Heyjg: You are right about your feelings when it comes to some of the forum members. Personally I think some repliers are very emboldened when sitting in their pjs at a computer and writing like they are Dirty Harry reincarnates. I think we take their words a little too seriously. I am sure that in head to head discussions, their attitudes, like most of us, would be tempered somewhat with the realization that every dog that is barking and prancing is not a vicious killer waiting to be shot dead. Interestingly in my local paper today there was an article from Washington indicating that last year there were more than 5,600 mail carriers bitten by dogs costing the USPS over $1.2 mil. Last year more than 4.7 million citizens (mostly children) were bitten by dogs. Top cities were Houston, Columbus, San Diego, LA, Louisville, San Antonio, St. Louis, Cleveland, Phoenix, Minneapolis, Portland, Denver, Philly, Saramento, and Seattle.
Dog attacks and confrontations????
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Firefighterchen
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None taken and I appreciate the courtesy. I simply got somewhat worried about some posters who sounded like they'd gun anything down that even looked at them wrong. Since I have dogs myself I know that there is a lot more bark than bite in most of them. We keep ours leashed but sometimes mishaps happen. Our neighbors don't shoot my dogs and I don't shoot theirs.[/QUOTE]
Totally agree. Reminded me of the guy who said he would run over anyone he saw carrying a gun (because he thinks anyone who is carrying a gun is a criminal...cause we might be good people until we go crazy and shoot each other). There is a distinct difference between aggression (which is totally justifiable to defend yourself) and barking (which is not okay to shoot). No need to jump the gun on mans best friend.
Totally agree. Reminded me of the guy who said he would run over anyone he saw carrying a gun (because he thinks anyone who is carrying a gun is a criminal...cause we might be good people until we go crazy and shoot each other). There is a distinct difference between aggression (which is totally justifiable to defend yourself) and barking (which is not okay to shoot). No need to jump the gun on mans best friend.
walther380
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My neighbors dog scares the crap out of me every time I see it. He has a doberman. This dog is big!! He stands an easy 36-40 inches at the shoulder. My heart races every time he comes around he is usually running but that dog will lick you to death. The dog does run freely after he gets his bath on the weekends. He's harmless unless he steps on your foot while wearing sandals.
father-of-three
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Pennsylvania law states that lethal force can be used against a dog if it is charging at, wounding, or killing a person or pet. I was surprised to hear that, given that Pennsylvania is rather "retreat oriented" when it comes to humans attacking. A neighbor one street down from me has 2 large rotweilers. One day in the winter when I was running, the dogs were getting out for a walk. Unfortunately, the dogs saw me and ended up dragging woman walking them across her frozen driveway by the leash. All I had on me at that time was pepper spray. That was the only time they appeared to have limited control of the dogs, though, but those big dogs concern me. The owner stops walking them and makes them sit when I run by, but they often jump up and make nasty growling noises. I wouldn't want to shoot them, but I get the impression that if they got loose, they would be dangerous.
BC1
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Got to remember they run in a pack mentality too! One Rotty may just growl but when together they key off each other and may be more proned to attack or harassment.
Deanimator
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I'm not a dog trainer, nor does the state of Ohio require me to be one. It requires me to not trespass on someone else's property and provoke their animals.
If I'm minding my own business, walking down the street, and a dog puts me in reasonable fear of being harmed, I have -0- duty to put myself in ANY danger to protect that dog. If somebody doesn't want their dog to get shot, they need to maintain control of it such that it's not a credible, immediate threat to third parties. If you don't do that, it's obvious that you really don't care about your dog, just your ability to impose on strangers.
The kind of people who let dangerous dogs run loose are the same ones who let their children grow up to be thugs and terrorize their neighbors. Both of them wonder why their dogs get shot for chasing people or why their kids get shot for trying to rob people.
Dogs are like people, none can be trusted because none are truly predictable. Just cause something is outside the norm for any given personality type doesn't mean it is impossible whether it be man or beast...
I don't think most of the first time murderers setting in prison ever really thought of themselves as the murdering type. I think I've seen some stats somewhere or another thats shown most were simple fits of rage outside of the person's normal behavior patterns.
I don't think most of the first time murderers setting in prison ever really thought of themselves as the murdering type. I think I've seen some stats somewhere or another thats shown most were simple fits of rage outside of the person's normal behavior patterns.
Firefighterchen
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[/QUOTE] The kind of people who let dangerous dogs run loose are the same ones who let their children grow up to be thugs and terrorize their neighbors. Both of them wonder why their dogs get shot for chasing people or why their kids get shot for trying to rob people.[/QUOTE]
All dogs can be dangerous, just like all people can be dangerous. I agree, irresponsible people let their pets and kids run wild. Defending yourself is defending yourself. Easy as that.
All dogs can be dangerous, just like all people can be dangerous. I agree, irresponsible people let their pets and kids run wild. Defending yourself is defending yourself. Easy as that.
