whodat2710
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Wrong, the unbiased media is what is part of the system. The agenda driven biased media is as bad as no news at all.
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BluesStringer
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Nonsense. A free media is just as free to be wrong as they are to be right. It's up to the individual to be able to discern the difference. Show us where in the Constitution it restricts bias, ideology, faith, party affiliations or anything else from entering the producers of media product, any more than the free thoughts and expressions of non-media types is restricted. I'll wait.
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whodat2710
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I am saying that the media that used to be the watchdog of the people, with investigative journalists (the ones that made people like Sharpton and Pelosi cringe when 60 minutes showed up at the office) are now bought and paid for by the very people they used to hound for the facts. You have reporters being shut down for actually doing investigative journalism that uncovers facts contrary to the agenda of the station.
'Mainstream media outlets cover up for President Obama and kill unfavorable stories': Bombshell claims made by former CBS reporter in explosive new book | Daily Mail Online
What is wonderful is that you have the politicians trying to legislate free speech away from the small market and on-line media and restrict it to the bought and paid for propagandists.
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And it all goes back to the progressive-liberal-socialist takeover of the universities that used to be known for their journalism programs.
'Mainstream media outlets cover up for President Obama and kill unfavorable stories': Bombshell claims made by former CBS reporter in explosive new book | Daily Mail Online
What is wonderful is that you have the politicians trying to legislate free speech away from the small market and on-line media and restrict it to the bought and paid for propagandists.
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And it all goes back to the progressive-liberal-socialist takeover of the universities that used to be known for their journalism programs.
BluesStringer
Les Brers
You didn't say that today's journalism just sucks, you said I was flat out wrong about a statement I made. I did, however, say that I think the media is full of crap, but that doesn't make me wrong about the statement that, "The free media is part of the system too! Do you really not get that? It's right there in the 1st Amendment!" That was in response to, "I trust the system just fine as long as the media keeps their nose out of it. They beat race so hard into every report that it has now become a matter of guilty=justice, not guilty=racist." You can't make the media "keep their nose out of it" and maintain their right to be wrong, any more than you can keep yours or my opinions restricted from the public square, no matter how right or how wrong they may be.
Bottom line, this isn't a story about the media, it's about justifiable or not justifiable homicide. That's all as far as I'm concerned.
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Courtney.cj.chen
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1) An acquaintance who lives in the Ferguson school district said that she received a letter from the school district stating that they asked that the indictment announcement be announced on a weekend or after 5pm for the sake of the school kids. And this was agreed upon.
2) Ferguson police chief is expected to step down. St. Louis county chief will take over management.
http://fox2now.com/2014/10/28/ferguson-police-chief-expected-to-step-down/
2) Ferguson police chief is expected to step down. St. Louis county chief will take over management.
http://fox2now.com/2014/10/28/ferguson-police-chief-expected-to-step-down/
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r1derbike
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How's he gonna wipe without dropping those wine bottles?
CharlesMorrison
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Very, very carefully!!!
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He uses the wine bottle over his droopies.
S&W645
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Standard procedure. It also won't be announced without the police already being alerted by about an hour that the verdict/indictment is going to be announced.
BluesStringer
Les Brers
Literally just stumbled on this. Wasn't searching or reading about anything having to do with Brown/Wilson/Ferguson, just saw a headline and followed the link.
The body of the article notes that they aren't sure if the grand jury investigation in question initiated before or after the Brown shooting. If it was after, I would say it's a suspect allegation. If before, Darren Wilson may have more problems than just the Brown shooting to contend with. Regardless of that though, cases are being dropped because he was the arresting officer and is not being required by his department to come out of hiding and testify in those cases. Not saying that's good or bad or right or wrong, just noting a part of the story. Also, the story is more than a month old, so there may be more current information about it than I have here. Here ya go:
The body of the article notes that they aren't sure if the grand jury investigation in question initiated before or after the Brown shooting. If it was after, I would say it's a suspect allegation. If before, Darren Wilson may have more problems than just the Brown shooting to contend with. Regardless of that though, cases are being dropped because he was the arresting officer and is not being required by his department to come out of hiding and testify in those cases. Not saying that's good or bad or right or wrong, just noting a part of the story. Also, the story is more than a month old, so there may be more current information about it than I have here. Here ya go:
ByCrimesider StaffCBS/APSeptember 29, 2014, 6:04 PM
Cop in Ferguson shooting faces grand jury in 2nd case
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Officer Darren Wilson at a City Council meeting in Ferguson, Mo., Feb. 11, 2014 AP Photo/City of Ferguson
Cop in Ferguson shooting faces grand jury in 2nd case
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Officer Darren Wilson at a City Council meeting in Ferguson, Mo., Feb. 11, 2014 AP Photo/City of Ferguson
CLAYTON, Mo. - The grand jury impaneled to hear evidence against the suburban St. Louis police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown will also be hearing another case against the same officer.
A county judge on Monday approved a request by prosecutors to let the grand jury review a 2013 drug case in which the arresting officer was Darren Wilson, the Ferguson police officer who fatally shot the 18-year-old Brown last month.
An attorney for Christopher Brooks alleges Wilson "roughed up" his client after he refused to hand over the keys to a locked car parked in his grandmother's driveway, where police say they found drug paraphernalia and several ounces of pot.
Defense attorney Nick Zotos wants the marijuana distribution charge against Brooks dismissed because he doesn't expect Wilson, who did not attend the preliminary hearing, to show up in court.
