On duty cop handcuffs 19 year old then rapes her in his squad car

[Deanimator]

The Chief feigning heartfelt concern knew of issues by this officer, and you may bet countless others.

To show how ludicrous these protestations of ignorance are, the Chicago Police Department claims to have known NOTHING about a home invasion, robbery, burglary and kidnapping ring operating INSIDE the department... for YEARS. These police declarations that they "don't know nuttin'" are as believable as the the claims by Germans living outside concentration camps that they "had no idea" what was going on.

I have many LEO friends, but you can't ignore criminal acts committed by criminal cops. I can't, and neither would my LEO friends.

In fact, it is DEMANDED not only that you ignore criminal acts committed by criminal cops, but that you pretend that those acts never happened. To this end, INVARIABLY, video evidence of police crimes, up to and including murder are subject to police attempts to conceal them from the public. The OVERWHELMING majority of Chicago cops I've heard weren't outraged by a 300lb. coward with a badge trying to stomp a 110lb. woman to death. They were sent into an incandescent rage that the video of that atrocity was shown "too much".

 

[vernsimpson]

And the LEO's wonder why the public does not trust them. Then is a question I have wondered about for some time now.

Why is it OK for the police to tape/film their encounters with the public but it is against the law (in some places) to film the police as encounter the public??? The LEOs say they need the tape for court, but so does the so called perp!

 

[Deanimator]

And the LEO's wonder why the public does not trust them.

One of the common answers from cops and groupies is, "A cop stole your girlfriend."

Others I've heard from cops and groupies include:

• You wanted to be a cop but couldn't.
• You hate authority.
• You're a "bleeding heart liberal".
• You're an anarchist.
• You need to "walk a mile in the cop's shoes." (There is of course NO reciprocal duty for him to walk in YOURS.)

The bottom line is that this is about establishing cops as an unaccountable social caste above mere citizens.

 

[aacx22]

I personally treat police the same way they treat their subjects..I don't know them...they haven't earned anything from me...I just want to go home at the end of the night...they are a complete stranger who's armed...they aren't a good guy until they prove it.

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I missed the part where you treat them all like criminals... Unless you are saying that you do not treat them all like criminals, and in that case... we agree.

 

[aacx22]

Is the Police Chief head of the police union?

I didn't think so.

So? You think he's powerless against the Union? Why did this cop get arrested?

 

[Deanimator]

So? You think he's powerless against the Union? Why did this cop get arrested?

"Powerless"? Don't know. En thrall to? Quite possibly.

Of course it's irrelevant to the point anyway. Regardless of what HE says, the union will back the cop to the hilt. They ALWAYS do.

 

[aacx22]

The Chief feigning heartfelt concern knew of issues by this officer, and you may bet countless others. If this department has an DIA, I hope the entire department comes under their scrutiny and investigation.

There is no "all cops are bad" mindset here. There is one of deep concern that these incidents are not reported, handled, or convicted enough. Duct tape seems to have been applied to police departments' officers mouths far too often.

I have many LEO friends, but you can't ignore criminal acts committed by criminal cops. I can't, and neither would my LEO friends.

Mugshots of cops who betrayed their oath and power are on the news here, nearly every night. The newscasts make these heinous deeds their priority to report, start to finish.

It's the one thing that MSM on our local level does right.

Pretty much, agree with all this. I'll add that the cop rapist will get a lot more news time than the cops that did a great job that day... so for us news watchers, it will always look worse than it is.

 

[aacx22]

"Powerless"? Don't know. En thrall to? Quite possibly.

Of course it's irrelevant to the point anyway. Regardless of what HE says, the union will back the cop to the hilt. They ALWAYS do.

Please feel free to provide links to when the union backs this rapist. I'm sure it will make the news if they do. Thanks.

 

[Deanimator]

Please feel free to provide links to when the union backs this rapist. I'm sure it will make the news if they do. Thanks.

Why would it make the news? It's about as unusual as dogs barking at night.

 

[aacx22]

Why would it make the news? It's about as unusual as dogs barking at night.

Okay, well... I'm not taking your word for it. If it happens, I'll be interested in seeing your proof. "Everyone knows that they always do that" will not suffice. Thanks in advance.

 

[Deanimator]

Okay, well... I'm not taking your word for it. If it happens, I'll be interested in seeing your proof. "Everyone knows that they always do that" will not suffice. Thanks in advance.

Have you ever seen a police union NOT support a cop, regardless of WHAT he was accused of?

 

[aacx22]

Have you ever seen a police union NOT support a cop, regardless of WHAT he was accused of?

Here's the problem. Earlier you asked why would it be in the news since its so common. Now you are asking me a question about how often I have seen a police union support a cop accused of a crime. But, if these things do not make the news since they are so common, like you said... how would I have ever known about their support... And further, how would you have?

I'll be honest, I do not remember reading any stories about police unions either supporting or not supporting accused police officers. Maybe there were some stories that I forgot about, but I don't remember which seems to support your earlier statement that the support or lack of support of the union probably doesn't make the news... but I am willing to bet if the police union supported someone that was accused of rape by the police chief himself that this would probably make the news. I am further willing to bet that this must not happen often since I don't remember ever seeing it in the news. Finally, I'd bet you haven't seen it either, or at least have very rarely seen it in the news and are simply spitting out your baseless antipolice biased opinion.

 

[Firefighterchen]

I missed the part where you treat them all like criminals... Unless you are saying that you do not treat them all like criminals, and in that case... we agree.

