Ringo
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National concealed carry reciprocity act of 2017
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Ringo
A WATCHMAN
Says the man who hates the God that he claims doesn't exist. :wacko:
XD40scinNC
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I'm out of crayons.......... too much stupidity
BluesStringer
Les Brers
Only from a secular viewpoint.leasantry:
I know you believe that, but it's not true in the context of our exchange.
God is either pro-life or He ain't. I have the utmost faith that He is.
Trump is either pro-life or he ain't. He literally proved that he ain't by signing a bill that fully funds the #1 abortion provider in the nation for at least another six months, though I admit that I'm a bit fuzzy on whether it's longer than that or not. Let's just say it's six months. That's funding that contributes to another ~150,000 abortions (probably quite a few more than that, but just ball-parking it here) in just the (assumed) six-month period of this specific bill.
You said "it" had nothing to do with Planned Parenthood. In so saying, you seem to also be saying that God has no problem with Trump's signature appearing on a bill that will contribute to the murder of somewhere in the neighborhood of (at least) 150,000 babies. I find that logic flawed, because if it's true and accurate, it means that I am actually more pro-life than God. That is the logical conclusion of your flawed logic, which is precisely why I don't believe it to be true. It simply can't be true that Trump's support for taxpayer-funded abortion "has nothing to do with" His use of the man as the leader of this country.
Logically, God is showing us that Trump is no different than any of the other liars, betrayers, usurpers and/or tyrants throughout the history of government. Trump spent all but the last six or seven years of his adult life as a NY liberal. His current support for baby-killing proves he still is one. If God is using Trump to slow down the onset of the NWO and/or to re-establish moral solvency in this country, then why would He neglect to use him by guiding his hand to veto a bill with funding for baby-killing in it? The logical answer is that Trump is not working for God, he's working for himself, and always has been.
Blues
niceshootintex
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I can tell you one thing. Ann Coulter has been all in on Trump up until now but after his recent bill signing, the non funding of the wall, the funding of PP, the ignoring of DACA, and the due process comment, she was dead up in his keester at a campus speech either last night or the night before. The people that voted for him outside his base AND his base are paying attention. Even non politicians that become politicians become part of the swamp eventually it seems.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/w...ou-she-really-turns-just-ask-trump-2018-03-28
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Ringo
A WATCHMAN
We didn't elect a pastor in chief. True,Trump is no different than any of the other liars, betrayers, usurpers and/or tyrants throughout the history of government. Trump is not "working" for God. Trump is being "used" by God to escalate End Times prophecy surrounding ISRAEL pertaining to Jerusalem (Psalm 83/Isaiah 17 - Zechariah 12:3 - Zechariah 12:9 - Ezekiel 38-39). God isn't going to cleanse America or end abortion through Trump or any other living human being on this planet. God is going to judge America, not change it. Christ said that the generation that is witness to the re-birth of ISRAEL would not pass away until ALL of End Time prophecy be fulfilled. As I've said a hundred times to deaf ears on this forum, we're already 70 years into this Last Generation (1948-2028). If you believe the Bible , then you must know that ALL of End Time prophecy - the Rapture, the 7 years of the Tribulation, and the 2nd coming of Christ - will be fulfilled within the next 10 years (Fig Tree Prophecy) . No one wants to hear or believe anything concerning judgement, only about love. The Bible is 1/3 prophecy, you know, prophecy? Prophecy that no one reads or attempts to understand because it might ruin their weekend or future plans with the grand kids? Yea, that prophecy. And sorry to disappoint anyone but Christ spoke ten times more about judgement and HELL than Heaven and love, and for good reason.
Zechariah harped about the Second Coming of Jesus to occur at a time when Jerusalem is the capital city of Israel once again, a time when the powers of the world will come against her to fight her. Trump declaring Jerusalem the capital of Israel should have set the hairs on the back of every Christian’s neck on end. Goosebumps should have formed on our arms and sent a shiver down our spines. The end is near. We are literally witnessing the beginning of the end. In June of last year, Prophecy in the News magazine published an article quoting the Pope as calling for a ‘new global political authority.’ Every President since Bush Sr. has called for a ‘new world order’ except Donald Trump. He's pushing the ‘America First’ agenda. This flies in the face of the globalists, and so they must get rid of him. He's a man, just a man. He is sinful like all men, but make no mistake, God tells us in Daniel 4:25..“That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.” Look at the last line; the Highest rules the kingdom of men, and He gives it to whomever He will. No one becomes a political leader except with God allowing it. This includes Mr. Putin in Russia, Her Majesty in England, and even our Mr. Trump in America. These persons are in place to do God’s will and to prepare the way for Jesus to return.
