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Here's a link to to company that produces the video my company is pushing as "required viewing".
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Shot's Fired When Lightning Strikes
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Shot's Fired When Lightning Strikes
Here's a link to to company that produces the video my company is pushing as "required viewing".
Shot's Fired When Lightning Strikes
Seems to me, that if you aren't supposed to be carrying at work, you should either not carry, find another job, or be prepared to accept the consequences if it suddenly became public knowledge that you were carrying.
Integrity is non-negotiable.
There was one sentence that says it all.
"You need to take direct responsibility for your safety and security." -Randy Spivey, Executive Director, Center for Personal Protection & Safety
Of course, the remaining video looks like a "roll over and take it" type of thing. I recommend taking direct responsibility.
I got my CC permit in April and have played out this scenerio in my mind. I work for a VERY large national company with a "no wepons" policy. They actually recently sent out a mass email to all employees as a "required online course". It was a video and online class entitled, "Surviving an active shooter in the work place".
The video starts with an armed employee walking into their office obviously armed and angry. The receptionist sees him walk past and calls to him, he ignores. He walks into a large office cubicle area and as the camera pans away, you hear "POP- POP- POP". The workers are all shown dumbfounded and in shock. The narrator then basicly instructs the viewer to crawl into a room, under a desk, call 911, turn off the cell and lights and wait to die.
I was so pissed off by the gull of this video teaching my coworkers to be victims that I sent an email to my boss! In it, I spelled out how that same scenerio would have played out if our company policy didn't require us to be victims. I was factual and professional but refused to let my company off the hook on this one.
He never replied to my email and the last time I saw him, his one line response was, "what do you want me to do with that email"? I told him to make it so I can be armed with more than a prayer and a cell phone should something like this happen at our office. He only smirked and said, "ain't gonna happen".
I'm currently waiting for my S&W J frame to arrive and seriously considering carry at work. The thought of either situation is alarming. Would suck to be found out, but would suck much more to find myself under a desk waiting to die!
It's so frustating trying to educate the public on this subject after their brains have been turned to Jello by the media. Like the saying goes, "you can't fix stupid, stupid is forever".-Ron White
Let's look at the entire situation with this mindset. The Corporates don't care about you. You are an employee that makes them money and accomplishes what they need, and nothing more. If you get shot, they would rather fight a lawsuit by your widow or family, than they would for an accidental shooting or you shooting someone else, even in self defense. They figure your widow or family will be a much easier target to eliminate in a courtroom. And if you are carrying a gun, you are a liability and an accident waiting to happen. They generally know nothing about guns, and don't want to. They do know about liability, accident probablity and damages. You are too dumb to be safe with a gun and you might effect their bottom line and profit margin. THAT is what they are concerned with. Your personal safety is expendable.
So here's the solution. You carry it, low -profile. You keep it hidden. You keep your mouth shut. You do not discuss guns unless it's with a close trusted friend at work. You still do not reveal that you carry. You keep a concealed, smaller pistol with you, and a bigger pistol in a hidden compartment in your briefcase. You do not discuss firearms policies or ask your boss a question about the firearms policies. You play stupid. You watch those "employee lay down and die peacefully with a cell phone, hiding under your desk" videos, and then think for yourself. If someone goes postal, you protect yourself. If you can save others, do so. You can always argue the point in court after his funeral. You do not know who the psyco maybe in 3 or 4 years. The guy you discussed guns with or confided in, may be the disgrunted employee 4 years from now after his wife leaves him with the kids, he loses his house and loses his job. You don't want him to know that you are the one guy who is armed in the office. If you shoot in self defense or defense of others, or if you simply get discovered, they may fire you. There are other jobs. It's better than having your job and dying at your desk, following company rules. I don't know any other way to explain it.
BRAVO.......Well said!
I just need to get past trying to change the world view of things and cover my own six.
Next issue. I spend a great deal of time driving a company vehicle (again falls under the no guns on company property clause). If I'm carrying legally and am in an accident/injured and the hospital, EMT or LEO discover my LEGALLY carried wepon, do they disclose this to the company since they own the vehicle?
BRAVO.......Well said!
I just need to get past trying to change the world view of things and cover my own six.
Next issue. I spend a great deal of time driving a company vehicle (again falls under the no guns on company property clause). If I'm carrying legally and am in an accident/injured and the hospital, EMT or LEO discover my LEGALLY carried wepon, do they disclose this to the company since they own the vehicle?
Friday I carried my P3AT on my ankle and made a point of adjusting my pants/belt in the presence of that person. As I did it I noticed she instantly glanced down to were she thought she saw my other firearm!
I do understand the consequences if I were ever "found out"...
...I also have an obligation to provide income for my family.
I doubt any leo or emt would have reason to disclose that paticular detail about the situation...
Coming home and saying "Honey, I got fired today for carrying a gun", if she does not know you carry at work could be a major problem
It appears that you and I are employed by the same company.
A few that I like and alternate between are:
- Cell Pal - ConcealCity.com
- Smart Carry - SmartCarry - Concealed Gun Holsters