The same is sometimes said of CC as well. In large crowds, it's more likely for someone to brush up against you accidentally, and "feel" you piece. Now, some won't associate that hard feeling with a firearm, and some will. And then there's always pick pockets.Nobody said it would not happen, the question is how much would it happen if people started to OC. Like stated above, even the police get robbed of their guns. I still believe that OCing has it's place, just no in big crowds.
If I can't put some basic faith in my fellow man, why bother at all. :smile:I admire your optimism and faith in mankind. I could be proven wrong, but I firmly believe I'm Back is an untruthful post aimed to prove a point on this thread. The irony of the circumstances and timing are just too great to ignore. Try to find a news story on line about someone in the state of Indiana being shot on the night of the 16 January or even 17 January. I've checked on Google and multple Indiana Newspaper web sites. You won't find one. Of course that alone doesn't prove anything. However, when you combine the timing of his comments on this thread with the holes in his I'm Back story with the lack of a news story, I say you can draw only one conclusion. If I am proved wrong, I will publicly apologize on this site. However, until then I will continue to say that the I'm Back thread is false and find it troubling that he is drumming up sympathy for it. Again, I call them like I see them.
Now, some won't associate that hard feeling with a firearm, and some will.
Shh. Don't tell everyone!!! :wink:Dang it, BGA, I thought it was just that you liked me a lot... :biggrin:
If I can't put some basic faith in my fellow man, why bother at all.
First, I'd be interested in what YOU found. I tried searching, and could find nothing, which, maybe a reason for concern, but since stuff like this happens, I'm not too surprised that I could not find any evidence.When I first read I'm Back I initially had a basic faith that Tatt was telling the truth. That was until I stumbled across this thread which provoked a since (sense) of skeptisicm in me that something was not right. I did a little research and discovered what I beleive to be the actual truth of the matter. Maybe Tatt will "recover" soon and be able to post an explaination or even provide some proof to his claims. I stand ready to apoligize should I be wrong in this matter, but I don't think that's what we will find.
And to get us back on topioc, I don't OC. I choose for my carry peice to remain unknown to the general public, but I don't care if one legally OCs where they can. More power to them. It's not a case where I think someone will specifically rob me of my firearm. I just like the element of surprise. It's a fundamental of the offensive mindset.
It's not a case where I think someone will specifically rob me of my firearm. I just like the element of surprise. It's a fundamental of the offensive mindset.
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It's not a case where I think someone will specifically rob me of my firearm. I just like the element of surprise. It's a fundamental of the offensive mindset.
Which is very true, and interesting, considering that we carry for defensive reasons.
. Situational awareness is always important. Checking your six should always be done.
Open carrying takes away the surprise and criminals choose to use more force usually.
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I just like the element of surprise. It's a fundamental of the offensive mindset.
The "element of surprise" is not now, and never in the history of the world has been, a defensive tactic. Surprise is exclusively an offensive tactic. What you’re calling “the element of surprise” is nothing more than damage control. You are reacting to someone surprising you.
The "element of surprise" is not now, and never in the history of the world has been, a defensive tactic. Surprise is exclusively an offensive tactic. What you’re calling “the element of surprise” is nothing more than damage control. You are reacting to someone surprising you.
Yes, I think we can agree that while we all carry for defensive purposes, the second our gun comes out of the holster we will be in the offensive frame of mind. Take the fight to the bad guy as required and within the law.
I've started informally polling my more hardened arrestees and asking them if they would attempt to rob a visibly armed man (open carrying) and the universal answer has been, "F*** No!" Then I asked what if they wanted the gun? All still said "F***No,!" as they can easily buy one for $50-$75 bucks on the street without the threat of failure.
I've started informally polling my more hardened arrestees and asking them if they would attempt to rob a visibly armed man (open carrying) and the universal answer has been, "F*** No!" Then I asked what if they wanted the gun? All still said "F***No,!" as they can easily buy one for $50-$75 bucks on the street without the threat of failure.
one of the beauties of safety bullet is that if someone stole your gun and they pulled back the slide, they would see brass and asume it was loaded. Upon firing the safety bullet at you they would lock up the gun and your life would have been saved, smart hu!