is .380 enough gun?

[CharlesMorrison]

I'd love to but it will blow up my TCP.
Taurus says BB is a no no.

 

[titon]

u might bust bones, IF you hit them, but the most likely hit on bone is a rib, and a busted rib, while painful, is NOT incapactating. While you can "bluff" as well with a 380 as with anything else, the same is true of .22lr, so why spend the money on 380 ammo? when you shoot animals with the 380, the effect is the same as a .22lr hp from a rifle. Ie, not much, if the critter is bigger or tougher than a cottontail rabbit. granted, the same is true of .45 ball, but at least we CAN get much more effective ammo in the .45, like Corbon's 165gr PowRball, at 1200 fps, 5" barrel, and 1050 fps in the Defender and Detonics length barrels. Nothing you can fire safely in a blowback 380 offers much power at all. In the locked breech ones, with handloads, you can acutally have a more effective load than .45 ball, provable on animals.

 

[cluznar]

Saw a video online of a guy down south somewhere. He was walking thru a field and came upon a Wild Boar. The Boar started coming at him and all he had was a .380 so he pulled it and shot the Boar once dropping it, then walked over and put another round in it. :triniti:

 

[trainor]

Sounds to me like bs. hogs don't attack you, but they do sometimes not see very well and run at you in confusion. He must have gotten very lucky and hit it in the eyeball, to make a 380 suffice, if it ever truly happened as described above.

 

[Stan45]

I'd love to but it will blow up my TCP.
Taurus says BB is a no no.

Is that information that they have with the gun, or was it something a company rep said?

 

[901-Memphis]

Saw a video online of a guy down south somewhere. He was walking thru a field and came upon a Wild Boar. The Boar started coming at him and all he had was a .380 so he pulled it and shot the Boar once dropping it, then walked over and put another round in it. :triniti:

Maybe the boar was jacked up on amphetamines

 

[9026543]

Sounds to me like bs. hogs don't attack you, but they do sometimes not see very well and run at you in confusion. He must have gotten very lucky and hit it in the eyeball, to make a 380 suffice, if it ever truly happened as described above.

Have you ever happened upon a wild sow with a litter of pigs? If you ever do you might change your mind about hogs not attacking. Spending 2 hours up a tree to keep your ass from being eaten up is not fun. I have seen many rural folks kill hogs at butchering time with just a 22 Short and it surely is a lot less powerful than a 380.

 

[kerb]

so who aims at the arm? What makes you think that an upper arm bone, shattered by a bullet, lets the guy keep attacking? I guarantee that any power that the bullet still has when it strikes the far side skin is NOT usable to stop the guy. I've shot hundreds of animals with the various loads, and most jhps don't expand at ALL in flesh and blood, guys. It's a joke.

So you go hunting with JHP? Interesting choice of rounds for that purpose. LOL!
So I'm curious.. In your experience, what material does cause a JHP to expand?

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[Simple_Life]

Hi everyone, I just wanted to say that I have owned two 380's in my life time (a Berretta many years ago, and now a Ruger) both of whch have served me well. The Ruger is a bit smaller than I would have liked, but was a B.D. gift from my son. Personally though, I am saving for the Springfield DX9 as I have handled one and fell in love with it. However, I have no doubt with the ammo I have that my 380 would save me.

 

[Stan45]

Sounds to me like bs. hogs don't attack you, but they do sometimes not see very well and run at you in confusion. He must have gotten very lucky and hit it in the eyeball, to make a 380 suffice, if it ever truly happened as described above.

Maybe this boar did not read your post?

Wild boar attacks four people in Berlin
Authorities say they shot and killed a 120 kilogram (265-pound) wild boar after it attacked and injured four people including a police officer in a residential neighborhood. Police said Tuesday the boar bit a 74-year-old man on the back and leg, and knocked a 74-year-old woman to the ground and injured her hip on Monday afternoon in the Charlottenburg area of the capital. It also bit a 24-year-old woman before she climbed aboard a parked car to safety. All three were treated in a hospital.

Police say when a police officer arrived, the wild boar attacked him and cut his leg before he pulled his gun and killed the animal with "multiple shots."

 

[CharlesMorrison]

Is that information that they have with the gun, or was it something a company rep said?