GETMRUTN
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The kind of people who let dangerous dogs run loose are the same ones who let their children grow up to be thugs and terrorize their neighbors. Both of them wonder why their dogs get shot for chasing people or why their kids get shot for trying to rob people.[/QUOTE]
All dogs can be dangerous, just like all people can be dangerous. I agree, irresponsible people let their pets and kids run wild. Defending yourself is defending yourself. Easy as that.[/QUOTE]
I wish most thought this way. We have had Pits since I was a kid growing up and I'm in my 40's now. My wife has done Pit Bull Rescue for over 13 years now. The Media has done so many things to make the GUN and PITS a dangerous tool on its own without holding the person with either of them accountable. We have never had one issue with any of our dogs even the bad ones we get. Even though some were not able to be rehabilitated and we had to put them down because of a previous owners actions with the dog. We only have two now and they are ours and I wouldnt trade them for anything. They are trained very well and will not leave our side even when walking on our property with us or the kids. We consider our dogs our first line of defense while at home and if they are on leash. So next time consider the source before you judge the breed. Any Breed can be mean if mis-treated. People need to understand that Pits have such a high prey drive and they need to be treated with respect as does a firearm no matter what type you are dealing with.
All dogs can be dangerous, just like all people can be dangerous. I agree, irresponsible people let their pets and kids run wild. Defending yourself is defending yourself. Easy as that.[/QUOTE]
I wish most thought this way. We have had Pits since I was a kid growing up and I'm in my 40's now. My wife has done Pit Bull Rescue for over 13 years now. The Media has done so many things to make the GUN and PITS a dangerous tool on its own without holding the person with either of them accountable. We have never had one issue with any of our dogs even the bad ones we get. Even though some were not able to be rehabilitated and we had to put them down because of a previous owners actions with the dog. We only have two now and they are ours and I wouldnt trade them for anything. They are trained very well and will not leave our side even when walking on our property with us or the kids. We consider our dogs our first line of defense while at home and if they are on leash. So next time consider the source before you judge the breed. Any Breed can be mean if mis-treated. People need to understand that Pits have such a high prey drive and they need to be treated with respect as does a firearm no matter what type you are dealing with.
This has happened twice in Colorado the past couple of months. I don't remember the article exactly byrmt they both justified in statements that they felt there lives were in danger and shot thhe dogs. Animals rights groups tried to go after one of them but couldn't prove the dogs were not out of control
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JSDinTexas
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Out in the country where I live stray dogs are shot on sight. This happens because city people abandon their dogs in the country - the dogs go wild, gather in packs, and kill anything smaller than a cow: a couple of people were killed by these packs last year, one was a lady tending her garden.
Remember this: one dog you can take down, even without a gun. But if in a pack, get up a tree and pick them off from there (and carry an extra loaded magazine).
Remember this: one dog you can take down, even without a gun. But if in a pack, get up a tree and pick them off from there (and carry an extra loaded magazine).
Cold Steel
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I have come across so many dogs in my lifetime and I only recall being bitten once and it was by a Collie. Living in Chicago dogs are everywhere and they get loose all the time. Since I am robbed of my liberties I have found other ways of defending myself. I also like to think I have developed pretty good judgment when a dog comes running up to me whether or not he is friendly. If I had the option I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a dog but I would use the best of my judgement before doing so.
Tucker's Mom
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When walking my dog and I encounter one who will hurt me and mine, I will not hesitate to shoot. Plain and simple.
beardedjesse
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I hate to say it: if its Fido or Me, Fido is going down.
I have a full bred pitt bull who is not dangerous one bit. He does run towards people and dogs which I am working on training him as he is still a puppy. He just turned a year. He has never even snapped at a person let alone me or my husband or children. There are extremely small children next door and those kids love my dog and my dog loves them. If anybody ever shot my dog b/c he came running towards them to check them out... that's what he does... if you yell @ him he seriously gets hurt feelings... if anybody shot my dog for being his playful puppy self I would be madder than a hornet and I would probably whoop their behind... putting it nicely. Pitts are not bad dogs. They aren't evil or vicious. The only reason people think that is b/c the media caught wind of blacks dog fighting them and demonized them as horrible and vicious and they aren't. If you raise them to be vicious they will be, but typically speaking they are sweet loving loyal dogs! For all you pitt haters try researching their history. Presidents have had them. The military used them and they were used in WWI & WWII war posters. At one time until the 80s, pitts were America's dog. Don't just assume they are evil. I have been attacked by rottweilers and required stitches and all kinds of medical attention for me and my dog, but I'm still not scared of them and I don't condemn the breed. It was just those 2 dogs. It would almost be like being a racists... and saying well I knew this one or two black, mexican, white, whatever color you want and they acted like this so that entire race must be that way... that's stupid. Dogs know when you are afraid and they try to use to dominate you. Change your vibe don't be afraid and they will act different. They will submit to your dominance without you having to kill them or beat them. Learn dog language seriously. That's somebody's pet you're killing and for no better reason than you let your fear get the better of you. You might be a fantastic shot, but if you can't think standing on your feet instead of with your first reaction of shooting it then maybe you shouldn't be packing heat until you figure out how to think on your feet. If its a last resort that is absolutely necessary then that's one thing, but shooting a dog just b/c it got loose ... that is no reason or excuse and I would see you in court @ least twice... once for beating you down and the other for punitive damages for killing my dog.
Nightmare45
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Already stated my feelings about dogs and how they are raised, have a friend and have owned so call bad dogs, no better or worse than the friendly folks roaming in society, I have owned and handled large dogs, and have no issue with them, however; anyone or thing attacking me or my family will be STOPPED from doing so by whatever means necessary.
