Article Warns of Violent Response To Pending Gun Control Lefislation

I'm just as pro-2A as everyone else on here, but honestly, if this were ever to happen, I'd hand them over, and here's why. At this point in my life nothing, and I mean nothing, means more to me than my family. If given the choice between resisting and risking death (and thus being unable to be with my family) or complying and living under tyranny (but coming out alive and still have my family) I'd choose option 2. Besides, the government has police dressed in full body armor, fully automatic weapons, tanks, and nukes. No private citizen has an arsenal that can match that. Trying to resist that with my arsenal (a handgun and a 12 gauge pump shotgun) would be a suicide mission. If I were single, then resisting would cross my mind, but as a family man, my family will always come first, and as far as I'm concerned, they're better off having me alive and disarmed than dead with a pistol in my hand.

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Then you deserve neither liberty or freedom; you are part of the problem...
 
You must really have led a sheltered (and soundproofed) life.

No we live in a different world from yours. It's a world called "REALITY". You and Bluesstringer should visit it occassionally. Please don't tell everyone else what a sheltered life they live because you don't know anything about the real NRA. If anything YOUR life is sheltered. I lived most of my adult life in the streets as a cop and a paramedic. I did gunsmithing for years. I've traveled the world. I've actually had to shoot people to protect my life as a citizen. With real gun too! I also know many NRA Board Members and Officials PERSONALLY. I know the support and backing the NRA has given me as a citizen and politically. I'm not buying the Anti-NRA Conspiracy Crap. You guys talk alot but you don't know jack about the NRA. But feel good about yourself. You're in good company. People like Diane Fienstein, Chuck Schummer and Piers Morgan agree with you wholeheartedly. I can always tell you coneheads who start bad-mouthing the NRA, because you have no real knowlege of any of the crap you are spreading.

I've seen it my entire life. When people need to stick together and prevent or accomplish something, you always have these negative know-it-alls standing on the sidelines telling everybody that the leadership is flawed. That you can't trust people that you know you can trust, and usually it's by some @$$hole sitting in his recliner telling everyone who's doing the work. I don't know where you get your information from about the NRA but I guarantee it's not from knowing these people personally and having seen these things first hand. But you have the internet, so I guess that makes you an expert. But to be honest with you and a one or two others on this site, if you were in a military or tight law enforcement team that faced REAL bad guys, instead of on TV, you'd get your @$$ kicked for breaking down morale.
 
No we live in a different world from yours. It's a world called "REALITY". You and Bluesstringer should visit it occassionally. Please don't tell everyone else what a sheltered life they live because you don't know anything about the real NRA. If anything YOUR life is sheltered. I lived most of my adult life in the streets as a cop and a paramedic. I did gunsmithing for years. I've traveled the world. I've actually had to shoot people to protect my life as a citizen. With real gun too! I also know many NRA Board Members and Officials PERSONALLY. I know the support and backing the NRA has given me as a citizen and politically. I'm not buying the Anti-NRA Conspiracy Crap. You guys talk alot but you don't know jack about the NRA. But feel good about yourself. You're in good company. People like Diane Fienstein, Chuck Schummer and Piers Morgan agree with you wholeheartedly. I can always tell you coneheads who start bad-mouthing the NRA, because you have no real knowlege of any of the crap you are spreading.

I've seen it my entire life. When people need to stick together and prevent or accomplish something, you always have these negative know-it-alls standing on the sidelines telling everybody that the leadership is flawed. That you can't trust people that you know you can trust, and usually it's by some @$$hole sitting in his recliner telling everyone who's doing the work. I don't know where you get your information from about the NRA but I guarantee it's not from knowing these people personally and having seen these things first hand. But you have the internet, so I guess that makes you an expert. But to be honest with you and a one or two others on this site, if you were in a military or tight law enforcement team that faced REAL bad guys, instead of on TV, you'd get your @$$ kicked for breaking down morale.

Well said! He will probably break it down by sentence and respond with a paragraph of bluhbluhbluh to each.
 
Dumb as a bag of rocks.

Kinda makes you wonder if the kid even knows who Robert Kennedy was, eh?

I spent 20 years in the steel industry, most of it as a welder in the field. I've still got most of my tools gathering dust out in the garage, but none of them are less-used than this tool's brain. He would be comical if he wasn't so pathetically puerile and imbecilic.

Blues
 
Kinda makes you wonder if the kid even knows who Robert Kennedy was, eh?

