Got Fired. Anyone Need a Social Media Manager?


BC1 said:
Have you thought about being an instructor? The sport needs female instructors badly.
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I second this. I think you'd make a fantastic instructor. And I'd likely hire you, once I get around to opening my little "non-militant-average-Joe-and-Jane" FFL and training school down south somewhere.

BUT - you'd have to use the words "Gun Porn" at least once a day. :p
 

Hey LG;
Would you be willing to do something on a 'contractual" basis?

I do need help with my website, blog, Facebook & Twitter account.

PM me if you are interested.
 
localgirl said:
Hi Guys.

My employers at GunSafes.com and RockwellArms.com just terminated my contract for using the word "gun porn" in a Tweet referring to SHOT Show pictures.

Anyone need a good social media manager?
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Freedom of speech doesn't seem so free anymore nowadays. Political correctness and all.
Sorry to hear about your situation. I have been unemployed for a fairly long time now due to health reasons, but now that I'm getting better I'm hoping to get back into the groove sooner than later.
Hang in there, things will eventually improve.
 
I wish I could help you but you are too far away and the job will only for a whole week...'wish you live closer...we are organizing a convention/fly-in and I am wearing so many hats...:hang2:
 
The_Outlaw:264990 said:
localgirl said:
Hi Guys.

My employers at GunSafes.com and RockwellArms.com just terminated my contract for using the word "gun porn" in a Tweet referring to SHOT Show pictures.

Anyone need a good social media manager?
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Freedom of speech doesn't seem so free anymore nowadays. Political correctness and all.
Sorry to hear about your situation. I have been unemployed for a fairly long time now due to health reasons, but now that I'm getting better I'm hoping to get back into the groove sooner than later.
Hang in there, things will eventually improve.
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Freedom of speech has nothing to do with it when you are being paid to do a job within an "at will" relationship. The idea that we are entitled to a job is the root of all evil. It's not "our job". It's the employer or company owners job. Or stockholder. They decide what freedom of speech is.
 
localgirl said:
Hi Guys.

My employers at GunSafes.com and RockwellArms.com just terminated my contract for using the word "gun porn" in a Tweet referring to SHOT Show pictures.

Anyone need a good social media manager?
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Pm Sent

I can't believe that two companies in the "gun" business would take issue with that phrase. I thought you might have worked for some liberal PC company who was AG. Though it doesn't sound like it.

I'm really sorry. But, it could be a blessing in disguise. I'd love to see you start making more $$$ by doing you own thing!

-
 
localgirl said:
No Charon, it was a professional Tweet. Something along the lines of "Here's some gun porn for ya" with a pic attachment from SHOT Show. They also cited two other reasons, both of which I refuted and replied with e-mail proof. I think it was just the "gun porn" thing that really pissed them off. Which to me warrants a talking-to, not firing. But oh well.

I'm just hoping someone on this forum might know someone who could use a firearms writer.
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Actually I think you should contact a good 1A lawyer, unless "gun porn" somehow violates a morals clause in your contract. Sound like your Freedom of speech and possible your freedom of creative thought has been violated.

I wouldn't stop with emails. You never know who it is that is reading or sending them. Pick up the phone if you already haven't and call the president of the companies that issued the terminations.

Go after them for breach of contract assuming you had a contract that wasn't near termination date. But review your morals clause to see if you screwed up first, but definitely consult a lawyer.

Good luck with it.
 
rdm6680 said:
Freedom of speech has nothing to do with it when you are being paid to do a job within an "at will" relationship. The idea that we are entitled to a job is the root of all evil. It's not "our job". It's the employer or company owners job. Or stockholder. They decide what freedom of speech is.
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No pi$$ing match here but unless there is a specific language clause that prohibits a specific kind of language from being used in official company related communication, there is no grounds for dismissal. Typically the vernacular of the target client is acceptable. The definition of "vulgar language" is wide and localized in some instances. What I would consider unacceptable and what you consider acceptable are 2 different stories. The only way unacceptable can be defined for multiple parties is if it is spelled out in writing in a contract.

The questions are, to start with, who was the target recipient to get the tweet and was the tweet on a company owned account?
 
walt629 said:
No pi$$ing match here but unless there is a specific language clause that prohibits a specific kind of language from being used in official company related communication, there is no grounds for dismissal. Typically the vernacular of the target client is acceptable. The definition of "vulgar language" is wide and localized in some instances. What I would consider unacceptable and what you consider acceptable are 2 different stories. The only way unacceptable can be defined for multiple parties is if it is spelled out in writing in a contract.

