Most Cops are Good?

[SGT504MP]

Depends on your definition of "good." They are immune from most laws applied vigorously to the rest of us, and they are paid with money and property stolen from the rest of us..

Not my definition of any kind of "good."

Judges & District Attorney's are generally immune from civil suits arising out of the exercise of their duties. Police Officers are not provided that protection except in special cases.

BTW, do you think tha funding the Maintenance of the national highways, the air traffic control system, national defense, ect is "money stolen from you?"

 

[Bang]

You can't rip up tickets for a buddy anymore, but the officer that wrote the ticket can show up on the hearing date and recommend that it be dismissed.

This happens all the time with no questions asked by the magistrate.

I have been a cop for 13 years and I have never once witnessed or heard about another cop I know trying to jam someone up for a crime they didn't commit just to get a clearance.

I'm sure it has happened, but don't let a few cases paint the thousands of good cops that do the job right.

 

[Firefighterchen]

You can't rip up tickets for a buddy anymore, but the officer that wrote the ticket can show up on the hearing date and recommend that it be dismissed.

This happens all the time with no questions asked by the magistrate.

I have been a cop for 13 years and I have never once witnessed or heard about another cop I know trying to jam someone up for a crime they didn't commit just to get a clearance.

I'm sure it has happened, but don't let a few cases paint the thousands of good cops that do the job right.

Would you arrest or ticket someone who was carrying concealed without a permit?

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[ET]

The problem is with a few people it is black or white with no grays.

You either hate cops to your very being, or you are a badge fluffer.

This Black and white , with no grays is a clinical psychological disorder...Many people have this... with some it is very noticeable, and with others is not always so easy to see..
as far as good vs. bad cops. I don't think very many people, men and woman become cops to be bad... Its a job that most take initially to make it better for their families, in the jurisdiction they patrol... Some say that statistically, being a cop is not as dangerous as a construction worker. and doesn't even make the list of ten top dangerous jobs...but it takes some big balls to walk up to a car with darkened windows day after day and not think about the odds of walking up to a real bad guy one day.. there is a certain level of honor, and service associated with contemplating a life in law enforcement... many cops slip through the psychological testing and when opportunity strikes, they prove their worthlessness... I think most cops go into the profession, on a good note, some become corrupt, like a sugar junkie patrolling a candy factory.. I am an optimist in thinking that most cops are trying to serve the public... its always the bad ones that make all the good ones look bad...
In my long life.. I've met many cops...I have two very close friends who are State Troopers.. both these guys are honorable and ethical men ( what I would call givers )... I've met a few " Takers" in the profession who think they are owed something from everyone, and I would not trust them in my home... but I think you would find that in any profession..
I will give any cop the benefit of the doubt , but with reserved courtesy and respect.
Bill aka ET

I understand that the person IM quoting is saying that only with " Some " its just black and white with no gray. and I agree.. Only with some. ( the more narrow minded persons ) its extremely hard to say that all cops are.... bad, or all cops are good...yet with some,, its one way or the other and nothing in between.

 

[BluesStringer]

I have changed my sig-line to counter the nonsense and lies about cop "haters" that permeates this board. Why anyone on the planet would ever think it odd, unfair, bigoted, or the most egregious nonsense ever heard, unpatriotic to distrust and question the authority of any agent of government, is, as Churchill once said of Russia, "...a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma."

It is impossible to successfully challenge the truth of the statement that, when it comes to interactions with cops, one just never knows until the interaction is over if they were "good" or "bad" cops. And even after that specific interaction ends and you run across one that was "good" to you before, the same process of evaluation should start over for any thinking person. Only a complete moron would treat with reverence and deference people who have the authority to take your money, property or very freedom for the most trivial and mundane of rationales, or to take your life for only slightly less trivial and mundane of rationales.

The government is not your friend, so how on Earth could any agent of government ever truly be a fully trustworthy friend? The truth is, you just never know....

Blues

 

[Deanimator]

It is impossible to successfully challenge the truth of the statement that, when it comes to interactions with cops, one just never knows until the interaction is over if they were "good" or "bad" cops.

That's because "the narrative" (not unlike the "hands up, don't shoot" narrative in its dishonesty) demands that in ALL instances, the cop is "good", no matter WHAT he does. IF he, backed up by UNDENIABLE evidence, did something "bad", it's because he was "having a bad day", and or the victim was "playing the ghetto lottery" (even if "he" was a Polish-American woman). Strangely, the badge fluffers don't react well if you posit that Mumia Abu Jamal might have been "having a bad day", or that his victim was "playing the donut lottery"...

 

[Bang]

Would you arrest or ticket someone who was carrying concealed without a permit?

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It would depend on the circumstances. A couple times I have because they were complete trash bag drug dealers that were prohibited people anyway.

Once I let a guy from OH ship his gun home with a warning where he could have got years in jail if convicted. He came here for work and didn't understand how things worked in the peoples republic of Massachusetts

 

[Firefighterchen]

It would depend on the circumstances. A couple times I have because they were complete trash bag drug dealers that were prohibited people anyway.