I spent 20 years in the steel industry, most of it as a welder in the field. I've still got most of my tools gathering dust out in the garage, but none of them are less-used than this tool's brain. He would be comical if he wasn't so pathetically puerile and imbecilic.

Blues

Bluhbluhbluhblubbluh
 
No we live in a different world from yours. It's a world called "REALITY". You and Bluesstringer should visit it occassionally. Please don't tell everyone else what a sheltered life they live because you don't know anything about the real NRA. If anything YOUR life is sheltered. I lived most of my adult life in the streets as a cop and a paramedic. I did gunsmithing for years. I've traveled the world. I've actually had to shoot people to protect my life as a citizen. With real gun too! I also know many NRA Board Members and Officials PERSONALLY. I know the support and backing the NRA has given me as a citizen and politically. I'm not buying the Anti-NRA Conspiracy Crap. You guys talk alot but you don't know jack about the NRA. But feel good about yourself. You're in good company. People like Diane Fienstein, Chuck Schummer and Piers Morgan agree with you wholeheartedly. I can always tell you coneheads who start bad-mouthing the NRA, because you have no real knowlege of any of the crap you are spreading.

I've seen it my entire life. When people need to stick together and prevent or accomplish something, you always have these negative know-it-alls standing on the sidelines telling everybody that the leadership is flawed. That you can't trust people that you know you can trust, and usually it's by some @$$hole sitting in his recliner telling everyone who's doing the work. I don't know where you get your information from about the NRA but I guarantee it's not from knowing these people personally and having seen these things first hand. But you have the internet, so I guess that makes you an expert. But to be honest with you and a one or two others on this site, if you were in a military or tight law enforcement team that faced REAL bad guys, instead of on TV, you'd get your @$$ kicked for breaking down morale.

I'm sorry that you seem to be such a childish person to have to resort to anger and name calling in your posts. To have spent your life doing such brave deeds as you claim (especially the gunsmithing), you surely seem childish in your response to my post. For your information I spent twenty-two years in the military, including two years in Vietnam, so I've faced a few bad guys with guns, also. But I've only been around the world four or five times, so you may have me beat there even though it has absolutely nothing to do with my post. However, nothing in my lifetime keeps me from researching facts or understanding truth... in fact my experiences have helped me to have enough sense to do so.
I fear that you also are suffering from anosognosia as do many liberals, because you completely ignore facts. We have simply stated (with facts included) why we don't support the NRA. And then we seem to have to keep answering ignorant harangues from those less informed, because we chose to speak the truth. If that's hard for you to stomach, maybe you should sit back, breathe deeply, and take another ulcer pill...
 
I'm just as pro-2A as everyone else on here, but honestly, if this were ever to happen, I'd hand them over, and here's why. At this point in my life nothing, and I mean nothing, means more to me than my family. If given the choice between resisting and risking death (and thus being unable to be with my family) or complying and living under tyranny (but coming out alive and still have my family) I'd choose option 2. Besides, the government has police dressed in full body armor, fully automatic weapons, tanks, and nukes. No private citizen has an arsenal that can match that. Trying to resist that with my arsenal (a handgun and a 12 gauge pump shotgun) would be a suicide mission. If I were single, then resisting would cross my mind, but as a family man, my family will always come first, and as far as I'm concerned, they're better off having me alive and disarmed than dead with a pistol in my hand.

I think I get this for the most part. Don't agree that it's the best choice, but I do get it.

As I was reading it, I was reminded of some of the history I've read that has led me to view resistance to tyranny much differently than this poster does. One of the better examples can be found in the immortal words from "Gulag Archipelago"...

"Oh how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and every step on the staircase but had UNDERSTOOD they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers or whatever else was at hand."

For the people here who may have never read this classic...it's not fiction. It's a first party accounting of Solzhentsyn's incarceration in the Soviet gulags. Get the Cliff Notes if you don't have time to read the book.

THIS is the history we speak of repeating itself.

THIS is the same evil I am committed to resist. Evil doesn't change with the passage of time. Its source remains the same, and the ONLY thing that will, or can, repel it is the protection of God girding you to stand against it.

I will not try to change the mind of the poster who triggered this reply, nor will I be harsh in stating that I will handle that pounding on the door differently than he. I will only say that once it starts, the evil of tyranny will spare no one, no family, no community, nor the entire country. Evil's sights are set globally. The more pain and chaos Satan can foment in society, the happier and more successful he will be. You will be punished for showing your strength, and punished just as bad, if not worse, for showing lack of faith, weakness and submission. Thugs always prey on the weak, and Satan is the #1 thug in the universe.