The questions are, to start with, who was the target recipient to get the tweet and was the tweet on a company owned account?
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walt, that's kind of what I've been ruminating. I was a contractor [a clever, clever ploy that moved me from regular employee status ;)], and my approach was to promote the brand and appeal to the clientele. Obviously "gun porn" is quite common and pretty innocent amongst gun nuts.

However, I knew my bosses were Mormon (just how Mormon, I dunno), so I was always very careful not to be too outre.

This was a Tweet sent a while back highlighting a picture from SHOT Show, from the firearms company account that I was solely responsible for. I was always very careful to be professional, and to me this was levity, and a great opportunity to push sales to the site, rather than something offensive.

But the standards of the community don't always match the standards of the company.

There was nothing in my contract that placed any stipulations on the type of content I was to post, but Idaho is a Right to Work state, which means zero reason, and zero notice.

My specific contract did specify two months' notice from either party, so they do have to pay out the remainder--another thing that makes me think "Why the heck not just tell me that wasn't OK and actually get something for your money?"

I suspect there was something going on behind the scenes. Either that, or this was just a big hot-button issue for them. Either way, I couldn't have reasonably seen it coming, and I sincerely feel like I was using the zeitgeist already in place.
 
Oh, and the target audience was some 2,000 subscribers who were mostly gun enthusiasts, gun industry, and related things like accessories, hunting, fishing, et al.
 
gun show plus porn show = gun porn

So if they have such a problem with the word porn. I take it they were not a part of the show since there was also a porn show in town at the same time as the shot show or did they miss that on twitter
 
localgirl said:
walt, that's kind of what I've been ruminating. I was a contractor [a clever, clever ploy that moved me from regular employee status ;)], and my approach was to promote the brand and appeal to the clientele. Obviously "gun porn" is quite common and pretty innocent amongst gun nuts.

However, I knew my bosses were Mormon (just how Mormon, I dunno), so I was always very careful not to be too outre.

This was a Tweet sent a while back highlighting a picture from SHOT Show, from the firearms company account that I was solely responsible for. I was always very careful to be professional, and to me this was levity, and a great opportunity to push sales to the site, rather than something offensive.

But the standards of the community don't always match the standards of the company.

There was nothing in my contract that placed any stipulations on the type of content I was to post, but Idaho is a Right to Work state, which means zero reason, and zero notice.

My specific contract did specify two months' notice from either party, so they do have to pay out the remainder--another thing that makes me think "Why the heck not just tell me that wasn't OK and actually get something for your money?"

I suspect there was something going on behind the scenes. Either that, or this was just a big hot-button issue for them. Either way, I couldn't have reasonably seen it coming, and I sincerely feel like I was using the zeitgeist already in place.
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Wow. What a blind siding! I read this post twice and I thought you were saying MORON not Mormon. My bad.

I don't know how much effort you would want to put in to fight your dismissal but if your employer implied or overtly expressed anything that would connect your dismissal to his Mormon faith, that might give a good lawyer the hots! At this juncture I would assume you're not going to get glowing reviews for future employment.

If you have any letters of accomplishment that have been sent, even traceable emails, they can all be used to establish past work practices on your behalf. Just like letters of reprimand can be used against you, letters of accomplishment or merit can be used against the employer for unusual termination.

What ever you decide, keep your good attitude intact and go forward from here.

Good luck Young Lady!
 
I've already had some interest in my work from this post, so I'm going to set up a Facebook page with descriptions and rates. Right now it's bare bones, but it should be pretty in a few days: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Socia...ocial-Media-Solutions/378080892207049?sk=wall As soon as I get 25 fans, I can post a vanity URL, which will be something like faceboo/company name--much easier to remember. If you all know anyone who needs my services, drop me a line!
 
Also, guys, I want to say thank you, sincerely, for letting me cry on your shoulders.

You've all become like some kind of crazy virtual family to me, and I really appreciate your support and just knowing you're always here.
 
local girl, were you paid a weekly salary or by the hr.? If so did you get a 1099 or a w-2? Are you eliagible for unemployment? Contact the US Labor department for info. Did you pay for workmens comp. and liability insurance? I ask because all these determine weather you were an employee or a contractor. Also did your business cards for the company say you were a contractor or consulatant? Best way to tell what your status was is to Contact US Labor. They may change thier tune if you involve the Feds as they may be liable for backpay to not just you but to other's. Good luck!
 
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