Article Warns of Violent Response To Pending Gun Control Lefislation

[dogshawred]

Consequences of our Actions

The sacrifices by man is not always absolute as one must pay the consequences of their actions; good or bad.

Hand wringers never can make a decision, but patriots see no debate.

-178S

I was raised by a wonderful set of parents that taught me my most valued lesson at a young age: "You can DO anything you want in this world as long as your are prepared and willing to pay the consequences of your actions."

This has served me well over the years as it has taught me to pause and consider the consequences I would suffer for my actions. It has really never stopped me from doing what I feel is morally correct or faithfully appropriate. Because doing what is right is always right, correct or proper however you want to say it.

Standing up to those who would infringe on our rights will require a consequence to be paid at some point and I am willing to pay that consequence as my part in our needed resistance to any evil. Be aware that evil will come and it will be relentless in its desire to totally consume what is right in the eyes of our God.

God Bless us all.

 

[Firefighterchen]

I know you called those two out, but I assure you we do a lot more than just send in $25 a year to a organization that was best described as "a political whore."

nobody described the NRA as a "political whore" except you, just now.

I spend much more money in the fighting for our 2A rights than the majority of NRA members. Ie: Use of my time and physical abilities to help others get to and from political gatherings (gas and vehicles are not cheap), producing signs that not everyone has the artistic abilities to make (that I made on my own time as well). Open carrying 99% of the time to set a positive example.
As do I, the evil stupid lowly redneck NRA member.Your words, not mine, but I won't argue them.
As I said in the other thread, when I invest in a cause, I expect positive movement. If there is no movement, then I have failed, and the cause has failed. The NRA is failing because they are continually satisfied with being in a stalemate.
I would not call our situation a "stalemate," considering that all but 3 states allow average joe to carry. I would call itme liberal death rattle.m,you know, the sound a punctured lung makes as its owner dies...
So now, let us ask YOU, what have YOU done besides pay your membership fee and sitting your fat ass on a love seat watching your "political whore" of an organization compromise your rights away?

when you join the NRA. You have the option to be put on mailing lists which enable you to contribute any free time you may be able to. Just because you drive people back and forth doesn't mean you're the only one doing something.

I'm not sure when I said I was the only one? He asked what we non nra members did, so we answered him.

If he borrows his American Rifleman to even his brother, he has distributed message that gun owners need to get out. There's many people on our side who don't know what NRA even stands for! If he out his NRA decal in his car window, how many people see it? If he subscribed to the political alerts, he likely received the 2012 firearms fact cards and bumper stickers in the mail. He can now reference them in a debate, hand them out, or copy and distribute them. Anything he does with his membership materials is contributing to the cause.

That's nice? And I care because? Yes, hand out materials from a group that wants there to be more infringements. Maybe not an outright ban, but "common sense gun legislature and education." Contributing to which cause again? The "shall not be infringed" cause? Or the gun control cause?

The nice thing about people who don't know how to use proper grammar, is that I can take what they say (even if their intended meaning may have been different) and literally use it against them. It has been described that way before, you even acknowledged it in the other thread (if you don't remember it was the one you created when you were throwing your temper tantrum when the first NRA thread tore your arguments up...which wasn't hard since your only arguments are "bluhbluhbluh")

 

[JimPage]

This bickering really gets tiresome!!!!!!

 

[BluesStringer]

This bickering really gets tiresome!!!!!!

And your opinion on this score should matter, why? You just "Liked" a post by a guy who surmised that anyone who doesn't agree with him, after he literally demanded agreement right off the bat, is necessarily, "....sitting on your fat asses in a recliner with a keyboard, storing ammunition while hurling insults and demeaning NRA Members...."

You "Like" that crap, so I guess your scolding is for the rest of us who think that poster is the one fomenting discontent and simply defend ourselves against his verbal attacks. Frustrated with seeing it? Show some self-control and don't click on the threads where that jackass and his ternary-tinted-sire are spewing.

