Uh, Pilgrims - 1620?....please explain to me why people of a different "faith" would immigrate to nations where their religion and culture is not practiced, where they make no effort to integrate into the culture and insist on implementing their form of law in opposition to established law.
Uh, Pilgrims - 1620?
And every Western movement of our so-called civilisation on this continent thereafter?
Ya think?
Uh, Pilgrims - 1620?
And every Western movement of our so-called civilisation on this continent thereafter?
Ya think?
At least they had the guts (for the most part), to take it face to face instead of like a thief in the night.
I'm sure if you would like to try someone else's "so called civilization", there are those of us here who would buy you a plane ticket. Sound good?
Um, look back at history and see all the wonderfully horrific things people did in god's name, in the name of Christianity. Some people still do.
Once you reconcile those things then we can talk about the moral superiority of Christians.
I've read accounts from both sides and though I was not there it seems to me that the "4 Christians" were harassing people at a convention or Muslim gathering. And many Christians criticize David Wood and Nabeel Qureshi group.
It's actually a very good analogy, and a complete refutation of mclureb's righteous conclusion in a wholly prejudiced self-asked/answered judgement.it's not an accurate comparison.
The beauty of the Constitution is that it allows for the freedoms we have. Some groups and ideologies run contrary to Constituitonal law, including Marxism and Islam. I had a coworker try to tell me that my concerns about Marxism/Socialism in this country are unfounded because there has not been, nor will there be, a physical, tangible working class revolution. I say the most effective revolution is one that happens right under everyone's noses so that people don't realize they have been fooled until it is too late. Hitler took away Germany's right to bear arms in 1933. People should be worried about 2000+ page congressional bills that are not read, regardless of party affilliation. The head of the socialist party in the 1930s said that Americans would never accept socialism unless it was disguised as "liberalism." A Socialist prophecy came true, if I may mix a few beliefs together.
Yes, there are two sides of the coin to religious freedom. Things I may disagree with are allowed, but so are the things that I do agree with. If others want to enjoy the same freedoms I have, then great. Come on over! But if others want to take away my freedoms because they run contrary to their beliefs and ideologies, then I have a problem with that. The rattlesnake is still a rattlesnake. Hard words, but true words.
The evidence you seek is in the Islamic practices around the world. Women are still stoned to death and people are still beheaded. Muslims rape non-Muslims in the Sudan, let alone all of the killing. Not all groups fall into the "extreme" category as we put it, but, correct me if I am wrong, few, or no Muslim groups speaks out against these more extreme Muslims. I say this because I believe they have the same fear of physical retaliation as do non-Muslim groups. They are afraid to speak out and have no freedom of speech, even responsible speech.
You first, as to the things supposedly done in the name of Christianity, part American Indian here if that is what you are referencing, atrocities were done in the name of greed not religion...
Crusades??? Go read 'The politically incorrect guide to ISLAM and the crusades" then you can comment on that part of history....
Have a look at the you tube video's they posted, there was no harassment, maybe false arrest, false police report, public streets being closed and used for a private religious festival, but harassment, only to those that were arrested....
It's actually a very good analogy, and a complete refutation of mclureb's righteous conclusion in a wholly prejudiced self-asked/answered judgement.
Sorry you just can't see it with the Christian blinders on.
Please give an example of how your (or others) freedoms, in the US, have been infringed upon as a result of Islam, or any other religion you don't agree with.
Please give an example of how your (or others) freedoms, in the US, have been infringed upon as a result of Islam, or any other religion you don't agree with.
Ahhhh, lets start with this thing called 911. How bout the BILLONS of tax dollars being spent on DHS. THEY have effected every American Tax payer. (Or at least the ones that actually pay taxes). The freedom of me to spend the fruits of my labor has been infringed upon in the name of the Islam.
As long as you're at it you could also admit to being a religiously intolerant bigot and get that out of the way as well.O.K. guys we will just have to admit that some people have their mind made up...
I am intolerant. Intolerant when it coms to fools.
As long as you're at it you could also admit to being a religiously intolerant bigot and get that out of the way as well.
As long as you're at it you could also admit to being a religiously intolerant bigot and get that out of the way as well.
C'mon HK - JayJay did it, now jump on that bandwagon, why dont'cha? :sarcastic:
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