Zechariah harped about the Second Coming of Jesus to occur at a time when Jerusalem is the capital city of Israel once again, a time when the powers of the world will come against her to fight her. Trump declaring Jerusalem the capital of Israel should have set the hairs on the back of every Christian’s neck on end. Goosebumps should have formed on our arms and sent a shiver down our spines. The end is near. We are literally witnessing the beginning of the end. In June of last year, Prophecy in the News magazine published an article quoting the Pope as calling for a ‘new global political authority.’ Every President since Bush Sr. has called for a ‘new world order’ except Donald Trump. He's pushing the ‘America First’ agenda. This flies in the face of the globalists, and so they must get rid of him. He's a man, just a man. He is sinful like all men, but make no mistake, God tells us in Daniel 4:25..“That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.” Look at the last line; the Highest rules the kingdom of men, and He gives it to whomever He will. No one becomes a political leader except with God allowing it. This includes Mr. Putin in Russia, Her Majesty in England, and even our Mr. Trump in America. These persons are in place to do God’s will and to prepare the way for Jesus to return.
You should read the Bible. It condones a number of valid reasons for anger. The idea that those who believe in God can not or should not be angry is an ignorant misnomer. It never says, "Don't be angry." It does say, "In your anger, do not sin" and "be slow to anger" i.e. don't be a hothead.
Actually, the "Tenets of Atheism" is a marvelous demonstration of inherent logical inconsistency, at least for any atheist who ever says they hate God.
So, now you're lumping all God-fearing Christians, Jews, Sikhs, and others who valiantly and bravely defend our country in with the religious zealots behind 9/11?
Gee... Bigot much?
XD40scinNC
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It's explained very clearly in my signature line.....
Ringo
A WATCHMAN
The only thing very clear about your signature line is that it's very unclear.
Well, if that's the case, then, ignorant much? Seriously, dude. Your sig line is as bigoted as it gets, calling by far mostly good people "evil." Rather pathetic.
Sure, free speech. I get it. You slam people like me. ^^^This^^^ is my free speech response. The only difference is that my response is based on fact, not blind, blanket bigotry.
XD40scinNC
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Then you need to pay closer attention to the actions of some people based on their religious beliefs.
Everyone who does things "in the name of God" will be held accountable by God himself. In the meantime, if those things violate our laws, then We the People, throughout our elected governments, should hold them accountable, bringing them to justice, if necessary. If they don't, then we hold the government accountable.
That's our Constitution, federal law, and local, state, and federal laws. They work fairly well, provided We the People do our job and remind politicians that they serve us and at our pleasure, not the other way around.
It would be nice, however, if you didn't lump all believers into the same category as whoever tinkled in your cup. Do you judge all gun owners by the actions of one or even a dozen mass shooters?
Of course not. If you would, please extend the same courtesy to us.
Thank you.
XD40scinNC
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That is covered in the bolded portion of my signature.
Actually gun owners take a much higher road compared to many religious followers, as many of "the good religious followers" do not hesitate at all in expressing their bigotry and hate toward others with differing views, skin color, gender, or sexual preferences.... or they are just not good people, merely using the cloak of religion as a disguise.
Yeah I can see some of that, a lot of people use religion as an excuse for violence. Jihadist's for instance, who use a few lines of their book to justify extreme values in a normally calm and embracing religion. There are sects in every long established religion who seem to veer radically from their mainstream religion. Still it does not take a organized religion to promote organized violence. Witness the recent YouTube shooter who was of the "Animal Rights Religion" oh she may have been of another religion also, but she was acting for Animal Rights.
Likewise it is easy enough to move a good many violent episodes to a "Agenda" based religion opposed to general organized religion.
But the big thing in my mind is that you guys have Hijacked this thread! If you want to continue your argument start your own thread.
Likewise it is easy enough to move a good many violent episodes to a "Agenda" based religion opposed to general organized religion.
But the big thing in my mind is that you guys have Hijacked this thread! If you want to continue your argument start your own thread.
Well, it passed the House. Seems to be waiting for something. Perhaps for members of Congress to get back in session.
By the way, this is a wonderful justification of why hard roll call (recorded) votes should be taken on every contentious issue.
190-236 against by Yeas and Nays.
231-198 FOR by recorded vote.
Apparently, some vote-counters have selective hearing.
By the way, this is a wonderful justification of why hard roll call (recorded) votes should be taken on every contentious issue.
190-236 against by Yeas and Nays.
231-198 FOR by recorded vote.
Apparently, some vote-counters have selective hearing.
BluesStringer
Les Brers
That passage was in 2017. Pretty sure it has to be reintroduced, make it through committee, be debated and voted on again. IIRC, the Las Vegas concert shooting made the Congress-critters slow-roll the legislation, and it stalled out in the Senate.
Blues
Hmm... How convenient that a previously non-problem person suddenly snapped...
I still don't get why people back off gun-supporting legislation when things like this happen, as they point to the need for greater prevalence of armed carry.
BluesStringer
Les Brers
Not sure what you're trying to imply, but the discussion concerning national reciprocity legislation on this forum started at least as far back as March of 2015, and many valid reasons were offered in opposition to it by the most vociferous Second Amendment advocates on the site within the 1,336 replies in that thread. Maybe you should read opposing viewpoints before trying to tag opponents as "backing off gun-supporting legislation" due to either one jackwagon going off the rails, or a government conspiracy, whichever it is you think was "convenient" for whomever you think actually committed the mass murder.
Blues
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