don't shoot and or engage or don't. My call due to my ability and training per what is unfolding before me.

 

[wolf_fire]

if I am in my home when a break in occurs I will be forced to confront the intruder at the break in point, there is not going to be a house clearing.
why??? is putting your life at risk over your possessions really a wise move? maybe you think it is, I certainly don't. at the end of life we all wind up in the same sized hole and believe it or not your valued possessions cannot come for the ride.
as for your analogy, if you really feel that your driving places you are a high risk of being killed, STOP DRIVING!
same reply as last time, I will not enter into a situation that will put me into imminent danger especially when I have no idea where the threat will come from. if it takes the donut munchers an hour to respond, I'll wait outside for an hour.

balance of rant snipped

First, I'm not the one scared to go in my home, in addition, I'm not scared to drive. That analogy was for you. Since it is more likely you will die in your car versus being shot in your lifetime, why do you still drive? That was the question. Instead you asked me to stop driving. ????

It comes down to you trust your cops in your neck of the woods to do the honorable thing. I do not. Some of them have proven themselves untrustworthy and I do not know if the one that shows up to risk their life when it is actually my duty to protect me and my own, will be an honorable one or not. So in essence, I could have a potential burglar removed from my house only to be replaced by another one.

 

[apvbguy]

It comes down to you trust your cops in your neck of the woods to do the honorable thing. I do not.

since you play cop a lot, and your playmates are cops, you must have a good handle on this, I guess saying that your pig is not your pal is correct

 

[Warrior1256]

I have practiced point shooting for years and it works for me. I am not the greatest shot by any means but I can usually hit what I aim at.

 

[Firefighterchen]

since you play cop a lot, and your playmates are cops, you must have a good handle on this, I guess saying that your pig is not your pal is correct

Why would you want cops to clear your house if you think cops only play around?

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[Nick Burkhardt]

I went shooting with my LEO step-brother in-law, and he had a few more tips for me. We found out that my sweater makes for a lousy cover garment. Too clingy. Worked on speeding up my draw and breaking my square range bad habits. He said trying to get the perfect stance and perfect two handed grip was slowing me down. He had me do a lot of one handed pull (out of the holster), and point, press twice from 3-10 feet on an IPSC cardboard target. He also said any hit is a good hit since it helps you get away. It was a nice confidence builder.

 

[apvbguy]

I went shooting with my LEO step-brother in-law, and he had a few more tips for me. We found out that my sweater makes for a lousy cover garment. Too clingy. Worked on speeding up my draw and breaking my square range bad habits. He said trying to get the perfect stance and perfect two handed grip was slowing me down. He had me do a lot of one handed pull (out of the holster), and point, press twice from 3-10 feet on an IPSC cardboard target. He also said any hit is a good hit since it helps you get away. It was a nice confidence builder.

he gave you some good tips, one more tip would be to go for some training with a professional trainer

 

[wolf_fire]

since you play cop a lot, and your playmates are cops, you must have a good handle on this, I guess saying that your pig is not your pal is correct

Yes, I volunteer with our Sheriff's Reserve Division. Our Division gives back to the community by providing security at local events where they wouldn't be able to pay the local cops for the service. We also provide extra manpower in emergency situations where the Sheriff needs more bodies. The Sheriff is the only Constitutional law enforcement; all others are set up by the government. Because of my time in the Reserve Division, I've also had the opportunity to work next to and with other departments, other than than the Sheriff's Departments. The majority of cops do their job as they are supposed to. What disgusts and infuriates me, are the ones that don't. They look the same as all the other cops, they dress in the same type of uniform, and are given the same type of badge. Yet they became cops, not for the reason of helping the community, but for their own selfish and perverted motives. Because of this, you cannot tell a bad cop from a good cop. Being in the Reserve Division, I've gotten an inner glimpse of this and know that I cannot, as a citizen not in uniform, always trust the man in blue. Therefore, if there is something I can do myself, I will, and not trust a cop to do it for me.

Why does this continue to go on? It's because LE needs a unified image, so when a cop does something bad, stupid, or dishonorable, the majority of the time it gets covered up, or it becomes labeled as "justified".

So, with this information, do you really think I would know which type of cop would arrive when I call them? No one does. When I'm not in uniform, I'm not a cop, unlike cops that are paid and are considered on duty 24/7. So, it's not like I can waive a badge and say, "I'm one of you" and make sure they treat me as one of their own.

As for your snide comment "your playmates are cops"... no they aren't. My friends are my friends regardless of what circles they are in. The Reserve Division is looked down upon by the paid unionized cops. We do what we do because we want to give back to the community and don't need to be paid for it nor be part of their union. However, when we are in uniform, no one knows any different unless they ask for our LE ID.

Even without showing the inner glimpse into the world of LE, there are stories all the time where some jack booted thug with a badge has usurped his authority and trampled on citizen's rights, and even killed citizens. You didn't need my looking glass to know this. However, you continue to trust all those men in blue in NJ who are all upstanding and honorable. If this is truly the case, you are blessed to have that situation. If however, you don't know every cop in your area, chances are there are a few bad ones. Remember that the next time you call for one or are stopped in traffic by one.