Christians: This is why the atheists here don't believe you

[XD40scinNC]

When people are well-educated (as opposed to well-credentialed), it usually shows in the way they talk, write, and think. They don't have to constantly remind people of their credentials.

Real world, I have never seen anyone with any degrees above a bachelors actually bring their degrees into a debate to prove their position carries more weight, or makes their views more correct.

Degrees have a place, framed and hanging in the office in a professional setting.

 

[mappow]

Some ME's are still taught that Bumble Bees cannot fly. Wing span verses gross weight will not be enough lift to enable flight. BUT, them little buggers fly all the time.
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Whilst not discounting ANY education. A lot is done for paper sake not actual engagement sake. I've met many over the years that can spew but can't produce.

 

[BC1]

When people are well-educated (as opposed to well-credentialed), it usually shows in the way they talk, write, and think. They don't have to constantly remind people of their credentials.

So if they learned it in college they shouldn't says it? Perhaps it hurts the dunces tiny feelings? Piss off.

 

[BC1]

Some ME's are still taught that Bumble Bees cannot fly. Wing span verses gross weight will not be enough lift to enable flight. BUT, them little buggers fly all the time.
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Whilst not discounting ANY education. A lot is done for paper sake not actual engagement sake. I've met many over the years that can spew but can't produce.

Well home boy that ain't me.

 

[Twistedcowboy]

All you can do is set a good Christian example. Show love to anyone and everyone. Be compassionate even if they spit on you, turn the other cheek. Watching those Christians get executed by ISIS was a perfect example. They praised Jesus as the knives slit their throats. Will we all be called to die for our beliefs? No, but we must be ready to. Turning the other cheek does not mean you have to parade that cheek in front of the abuser, but you must politely excuse yourself. None of this is easy, but it will one day be worth it.

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[Jarhead6541]

I repeatedly gave the sources, citations and links. Go back and find them. While you were in the military some of us posters were getting great educations at top-notch colleges. Columbia University isn't teaching bu!!*****. And referencing my niece's textbooks, gut value programming is the generally accepted method by which kids' value systems are programmed from their formulative years through adolescence. It's called by many names. The liberals use it to defend nearly every crazy statement anymore. Liam Neeson says violent movies make kids violent. And every time another kid shoots-up a school the liberals blame violent video games. And they're correct. Violent movies and video games contribute to gut value programming in that they desensitize kids. That part of the issue has long been agreed and settled.

Y’know, I don’t particularly care so much about the subject [except for the fact you’re wrong], it’s the way you talk down to people that I won’t tolerate.

So you think because you stared at a blackboard for several years more than some that you’re better than others who either couldn't afford it or didn’t have the opportunity?
You’re not better than anyone. You get one vote like the rest of us, and we’re not your employees to abuse for your enjoyment.

Oh, and you are correct. From the age of ten I worked full time on a relatives dairy farm while attending HS just to help keep my family’s head above water. I did serve my country after HS, and although meaningless to you, I found great satisfaction in doing so. It also gave me the opportunity to extend my education. Which I also accomplished.

So,congratulations on your “top-notch education”, it’s just too bad they couldn’t teach you a little humility and how to control your condescending nature.
If only more members would call you out on it, you just might take the hint.

 

[BC1]

Real world, I have never seen anyone with any degrees above a bachelors actually bring their degrees into a debate to prove their position carries more weight, or makes their views more correct.

Degrees have a place, framed and hanging in the office in a professional setting.

Then you haven't seen much. In my world you go nowhere without an advanced degree. And I never regarded you as too bright anyway. Rather, I see you with some deep reason to hate religion and education. You insult and ridicule everyone who says anything positive about religion. The beauty of education? We understand where it comes from. The problem educated people face throughout their lives is ridicule from those without a brain. Like dealing with the scarecrow.
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I never hired anyone with less than a graduate degree. And for you Mappow, the peanut gallery, the doctor who saves your life (or maybe doesn't) has an advanced degree hanging on that wall. Tell him it's worth nothing. Tell the guy who designs that hi-rise building his degree is BS. Tell that lawyer who saves your ass when you fail to inform (or doesn't) that the degrees on his wall are worthless. Anyone who believes that line of $h!t doesn't have the chops to make the argument. Tried being nice to you XD. Your hatred of anyone with an education or a pro-religious view is so evident as to suggest you look inward. Personally? I believe you're an underachiever with a poor upbringing. You were never taught not to ridicule. Many of us find that sad. But when only two of the thousands of members of this forum repeatedly attack each and every person over each and every religious post? There's a problem.