Blues

 

[1911 Headbanger]

Nothing that I or UATKP could say would satisfy you. Your demeanor with us has disqualified you to ask me to justify myself to you anyway, but the truth is, even if I went there, you would scoff at it, call me a fat ass just because your gun-control organization is deprived of my $25 bucks a year, call "HORSESH!T" on any documentation I provide supporting my positions without even cracking open a link, or if you do look at a link, you ignore it and continue to argue with your authoritarian, demanding, insulting tone without addressing a single issue raised by the link(s). You come here ranting on us as though you were still in uniform and I just refused to show you ID as you approached me illegally because I was open carrying or some such manufactured "violation." Screw you. You had your chance to have a conversation, and you blew it. So keep talking to yourself, because every time I see that ridiculous red and bold print, I'm gonna scroll right on by.

Blues

Yeah, that's just what I thought, NOTHING. Sitting on your fat ass in a recliner with a keyboard, insulting NRA Members. My question has been answered. Of course I realize that since you've been bullying NRA people on this forum for a while, that you would consider ANY response to you as Insulting, and authoritarian. Maybe you should go back and read some of your posts. It appears that you can insult and act like a Pompous Ass toward others, but anyone that responds to you is suddenly authoritarian, demeaning and insulting. Hilarious. But thanks for answering my question. Now I understand. Like I said, NOTHING. You're sole existance in the 2A Fight is playing on a computer on a forum and pointing out what YOU believe are everyone elses negatives. It figures.

 

[1911 Headbanger]

I know you called those two out, but I assure you we do a lot more than just send in $25 a year to a organization that was best described as "a political whore."

I spend much more money in the fighting for our 2A rights than the majority of NRA members. Ie: Use of my time and physical abilities to help others get to and from political gatherings (gas and vehicles are not cheap), producing signs that not everyone has the artistic abilities to make (that I made on my own time as well). Open carrying 99% of the time to set a positive example.

As I said in the other thread, when I invest in a cause, I expect positive movement. If there is no movement, then I have failed, and the cause has failed. The NRA is failing because they are continually satisfied with being in a stalemate.

So now, let us ask YOU, what have YOU done besides pay your membership fee and sitting your fat ass on a love seat watching your "political whore" of an organization compromise your rights away?

Thank You for your service to the 2A. I started very young, as my Dad was a cop, avid hunter, competitive shooter and firearms instructor. My entire family, Mom, Dad and Sister were active sports shooters, hunters and NRA members. I grew up doing the things I was taught. Hunting, competitive shooter, Firearms Instructor, and later a Paramedic and moved into Law Enforcement. I worked Part-time doing gunsmithing work and custom reloading as a means of extra income. I am a Life Member of the NRA and have been for many years. I have taught hundreds of free Gun Safety Classes for Women that were sponsored by the Police Union at the time. These classes began after I responded to many calls in the night by women who heard stange noises, alarms or prowlers. Many had guns but didn't know how to properly handle those guns. After petitioning local businesses to support the idea of classes for women, only a few responded, but the Police Union did fund the supplies, provided a range and classroom. Classes involved classsroom basics and range time with their own guns, and some supplied by me from my personal collection.

I am a Volunteer Hunter Safety Instructor and became a local volunteer supporting hunting and gun issues. I spoke on gun issues and the Second Amendment at local schools and College classes at 4 different Universities. After leaving Law Enforcement and working as a Gunsmith, I became active in campaigns of local state and federal elected officials who supported Second Amendment Issues. Further, I've participated, transported donated time and money to anything from protest demonstrations, rallies, and actively spoken in open forums for defeating Gun Control. I've spoken to assemblies at the State Capitol, spoken in political forums of elected officials and talked to the news media. I've done everything from spending personal times putting up yard signs, to transporting people to the range. I donate money to NRA-ILA, the Second Amendment Foundation and JFPO.

 

[Firefighterchen]

Thank You for your service to the 2A. I started very young, as my Dad was a cop, avid hunter, competitive shooter and firearms instructor. My entire family, Mom, Dad and Sister were active sports shooters, hunters and NRA members. I grew up doing the things I was taught. Hunting, competitive shooter, Firearms Instructor, and later a Paramedic and moved into Law Enforcement. I worked Part-time doing gunsmithing work and custom reloading as a means of extra income. I am a Life Member of the NRA and have been for many years. I have taught hundreds of free Gun Safety Classes for Women that were sponsored by the Police Union at the time. These classes began after I responded to many calls in the night by women who heard stange noises, alarms or prowlers. Many had guns but didn't know how to properly handle those guns. After petitioning local businesses to support the idea of classes for women, only a few responded, but the Police Union did fund the supplies, provided a range and classroom. Classes involved classsroom basics and range time with their own guns, and some supplied by me from my personal collection.

