Are you making a habit of being pulled over?
Did you realize that you were replying to a post that was over 1 1/2 years old?!?
Are you making a habit of being pulled over?
Without the aggressiveness that you show me with your question.. I just said IM going to give the cop the courtesy of letting him know that there is a weapon in the car, its not concealed. I have two close friends who are State Highway patrol officers, and they say it " Is a courtesy that they always appreciate "... Does he have to know its there...No... its my choice to tell him, not your authority to tell me not too because of your beliefs. If you were an actual rocket scientist you might get the idea about co-operation and courtesy... I don't look at cops with the same distain that you do... I've yet to meet a cop, that was not respectful and courteous to me.How the hell is your concealed firearm going to affect the officer in any way shape or form if he never knows it is there?
Not sure if you are talking to me but I will answer as if your post was directed to me.... I didn't say it was disrespectful not to tell the cop.. I said it was a respectful and a courtesy to do so.. I do respect their position.. and I believe its a courtesy to let them know.. My position is based on two of my close friends who are State troopers.Not sure how it's disrespectful to remain silent when dealing with good and bad cops...
Definitely doesn't help when people enable the bad cops power hungry entitlement.
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Not sure if you are talking to me but I will answer as if your post was directed to me.... I didn't say it was disrespectful not to tell the cop.. I said it was a respectful and a courtesy to do so.. I do respect their position.. and I believe its a courtesy to let them know.. My position is based on two of my close friends who are State troopers.
If anyone chooses not to inform a cop that they are carrying, I don't think that is wrong, or disrespectful... I respect their position in doing so because they don't have too. Again, trying to add an opinion without getting into a pissing contest.
IM going to add one more thing because I saw it in another post here where someone asked about " being in the habit of getting pulled over "..
I've been driving for 55 years. I've been stopped 7 times for various things.. sustained driving in the left lane of a multi lane highway, dark tinted license plate cover, excessive speed, etc. I've never received a single ticket.. always a warning... I owe that to attitude....
... give the good ones the same disrespect and attitude they would give to a bad cop...
Without the aggressiveness that you show me with your question.. I just said IM going to give the cop the courtesy of letting him know that there is a weapon in the car, its not concealed. I have two close friends who are State Highway patrol officers, and they say it " Is a courtesy that they always appreciate "... Does he have to know its there...No... its my choice to tell him, not your authority to tell me not too because of your beliefs. If you were an actual rocket scientist you might get the idea about co-operation and courtesy... I don't look at cops with the same distain that you do... I've yet to meet a cop, that was not respectful and courteous to me.
Are there bad cops with attitude... sure there are, but it has not been my personal experience , so Ill keep my respectful attitude, because most of them deserve it.. Trying to keep a level head here, The problem I've seen here is that some people have different views then you, do. You keep your views and Ill keep mine... Had you asked me why I choose to tell the cop, it would have been a much less aggressive tone.. THis ( " How the hell is your concealed firearm going to affect the officer in any way shape or form if he never knows it is there?" ) has a much more aggressive tone, as if you are attacking my position . You certainly have a right to your opinion on not revealing your carry... But I also have the right to reveal it...if courtesy is my reason then , respect that as my choice ...
You are trying to be argumentative... Again... Do you think you are going to change my mind? I asked you to accept my opinion on the subject.., I didn't try to convince you that your way was wrong.. and offer reasons to change your mind.. I asked you to be courteous of my opinion... which you completely ignored. IM sitting in my car...my weapon in a holster visible from the passengers side without a problem and possibly visible from an angle outside the car... So telling him before he sees it and react negatively, which might be wrong on his part but a smart person would avoid such an encounter.. and to answer your other point I would no sooner be walking down the street and go out of my way to tell every cop I pass that I'm armed.. But I didn't want to be argumentative... AS I said I would hoping that you accept my reasoning.. but you chose to make ridicules statements about merchants in stores , .. When a cop stops me for a possible infraction of the law, it doesn't need to be escalated by him having to see a weapon in my car he is stopping for some reason. Even if he suspects me of something like a stolen car etc.. because my car fit the description of a stolen car. Store merchants are not expecting that Im a problem.. but a cop who stops me, does it for a reason... I cant believe that you can't see that reasoning... Ive been on this earth a long time, and it blows my mind as to how narrow minded some people can be.Do you extend the same courtesy to anyone else? When you walk into a convenience store where there is one or two clerks working alone, do you inform them? Why not? They don't know if you are there to buy a drink or shove a gun in their face for $50 from the drawer. Would you tell a cab driver if you ever had to use a cab? You are alone in the vehicle with them, wouldn't it be equally as courteous to them to know about your gun?
You are trying to be argumentative... Again... Do you think you are going to change my mind? I asked you to accept my opinion on the subject.., I didn't try to convince you that your way was wrong.. and offer reasons to change your mind.. I asked you to be courteous of my opinion... which you completely ignored. IM sitting in my car...my weapon in a holster visible from the passengers side without a problem and possibly visible from an angle outside the car... So telling him before he sees it and react negatively, which might be wrong on his part but a smart person would avoid such an encounter.. and to answer your other point I would no sooner be walking down the street and go out of my way to tell every cop I pass that I'm armed.. But I didn't want to be argumentative... AS I said I would hoping that you accept my reasoning.. but you chose to make ridicules statements about merchants in stores , .. When a cop stops me for a possible infraction of the law, it doesn't need to be escalated by him having to see a weapon in my car he is stopping for some reason. Even if he suspects me of something like a stolen car etc.. because my car fit the description of a stolen car. Store merchants are not expecting that Im a problem.. but a cop who stops me, does it for a reason... I cant believe that you can't see that reasoning... Ive been on this earth a long time, and it blows my mind as to how narrow minded some people can be.
As an act of good faith, I would always disclose a firearm to LE if I am stopped. I do not currently CC, but I am applying for my permit. If the cop turns out to be a douche, than so be it. But I will act responsibly at all times.
We have rights, but also responsibilities.
if the cop is a douche and many of them are, you could find your self being harassed, arrested or at the worst dead, why bring the subject up unless it is required by law?
a dog will pee on itself to show that it is submissive to another dog or it's owner, do you pee in your pants to show that you are subservient to an authority figure?Truth.
I joined just to respond to you mainly. Yes, I know this comment/thread is old, but it didn't look like much movement in the PA thread anyways.
I've been stopped 4 times while carrying. I always tell them out of respect.