From Taurus. I called to check after another posted pics of his TCP after a couple of mags of BB. It fractured his slide right at the ejection port.
Taurus recommended to me not to use it as it exceeds specs of the pistol.
I actually have been using Aguila 90grn hollow points which seem, to me, to be quite hot on their own based on felt recoil verses CCI and CD.
That little pistol kicks hard enough with commercial rounds as it is!
I do not know the consequences of using BB on a very limited bases but I don't think I want to take the chance.
YMMV

 

[Stan45]

Thanks CharlesMorrison
I have a TCP and have put a few rounds of BB through it. They make standard and +P ammo.
I have a friend that has put BB in his TCP all went well.
I like the idea that the round will go deep. Winchester makes a FMJ FP, I may try some of them.
One thing to keep in a watch our for is bullet setback, I have not noticed any on my gun, but it does not get shot that much.

 

[cluznar]

Stan45 do you know what caliber the Berlin Police use? I know years ago they carried a .32 acp but I imagine now they have moved up to either a .380 or 9mm?

 

[sgtbill]

Both my wife and myself carry a Walther PK380 loaded with Speer Gold Dot hollow point ammo and we have no fear of putting someone down at close encounter ranges.

A short story. 2 day's ago my oldest son shot a deer with his .50 cal. smokepole and it was not the best shot. The deer was still alive with a shaterd spine and lifting it's head. He shot the deer with my .380 from several feet away and put it down for good. Upon looking for the spent slug I found it at the top of the brain just under the skull cap. It had traveld about 8 inches through the neck and into the brain. The slug went out to .408 from .355 and hit the scale at 86.0 grains from 95 grains. It expanded very well and retained a lot of the original weight. It in fact did it's job.
Bill

 

[Stan45]

Stan45 do you know what caliber the Berlin Police use? I know years ago they carried a .32 acp but I imagine now they have moved up to either a .380 or 9mm?

I do not know. Good question.

 

[CDR_Glock]

If any auto loader is pressed against an object, it runs the risk of a failure. Perhaps that was the cause of the failure to work in the case of the story in the article.

I carry a 380 as a backup with Buffalo Bore +P 90 grain ammo in a Sig P238. There have been times I've only carry it as a primary - more formal outings. The likelihood for me, as an armed citizen, to actually need any gun is pretty slim but I DO carry one, at least, and often TWO. However, the primary is usually a 1911, 45 ACP Glock, or 357 Magnum 586 L-Comp.

 

[lilmule]

In a short lightweight gun a 380 or 9x17 is 200 fpe,,9x18 mak is 250,9x18 luger is 300fpe in general.
Most jhp do not expand well below 1000 fps,and most jhp penetrate better.
I carry a pa 63 in 9x18,plenty of punch also carry a mid sized 32 acp at times 3.6 in barrel so 200 fpe out of that with s and b 60 grain jhp,1200 fps.Accuracy not how large for the most part,a smaller accurate hole is better than an inaccurate larger one.That said a large accurate one is better ,shoot the largest you can control and conceal that you can shoot again and again if needed.
I have a 45 do not cc it as to large,and dont want one shrunk that will make me wish I hadnt a shot it.

 

[cluznar]

Very good lilmule, I also have a .380 and a 3.5 barrel .32 I carry and trust them both. I also agree on not carrying a small .45 because many people can not control them well. A ,45 has plenty recoil and when you make the gun small the recoil is even worse. To me a full size .45 for range/competition/home defense is fine but not to carry. I own nothing over a 9mm and I feel I am not undergunned.

:dirol:

 

[trainor]

u r not undergunned with a 9mm, if you load it with Corbon's 100 gr PowrBall load and you can get 6 hits per second. .20 second repeat hits are not hard to achieve with a 9mm, not on the chest of a man, at the typical 10 ft and less ranges of justifiable civilian self defense. 4 hits in half a second is feasible, too, actually, since the first shot is not included. .17 second is still pretty 'doable", with a good SA auto. 1/2 second is not much time to do much moving, and 4 holes in you, with a good, expanding bullet, at over 400 ft lbs of energy per hit, it pretty damned likely to suffice. But that is a long, long ways from what the average guy can achieve. He's getting maybe 2 hits, with 380's that have 150 ft lbs each, and that don''t expand, so they waste a lot of their power on overpenetration of the man. 200 ftlbs actually delivered, 2 small holes, as vs 4 big holes, and 1400 ft lb delivered=huge difference in the probability of coming out ahead.

 

[Rocketgeezer]

I noticed some did not want to carry a 45 because of the size, weight, recoil,...........I agree some are boat anger heavy, but you may want to ck some of the compact 3 inch barrel 1911s with alloy frames, if a sensable rd is used the recoil is totaly controllable, and they are not much differant size wise to carry than the larger 380s, like the 380 Walther, I have posted on this thread before and still say bigger is better, BUT I would not want to be on the receiving end of a 380 at any range..............and today I'm carrying my Colt Defender and Bersa thunder 380......