I am a Volunteer Hunter Safety Instructor and became a local volunteer supporting hunting and gun issues. I spoke on gun issues and the Second Amendment at local schools and College classes at 4 different Universities. After leaving Law Enforcement and working as a Gunsmith, I became active in campaigns of local state and federal elected officials who supported Second Amendment Issues. Further, I've participated, transported donated time and money to anything from protest demonstrations, rallies, and actively spoken in open forums for defeating Gun Control. I've spoken to assemblies at the State Capitol, spoken in political forums of elected officials and talked to the news media. I've done everything from spending personal times putting up yard signs, to transporting people to the range. I donate money to NRA-ILA, the Second Amendment Foundation and JFPO.

Good so it seems everyone, you, blues (despite you completely ignoring all his other posts of what he actually does...o well), UATKP, and I all support our various organizations in our own way. BUT...reading on your history and professional experience, I am going to assume, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, you are in full support of gun control in the form of: permits, required training, and fees. Afterall, a large portion of your business is funded by these requirements, aka infringements. It's a no brainer why you support the NRA now, and why I will not support the NRA.

 

[VT Patriot]

Shhh - - Vermont is a right to carry state. Walk in to a LGS, walk out with a weapon in your hand after filling out the ncis form, paying the bill, and picking your favorite ammo. Super Lib state, but everybody hunts up here, so the gubmint has stayed away from anything that would get them all thrown out of office. Oh, and second to Alaska for lowest violent crime rate per capita. What a coincidence........

 

[Numenor]

Just one comment on all of this... it is not treason to try and change the Constitution legally though the amendment process.

 

[Firefighterchen]

Shhh - - Vermont is a right to carry state. Walk in to a LGS, walk out with a weapon in your hand after filling out the ncis form, paying the bill, and picking your favorite ammo. Super Lib state, but everybody hunts up here, so the gubmint has stayed away from anything that would get them all thrown out of office. Oh, and second to Alaska for lowest violent crime rate per capita. What a coincidence........

I thought Alaska was one of the highest violent crime states?

 

[UATKP]

Just one comment on all of this... it is not treason to try and change the Constitution legally though the amendment process.

It is if you change one of the first ten, which is The Bill of Rights, by executing an order that would make it moot.

 

[Numenor]

It is if you try to change one of the first ten, which is The Bill of Rights.

Please show me where it says that. Last I looked the Bill of Rights is just a name applied to the first ten amendments, there is nothing in their adoption distinguishing them as sacrosanct any more than the rest of the Constitution.

 

[BluesStringer]

Please show me where it says that. Last I looked the Bill of Rights is just a name applied to the first ten amendments, there is nothing in their adoption distinguishing them as sacrosanct any more than the rest of the Constitution.

Maybe the reason you didn't understand his answer is that you put a period where he had a comma. Try responding to his whole sentence, including that which came after the comma.

 

[Numenor]

Maybe the reason you didn't understand his answer is that you put a period where he had a comma. Try responding to his whole sentence, including that which came after the comma.

Or perhaps he realized he was caught flat out in a statement that had no basis and edited his post after I hit the quote button. Regardless what he says, it is NOT treason to amending ANY part of the Constitution, provided that amendment process is done legally and according to the process laid out. Saying it is treason is just pure stupidity and he knew it, hence why he changed his post to alter what he said.

 

[BluesStringer]

I donate money to NRA-ILA, the Second Amendment Foundation and JFPO.

Hmm....I wonder if the JPFO can cash your checks when you misspell their name. Maybe you're hyping yourself up and you don't even know what JPFO stands for? And why would you send them money anyway? They are the source of much of my information about the NRA. They think the exact same things as I do about them. Clicking one of those links will prove it to you. Well, if you bothered to actually read them, that is. I guess JPFO do NOTHING for the 2nd Amendment too.

I tried to tell this guy the truth that I am not "anti-NRA" earlier. They do some things well, and some things even GREAT! I took my first NRA safety class at age 9 when our local YMCA brought them in. I took many more safety and competition shooting classes before and during high school while I was on the last rifle team in Los Angeles County before CA went nuts and stopped allowing rifle teams. When my wife decided she wanted to carry, I attended NRA basic pistol classes with her just to have something to do together. When I drove armored trucks, our company trainer had to be an NRA-qualified instructor before he qualified for the job. I have sought to further my training on my own dime at ShootRite Firearms Academy in Langston, AL by taking their defensive pistol, rifle and shotgun courses, which my wife took with me, and every instructor at that school is NRA-certified to the Nth degree. The NRA is great at all that stuff, and I don't regret a single dime I've spent (or my mom spent lo those many years ago) taking and/or being trained for work just because the NRA was in the chain of people who earned money in the process.