 

[BC1]

Y’know, I don’t particularly care so much about the subject [except for the fact you’re wrong], it’s the way you talk down to people that I won’t tolerate.

You won't tolerate it? What are you gonna do about it jarhead? You been around for 110 posts. You have no idea who is who. Your siding with one of the top three trouble-makers here because of atheism. Go back and read hundreds of insulting posts from your new friend. I don't take hints. I care nothing about what anyone in this world thinks of me. No one. I do and say exactly as I please and there's not a damn thing you or anyone else could ever do about it. When you can argue the topics with me bring it on. Until then... go milk the friggin cows.
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When someone argues a point and another knows they're wrong because of their education they can't say it without getting hammered? This moron XD and you want to argue against the class syllabus in use right at this moment in top colleges. You want us to agree with you when you're wrong? Yer a leg humper. The cows don't like it and educated people don't like it. Want to have a math contest? :haha:

 

[Jarhead6541]

You won't tolerate it? What are you gonna do about it jarhead? You been around for 110 posts. You have no idea who is who. Your siding with one of the top three trouble-makers here because of atheism. Go back and read hundreds of insulting posts from your new friend. I don't take hints. I care nothing about what anyone in this world thinks of me. No one. I do and say exactly as I please and there's not a damn thing you or anyone else could ever do about it. When you can argue the topics with me bring it on. Until then... go milk the friggin cows.
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When someone argues a point and another knows they're wrong because of their education they can't say it without getting hammered? This moron XD and you want to argue against the class syllabus in use right at this moment in top colleges. You want us to agree with you when you're wrong? Yer a leg humper. The cows don't like it and educated people don't like it. Want to have a math contest? :haha:

You sound like a baby. I've just proven you, with all your education, were completely wrong about "nature vs nurture". It's not settled at all. genius.

All you did was change the subject. You're wrong! You're wrong! Said it twice, can't fire me!

Now you may go back to torturing your employees...if there's any left.

 

[XD40scinNC]

So if they learned it in college they shouldn't says it? Perhaps it hurts the dunces tiny feelings? Piss off.

Psst your ego or your arrogance is showing, and it isn't very attractive...... You really very defensive of your so called self-defined superior education and it sets off all kinds of alarm bells.

 

[XD40scinNC]

Tried being nice to you XD. Your hatred of anyone with an education or a pro-religious view is so evident as to suggest you look inward. Personally? I believe you're an underachiever with a poor upbringing. You were never taught not to ridicule. Many of us find that sad. But when only two of the thousands of members of this forum repeatedly attack each and every person over each and every religious post? There's a problem.

No, I have no problem with education, just the assh0les that keep throwing it in everyone face and claiming they are some how superior or smarter because of it and constantly belittle those without multiple degrees, while professing your were not taught to ridicule.

Anyone can get degrees (I present George "Dumbya" Bush for example)

But ask yourself why you insist on defending your position with your degrees and alma-mater vs. facts and reason. And why are you so damn defensive about your education, what are you compensating for? I know a number of people with Masters and Doctorates, and none of them demonstrate such behavior, and the especially don't attempt to belittle people because they don't have these degrees.

 

[mappow]

Well home boy that ain't me.

No offense intended, juz saying.

 

[Farmhood]

Another fine example of liberal progressive leaders. Twisters and breakers! Grab some popcorn.

sinful nature is always hostile to God....

 

[BC1]

You sound like a baby. I've just proven you, with all your education, were completely wrong about "nature vs nurture". It's not settled at all. genius.

All you did was change the subject. You're wrong! You're wrong! Said it twice, can't fire me!

Now you may go back to torturing your employees...if there's any left.