Once I let a guy from OH ship his gun home with a warning where he could have got years in jail if convicted. He came here for work and didn't understand how things worked in the peoples republic of Massachusetts

Drug dealers.....smh

The guy you warned... You warned him to not exercise his rights in your state? That's how "things work" for your ma pd? I wouldn't consider a cop good if he threatens years of imprisonment for someone exercising their 2A Right to keep and bear arms.

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[Axeanda45]

Bang, You are a perfect example of what is wrong with most all who wear badges... YOU THINK you are doing good, when in actuality, you are using Unconstitutional/fake/unlawful "laws" to INFRINGE on people Constitutional Rights.... The sad thing is, you, and those just like you cannot even begin to see what is wrong with doing that.....

 

[Bang]

There is the way things "should" be and the way they actually are. I don't write the laws.

Do you really think I shouldn't have warned the guy that he was unknowingly committing a felony? That would be a pretty crappy move on my part to let him get pinched.

I also believe that predators should not be free to walk around armed so it's easier for them to victimize others.

Welcome to reality

 

[NavyLCDR]

I also believe that predators should not be free to walk around armed so it's easier for them to victimize others.

Welcome to reality

Gun control laws don't stop criminals from committing crimes with guns. Gun control laws keep law abiding citizens from being able to defend themselves.

 

[Deanimator]

I also believe that predators should not be free to walk around armed so it's easier for them to victimize others.

What's your plan for doing that?

I know what Bloomberg's is.

 

[BluesStringer]

I also believe that predators should not be free to walk around armed so it's easier for them to victimize others.

Welcome to reality

Gun control laws don't stop criminals from committing crimes with guns. Gun control laws keep law abiding citizens from being able to defend themselves.

Two versions of "reality" clearly defined. True reality only comes in one version. I pick Navy's as the true reality, and reject Bang's "reality" as that of a willful denier of the unambiguous fundamental natural right of all people to not only defend themselves against victimizers, but against the government that has brainwashed him to believe that the above post is in any way consistent the staunch conservative ideology he seeks to establish for himself in this post.

When it comes to gun control, there is no difference *in reality* between so-called conservatives and so-called libtards. You either believe in and adhere to the Second Amendment as-written, or you have no valid claim to being a conservative.

This is not directed at only Bang. He is but one among many on this board who illegitimately claim to be pro-2A. They all need a reality check.

Blues

 

[Firefighterchen]

There is the way things "should" be and the way they actually are. I don't write the laws.

Bad cops, use hollow excuses, to continue the way things are, instead of making things the way they should be.

Do you really think I shouldn't have warned the guy that he was unknowingly committing a felony? That would be a pretty crappy move on my part to let him get pinched.

Yes, tell him your pd/state wants to oppress his right to bear arms, but you will defend his right. That's what a good cop would do, one who prioritizes the constitution over a paycheck.

I also believe that predators should not be free to walk around armed so it's easier for them to victimize others.

Welcome to reality

No, you would rather it be easier for them to victimize others by making others unarmed.

Reality, most cops aren't good because they will blatantly walk on people's rights because "they don't write the laws."

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[Firefighterchen]

http://redalertpolitics.com/2015/04...-worth-25000-disabled-navy-vet-spat-neighbor/

"But but...I'm not the one who issued the protective order..."

Makes everything okay right?

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[Axeanda45]

I don't write the laws.

Correct... but you DID take an oath to the CONSTITUTION.... NOT to whatever phony "law" that some usurpers or tyrants wrote.... How is it that you are a cop yet do not even know the true "LAW" of this country? nevermind.... you (and your kind) dont care anyway....

 

[Bang]

Wow. You guys are really having a great time putting words in my mouth. Not even going to bother telling you how wrong you are.

I'm a believer in constitutional carry and nothing I have posted contradicts that. I guess this is just another one of this cop bashing sites.

Duly noted

 

[Axeanda45]

Wow. You guys are really having a great time putting words in my mouth. Not even going to bother telling you how wrong you are.

I'm a believer in constitutional carry and nothing I have posted contradicts that. I guess this is just another one of this cop bashing sites.

Duly noted

Wow, ..... LIE MUCH? only 9 posts and you already are contradicting yourself......

 

[Firefighterchen]

I'm a believer in constitutional carry and nothing I have posted contradicts that.

Once I let a guy from OH ship his gun home with a warning where he could have got years in jail if convicted. He came here for work and didn't understand how things worked in the peoples republic of Massachusetts

Why did you tell him to ship his gun home if you believe in constitutional carry?

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[NavyLCDR]

Wow. You guys are really having a great time putting words in my mouth. Not even going to bother telling you how wrong you are.

I'm a believer in constitutional carry and nothing I have posted contradicts that. I guess this is just another one of this cop bashing sites.

Duly noted

I think a police officer who chooses the screen name of "Bang" says a lot.....