They are terrible on gun control issues though. The history is so clear, so unquestionable, and so much a betrayal of what they portray themselves to be, that I don't send them my money for political purposes. If I want safety and/or shooting training, I have no problem paying them for what they're good at. If I want representation in WA DC though, I either take it upon myself to represent myself, or contribute to organizations for which I have no fear they will waste my contributions on compromises that don't serve my interests. If that ain't good enough for the blowhard that doesn't even know the names of the organizations he claims to support, meh, I really couldn't care any less. Internet tough guys don't impress me much.

Blues

 

[One78Shovel]

I was raised by a wonderful set of parents that taught me my most valued lesson at a young age: "You can DO anything you want in this world as long as your are prepared and willing to pay the consequences of your actions."

This has served me well over the years as it has taught me to pause and consider the consequences I would suffer for my actions. It has really never stopped me from doing what I feel is morally correct or faithfully appropriate. Because doing what is right is always right, correct or proper however you want to say it.

You get it my friend. I was taught by my father this very simple premise he routinely repeated; "There are consequences son for EVERY decision you make in life. The key is to have more positive consequences than negative ones".

I'm not certain Americans, even some on USA Carry w/good intentions, have truly experienced (and understood) the consequences of their actions. It's a very powerful tool when there is absence of other data to aid the decision making process. Our society, for a multitude of reasons, has shunned away from a consequence driven society. CEO's flying in jets are evil. Being wealthy is tabu, even racist. Everyone gets a trophy, Student of the Month, etc. Many are not willing to make the sacrifices (sometimes a negative consequence) to live in freedom, unencumbered by tyranny.

When I was 19 I took an oath to defend the Constitution. Back then, the defense was on foerign soil but now the foerign soil is what used to be called AMERICA. If the country reaches the bottom on my watch, my life becomes secondary as freedom will reign supreme.

Prepare, Defend, Protect

-178S

 

[tattedupboy]

I need to change my bio. Yes, I was shot and disarmed back in January of '09, but I have since recovered and and am carrying again. As for the subject of this thread, just because some of you say you'd resist government agents coming to your door to confiscate your firearms and I wouldn't, doesn't make me any less patriotic or pro-2A than any of you. What I'm saying is that in the grand scheme of things, my family is more important than anything else. I'd rather be alive and with them than dead with a pistol in my hand and telling everyone in heaven that I died (and left them without their provider) resisting government agents in full body armor. But please don't make the mistake mistake of thinking that I won't do everything in my power (ie., writing/emailing/calling members of Congress, or financially supporting a gun rights organization) to make sure nothing like that ever happens. All I'm saying is, I refuse to jeopardize my family's livelihood by resisting if a government confiscation are ever to happen.

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[doublebarr]

I need to change my bio. Yes, I was shot and disarmed back in January of '09, but I have since recovered and and am carrying again. As for the subject of this thread, just because some of you say you'd resist government agents coming to your door to confiscate your firearms and I wouldn't, doesn't make me any less patriotic or pro-2A than any of you. What I'm saying is that in the grand scheme of things, my family is more important than anything else. I'd rather be alive and with them than dead with a pistol in my hand and telling everyone in heaven that I died (and left them without their provider) resisting government agents in full body armor. But please don't make the mistake mistake of thinking that I won't do everything in my power (ie., writing/emailing/calling members of Congress, or financially supporting a gun rights organization) to make sure nothing like that ever happens. All I'm saying is, I refuse to jeopardize my family's livelihood by resisting if a government confiscation are ever to happen.

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Have you even bothered to read your signature line? Really???

Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.

Benjamin Franklin

I think you need to change it

 

[tattedupboy]

Have you even bothered to read your signature line? Really???



I think you need to change it

And did you read my entire post? I'm pretty I said in it somewhere that I would play my part by doing everything in my power to make sure it never gets to that point. In my opinion, prevention>resistance after the fact.

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