Good luck and God Bless.

Blues
 
There will always be those who have no will to bring a fight to the game, and that's fine with me. The sacrifices by man is not always absolute as one must pay the consequences of their actions; good or bad.

Hand wringers never can make a decision, but patriots see no debate.

Sometimes what's best for me is what's best for my family.

Just saying.

-178S
 
Then you deserve neither liberty or freedom; you are part of the problem...

No, I just value my family above all else.

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Yes, you value servitude and false security over freedom and liberty thus enslaving your children into servitude as well...

Good job...

According to your bio, you don't even carry a sidearm because you were shot and it was stolen from you :rolleyes: trolololololololol
 
I'd like to ask BLUESTRINGER and UATKP.... What is it that you are actually doing to defend our Second Amendment Rights? I'm interested to know just exactly what action you are taking. I mean..... besides sitting on your fat asses in a recliner with a keyboard, storing ammunition while hurling insults and demeaning NRA Members? Is that the extent of your experience and action for the 2A? Just wondering.
 
I'd like to ask BLUESTRINGER and UATKP.... What is it that you are actually doing to defend our Second Amendment Rights? I'm interested to know just exactly what action you are taking. I mean..... besides sitting on your fat asses in a recliner with a keyboard, storing ammunition while hurling insults and demeaning NRA Members? Is that the extent of your experience and action for the 2A? Just wondering.

I know you called those two out, but I assure you we do a lot more than just send in $25 a year to a organization that was best described as "a political whore."

I spend much more money in the fighting for our 2A rights than the majority of NRA members. Ie: Use of my time and physical abilities to help others get to and from political gatherings (gas and vehicles are not cheap), producing signs that not everyone has the artistic abilities to make (that I made on my own time as well). Open carrying 99% of the time to set a positive example.

As I said in the other thread, when I invest in a cause, I expect positive movement. If there is no movement, then I have failed, and the cause has failed. The NRA is failing because they are continually satisfied with being in a stalemate.

So now, let us ask YOU, what have YOU done besides pay your membership fee and sitting your fat ass on a love seat watching your "political whore" of an organization compromise your rights away?
 
I know you called those two out, but I assure you we do a lot more than just send in $25 a year to a organization that was best described as "a political whore."

I spend much more money in the fighting for our 2A rights than the majority of NRA members. Ie: Use of my time and physical abilities to help others get to and from political gatherings (gas and vehicles are not cheap), producing signs that not everyone has the artistic abilities to make (that I made on my own time as well). Open carrying 99% of the time to set a positive example.

As I said in the other thread, when I invest in a cause, I expect positive movement. If there is no movement, then I have failed, and the cause has failed. The NRA is failing because they are continually satisfied with being in a stalemate.

So now, let us ask YOU, what have YOU done besides pay your membership fee and sitting your fat ass on a love seat watching your "political whore" of an organization compromise your rights away?

Excellent response see post below.
 
I know you called those two out, but I assure you we do a lot more than just send in $25 a year to a organization that was best described as "a political whore."

nobody described the NRA as a "political whore" except you, just now.

I spend much more money in the fighting for our 2A rights than the majority of NRA members. Ie: Use of my time and physical abilities to help others get to and from political gatherings (gas and vehicles are not cheap), producing signs that not everyone has the artistic abilities to make (that I made on my own time as well). Open carrying 99% of the time to set a positive example.
As do I, the evil stupid lowly redneck NRA member.
As I said in the other thread, when I invest in a cause, I expect positive movement. If there is no movement, then I have failed, and the cause has failed. The NRA is failing because they are continually satisfied with being in a stalemate.
I would not call our situation a "stalemate," considering that all but 3 states allow average joe to carry. I would call itme liberal death rattle.m,you know, the sound a punctured lung makes as its owner dies...
So now, let us ask YOU, what have YOU done besides pay your membership fee and sitting your fat ass on a love seat watching your "political whore" of an organization compromise your rights away?

when you join the NRA. You have the option to be put on mailing lists which enable you to contribute any free time you may be able to. Just because you drive people back and forth doesn't mean you're the only one doing something. If he borrows his American Rifleman to even his brother, he has distributed message that gun owners need to get out. There's many people on our side who don't know what NRA even stands for! If he out his NRA decal in his car window, how many people see it? If he subscribed to the political alerts, he likely received the 2012 firearms fact cards and bumper stickers in the mail. He can now reference them in a debate, hand them out, or copy and distribute them. Anything he does with his membership materials is contributing to the cause.
 