I retired... at 44 BECAUSE of a good education. Tortured my employees? That's funny. But you made a statement without any knowledge of it's truth. Carry-on liberal.
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I NEVER mentioned the subject of nature vs. nurture. You are absolutely correct that opinions still differ as to the amount of influence when evaluating how much of an affect each has. Thus, why is it that two kids born in the ghetto to bad parents can take entirely different paths in life. But that is not the same as gut value programming.
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An example of GVP is that a small boy emulates his father because he's surrounded by the father's influence; be it good or bad. IF nature chooses that little boy to be gay he may emulate his mother or even an older sister. GVP encompasses both nurture and nature and makes no distinction between the two. It merely states that a person is a sum of their influences and experiences, whether they were based in nurture or nature. You took psych and soc in college? Why don't you know this distinction?
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You've been here for a hundred posts. Not very long. My posts have 9,400 "likes." That didn't happen by accident. Don't continue the banter son. You opened your mouth without knowing enough.

 

[BC1]

Psst your ego or your arrogance is showing, and it isn't very attractive...... You really very defensive of your so called self-defined superior education and it sets off all kinds of alarm bells.

XD, what sets-off alarm bells is someone who can't stop fighting each and every person and each and every post about religion. You have a hard-on for religious types. While I have an ego you insult these people beyond anything normal.

 

[Firefighterchen]

XD, what sets-off alarm bells is someone who can't stop fighting each and every person and each and every post about religion. You have a hard-on for religious types. While I have an ego you insult these people beyond anything normal.

That's what I call an extremist.

 

[XD40scinNC]

XD, what sets-off alarm bells is someone who can't stop fighting each and every person and each and every post about religion. You have a hard-on for religious types. While I have an ego you insult these people beyond anything normal.

No, only the religious that pose a threat to freedoms and mankind's future, those you consistently ignore. You go on about the love and compassion you hear in your church, yet when presented with evidence of hate and intolerance preached in many other churches, you attack me. Don't like the message, shoot the messenger?

Doesn't change the fact the probably millions of people across the buy bull belt are listening to instructions from the pulpit about who they should hate at this moment (Sunday morning).

 

[BC1]

All the religious types need to do is stop being so narcissistic and conspicuous in the promotions and defenses of religion and of what people do in the name of religion. If they post the usual nonsense about religion in a forum open to public discussion they can now (finally) expect to be called on it. Religious evangelizing and proselytizing no longer get a free, uncontested ride. That's good--the more religion's nonsense and excesses are exposed for what they are, the better.

Well, in a sense you're absolutely correct. I takes two to tango. But when an atheist enters a religious thread for the purpose of fighting each and every person and post I lay the aggression on him. What past experience drives a person to enter the lion's den looking for the fight? I'm a Christian so I post in the thread. but I won't enter an atheist-centric thread and fight with every person there. Such behavior would signal something wrong with me. I have no problem with atheists. I'm good friends with an elderly atheist couple. We don't even talk about the subject. They're fine people. They're entitled to their belief, unmolested by Bible thumpers. But they're not entitled to ridicule every theist. I posted earlier I was shocked to see them at my mother's funeral and church service. He said respect trumps religious belief. A fine man indeed.

 

[Saltheart Foamfollower]

I don't have a problem with a christian defending their religion. I would expect them to do no less. My problem comes when they insist on preaching to me or treating me like I'm inferior because I don't believe what they do.

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[BC1]

I don't have a problem with a christian defending their religion. I would expect them to do no less. My problem comes when they insist on preaching to me or treating me like I'm inferior because I don't believe what they do.

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I would agree with that.
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And just the same, it's wrong for an atheist to preach his atheist belief in a pro-theist thread or ridicule a theist by claiming they're gullible, stupid or that they believe in fairy tales. Insults aren't part of debate. I also notice many of those who do the most insulting accuse others of it when they finally defend themselves. Again, on both sides of the issue. My view of this thing is that neither side of the argument has ANY proof. Discussions in good faith are great. But emotions run high on both sides. Dad's rule was no politics or religion at the dinner table... for good reason.