I treat criminals, strangers, and police the same, potentially armed people I do not know that I want to have contact with the least amount of time...or never if possible.

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[aacx22]

I treat criminals, strangers, and police the same, potentially armed people I do not know that I want to have contact with the least amount of time...or never if possible.

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So if someone burglarizes your home while you are away, when you find out about it do you just suck it up? I know you don't call a stranger or a criminal to talk about it.

 

[Firefighterchen]

So if someone burglarizes your home while you are away, when you find out about it do you just suck it up? I know you don't call a stranger or a criminal to talk about it.

Assuming my wife and I aren't home ...If the criminals can get past my wall, my bushes, my two Staffordshire terriers/German shepards, my automated lights, my locks, my alarm system (which calls complete strangers to come to my residence)...if they get past all that...they may have 30 min tops to grab all the stuff that's not expensive enough to care about...

What will I do then? I'll be obligated by my insurance company to get a police report...which will be filed by a complete stranger who I'll treat as a complete stranger. I'll be recording the investigation via my security system to make sure the complete stranger doesn't steal anything, in essence treating him as a possible criminal.

If my insurance company didn't obligate me to go through the pd, I wouldn't.

Suffice?

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[r1derbike]

To show how ludicrous these protestations of ignorance are, the Chicago Police Department claims to have known NOTHING about a home invasion, robbery, burglary and kidnapping ring operating INSIDE the department... for YEARS. These police declarations that they "don't know nuttin'" are as believable as the the claims by Germans living outside concentration camps that they "had no idea" what was going on.


In fact, it is DEMANDED not only that you ignore criminal acts committed by criminal cops, but that you pretend that those acts never happened. To this end, INVARIABLY, video evidence of police crimes, up to and including murder are subject to police attempts to conceal them from the public. The OVERWHELMING majority of Chicago cops I've heard weren't outraged by a 300lb. coward with a badge trying to stomp a 110lb. woman to death. They were sent into an incandescent rage that the video of that atrocity was shown "too much".

Chicago must be a hell-hole of debauchery and corruption. I visited my grandparents there once, 50 years ago. I live in Northwest Arkansas, and while we have political and LEO atrocities, and gang activity due to an exploding population, the Mafia style corruption between so-called servants and the public trough hasn't materialized. Different place, different culture.

The closest I got to an altercation with an LEO was when I pulled into a Wendy's parking space next to a cruiser, and the cop said he was saving that place for his bud, who'd be there shortly. I said, "tough, I got here first". He just looked at me funny, as if wearing that badge was a shoe-in for parking space entitlement.

I've seen enough on the net, to make me have an undetectable video camera on me, and it gets placed in the car when I return. I've lived here 37 years without witnessing or becoming a victim, but who knows what tomorrow will bring? An episode with a white van in my drive, and a sweaty lady at the front door claiming to want to clean our carpets for free, prompted me to augment my single sidearm with another, and two longarms. Wouldn't have stood a chance against multiple perps. My wife is also armed at home now, but will not touch my longarms.

Anyway, metro areas being the crime infested cesspools they are (lived in Annapolis, and routinely traveled to Baltimore and D.C.), I left very quickly.

I'd like to see at least one Serpico in every metro precinct, but times have changed.

 

[aacx22]

Assuming my wife and I aren't home ...If the criminals can get past my wall, my bushes, my two Staffordshire terriers/German shepards, my automated lights, my locks, my alarm system (which calls complete strangers to come to my residence)...if they get past all that...they may have 30 min tops to grab all the stuff that's not expensive enough to care about...

What will I do then? I'll be obligated by my insurance company to get a police report...which will be filed by a complete stranger who I'll treat as a complete stranger. I'll be recording the investigation via my security system to make sure the complete stranger doesn't steal anything, in essence treating him as a possible criminal.

If my insurance company didn't obligate me to go through the pd, I wouldn't.

Suffice?

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Nicely. You configured your alarm system to call the police, so it's at least some sort of acknowledgement that they are something more than a stranger, even if you don't trust them.

 

[Firefighterchen]

Nicely. You configured your alarm system to call the police, so it's at least some sort of acknowledgement that they are something more than a stranger, even if you don't trust them.

No it calls my security provider. They call the police, or fire, or ems. They are still complete strangers calling more complete strangers. If I could, I'd have it call my neighbor who I do trust. Unfortunately, law enforcement only protects other police when it comes to excessive force and raping a handcuffed 19 yo....and they would most likely shoot my neighbor who is defending my home...so I'll leave my neighbors out of it.

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[Firefighterchen]

Every job I have ever held, had an orientation that told us to act responsible, respectable, and mind our manners because we represent the company.

Like it or not, police officers represent the department. This rapist represents the pd, accurately so since the chief didn't act on all of the previous complaints.

I don't trust car salesman, even all the ones I have never met.

I dont trust mechanics to tell me the truth about what's wrong with my car.

Enough of them have built the reputation they hold.

Police are no different.

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[aacx22]

No it calls my security provider. They call the police, or fire, or ems. They are still complete strangers calling more complete strangers. If I could, I'd have it call my neighbor who I do trust. Unfortunately, law enforcement only protects other police when it comes to excessive force and raping a handcuffed 19 yo....and they would most likely shoot my neighbor who is defending my home...so I'll leave my neighbors out of it.

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Okay, I was digging to see if you were inconsistent, but it does not appear to be the case. I disagree with you, but can't fault your honesty.