I'd like to ask BLUESTRINGER and UATKP.... What is it that you are actually doing to defend our Second Amendment Rights? I'm interested to know just exactly what action you are taking. I mean..... besides sitting on your fat asses in a recliner with a keyboard, storing ammunition while hurling insults and demeaning NRA Members? Is that the extent of your experience and action for the 2A? Just wondering.

Nothing that I or UATKP could say would satisfy you. Your demeanor with us has disqualified you to ask me to justify myself to you anyway, but the truth is, even if I went there, you would scoff at it, call me a fat ass just because your gun-control organization is deprived of my $25 bucks a year, call "HORSESH!T" on any documentation I provide supporting my positions without even cracking open a link, or if you do look at a link, you ignore it and continue to argue with your authoritarian, demanding, insulting tone without addressing a single issue raised by the link(s). You come here ranting on us as though you were still in uniform and I just refused to show you ID as you approached me illegally because I was open carrying or some such manufactured "violation." Screw you. You had your chance to have a conversation, and you blew it. So keep talking to yourself, because every time I see that ridiculous red and bold print, I'm gonna scroll right on by.

Blues
 
I'd like to ask BLUESTRINGER and UATKP.... What is it that you are actually doing to defend our Second Amendment Rights? I'm interested to know just exactly what action you are taking. I mean..... besides sitting on your fat asses in a recliner with a keyboard, storing ammunition while hurling insults and demeaning NRA Members? Is that the extent of your experience and action for the 2A? Just wondering.

Okay, DS. For one thing, I am not demeaning anyone. If you want to be a member of an organization that supports gun control/firearms regulations that is up to you. I don't care, although I wonder what you are doing to make them stop bargaining away our rights.
For another thing, my ass isn't fat. I'm 5'10" and weigh 160 lbs. Please don't describe me with your own description.
Though it is none of your business, this is a copy of the last letter I sent to my legislators, big shot. Now you may kiss my little skinny ass.

January 12, 2013

Honorable Congressman Thornberry,

It is time to quit pu$$y-footing around with the Constitution of the Republic of the United States. Some legislators, along with President Obama, are systematically circumventing our Bill of Rights every chance they get, and nobody’s doing anything about it. The Constitution is our Rule of Law!

I would like to remind you that when you took office, you swore an oath: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; …”

I also remind you that our Constitution includes the 2nd Amendment: “…the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

The right to keep and bear arms was considered so fundamental to a free people that it was the Second Amendment, second only to freedom of religion and free speech. I also remind you that it guaranteed the right of the people to keep and bear, what were at the time, state-of-the-art military weapons.

Any elected official who proposes, or supports, any legislation that attempts to overturn or limit the Second Amendment is in violation of their oath and they must be removed from office. Their act must be considered an act of Treason against the United States of America and should be prosecuted as such.

I expect you to stand firm in support of the Constitution, to honor your oath and to denounce the traitors for what they are. By "any legislation", I consider this to include any sort of so-called 'assault weapons' ban, 'high-capacity' magazine ban, gun registration, outrageous ammunition tax, private weapons sales government intervention, face-to-face only ammunition sales, any type of gun registration and/or any other infringement.

I will not be disarmed to suit the fear that has been established by the media and the misinformation campaign against the American public. I will not register any weapon I currently own, nor any I acquire in the future. It is not the government's right to know what I own.

Common sense and statistics both prove that gun restrictions do not save innocent lives. Restricting people from the right and responsibility to protect themselves and others by establishing "Gun-Free Zones" is one of the most irresponsible and asinine regulations our government has ever imposed. A true law maker, representing the American people, should be doing everything in his/her power to remove such idiotic, foolish and unsafe regulations. So far, I have seen very little support or discussion from Washington to do just this.

You are responsible not only to the American people, but to God Himself. I suggest you seriously consider the oath you took, because God - and the voters - will hold you accountable for your actions in this regard.

Another problem I've seen with with today's politicians is the fact that they never seem to give much more than a second of their time for the people they are supposed to be working for. They reply to emails with some simple, standardized, form letter, one-size-fits-all, for each particular issue.

I look forward to your response.

Sincerely,
 

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