"Wilson is compromised as a witness," said Zotos, who opposed the request by Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch's office to shift the drug case to a panel that meets behind closed doors.
It wasn't clear whether Brooks made the allegation against Wilson before or after Michael Brown was killed, and the prosecutor's office provided no immediate comment.
Wilson, 28, received a Ferguson City Council commendation for his role in Brooks' arrest in February 2013.
A police union attorney who has spent decades representing members of law enforcement in court told The Associated Press Monday that he represents Wilson, who is under a grand jury investigation over whether he used excessive force in the August shooting death of Brown.
James P. Towey, general counsel for the Missouri Fraternal Order of Police and a former general counsel for the St. Louis Police Officers Association, said Wilson may be willing to publicly discuss the case in the future. He declined to detail the whereabouts of Wilson, who has gone into hiding since Brown's shooting death, which led to violent protests, hundreds of arrests, the summoning of the Missouri National Guard for security and international attention.
Prosecutor McCulloch has said he expects the grand jury to complete its work on the Brown shooting by mid-October or early November, though its term has been extended until January.
A county judge on Monday approved a request by prosecutors to let the grand jury review a 2013 drug case in which the arresting officer was Darren Wilson, the Ferguson police officer who fatally shot the 18-year-old Brown last month.
An attorney for Christopher Brooks alleges Wilson "roughed up" his client after he refused to hand over the keys to a locked car parked in his grandmother's driveway, where police say they found drug paraphernalia and several ounces of pot.
Defense attorney Nick Zotos wants the marijuana distribution charge against Brooks dismissed because he doesn't expect Wilson, who did not attend the preliminary hearing, to show up in court.
"Wilson is compromised as a witness," said Zotos, who opposed the request by Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch's office to shift the drug case to a panel that meets behind closed doors.
It wasn't clear whether Brooks made the allegation against Wilson before or after Michael Brown was killed, and the prosecutor's office provided no immediate comment.
Wilson, 28, received a Ferguson City Council commendation for his role in Brooks' arrest in February 2013.
A police union attorney who has spent decades representing members of law enforcement in court told The Associated Press Monday that he represents Wilson, who is under a grand jury investigation over whether he used excessive force in the August shooting death of Brown.
James P. Towey, general counsel for the Missouri Fraternal Order of Police and a former general counsel for the St. Louis Police Officers Association, said Wilson may be willing to publicly discuss the case in the future. He declined to detail the whereabouts of Wilson, who has gone into hiding since Brown's shooting death, which led to violent protests, hundreds of arrests, the summoning of the Missouri National Guard for security and international attention.
Prosecutor McCulloch has said he expects the grand jury to complete its work on the Brown shooting by mid-October or early November, though its term has been extended until January.
Courtney.cj.chen
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To my knowledge- the suspect and his grandmother or mother went on local news and made these allegations after the Michael Brown incident. When the brown shooting occurred- the Chris brooks matter was played on a news reel for about a day- approx. a week after the shooting.
BluesStringer
Les Brers
The article is dated Sept. 29. The shooting happened on Aug. 9. That's a little more than seven weeks in between, and it was still in the news at that time.
Nothing implied by asking, but where does your "knowledge" about the timing of the allegations come from?
Courtney.cj.chen
Courtney
I just told you where my knowledge came from. They came from watching a local news reel after the shooting.
If you asked a question regarding if the allegations were made by brooks before or after the brown shooting- but then stated the article was dated before the shooting- then you answered you own question.
The reel was replayed by several different local news channels. <-- to my knowledge.
If you look up articles regarding Wilson's involvement with the brooks case- in articles dated before the brown incident- it has all been Wilson's involvement and how it merited him an award. I have yet to find an article where brooks filed an official dispute. And six days ago the charge against brooks was dropped anyways because Wilson couldn't show up- being that he was the main witness regarding the matter.
If you asked a question regarding if the allegations were made by brooks before or after the brown shooting- but then stated the article was dated before the shooting- then you answered you own question.
The reel was replayed by several different local news channels. <-- to my knowledge.
If you look up articles regarding Wilson's involvement with the brooks case- in articles dated before the brown incident- it has all been Wilson's involvement and how it merited him an award. I have yet to find an article where brooks filed an official dispute. And six days ago the charge against brooks was dropped anyways because Wilson couldn't show up- being that he was the main witness regarding the matter.
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ezkl2230
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DOJ IS NOT GOING TO FILE CIVIL RIGHTS CHARGES AGAINST OFFICER WILSON!!! They have concluded that the evidence does not suport bringing charges against him.
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Michael Brown’s Parents to Speak at UN
Life Is Good. :victory:
Life Is Good. :victory:
BluesStringer
Les Brers
If that's the standard by which we measure "legitimate" discussion, then ~320 million Americans must never discuss (or argue as the case may be) about any event that they weren't witness to or directly involved in.
Such a standard, if respected, would invalidate the very nature of discussion forums related to current events. It would make the free press the only "legitimate" source of information sharing about current events. It would stifle free speech and free thought, and scrutiny of government agencies by the public at large, leaving only government and media to give us our opinions.
How long have you hated the fact that people are free to discuss current events?
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whodat2710
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Has midterm election coverage made the race riots in Ferguson not worth covering? Or perhaps they aren't killing whitey in retaliation?
Ha! I respect your right to discuss this as you please and would fight for it.
But I also claim my right to free speech in saying that this debate has bogged down in persona attacks and "he said she said"
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