Clearly you did...just couldn't help yourself. Kinda like diarrhea ain't it. Your pudgy little fingers just get an itch and plop goes the key board, almost like the cops...plop goes the trigger...I just shot me a n...oops...I better not.
Michael Brown
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Clearly you did...just couldn't help yourself. Kinda like diarrhea ain't it. Your pudgy little fingers just get an itch and plop goes the key board, almost like the cops...plop goes the trigger...I just shot me a n...oops...I better not.
Deanimator
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I'm not inclined to give EITHER the cops OR the "community organizers" the benefit of the doubt, since BOTH have a HUGE incentive to LIE, and a LONG history of doing so.
Of course with the arrests of the reporters, the police are [as usual] living down to stereotype. It's pretty much a truism that criminals don't like incriminating evidence (room temperature IQ looters, aside). When a cop doesn't want his picture taken in the course of his public duties, you can pretty much be guaranteed that he's either up to no good, or plans to be.
Of course with the arrests of the reporters, the police are [as usual] living down to stereotype. It's pretty much a truism that criminals don't like incriminating evidence (room temperature IQ looters, aside). When a cop doesn't want his picture taken in the course of his public duties, you can pretty much be guaranteed that he's either up to no good, or plans to be.
Firefighterchen
OC for Tactical Advantage
As to everything you've said- that was my view - my speculation- for saying the thug is a liar and not in response to the LEO. You seem to be illiterate but I said that when I heard that 8 bullets were counted by the examiner- THAT IS ALOT.
Open minded bigot? You're going to call me that? I'm prejudice but I'm not racist. Just as my thoughts are as different as the definition between obsession and compulsion. What is the difference between my prejudice and those of the looters? My prejudicial thoughts remain as thoughts- and not manifested into actions. That's what.
You seem to group my coining of "thugs" as siding with cops- how are the two related? And then you were bold enough to call me a bigot. Wave your thug flag. Wave it high. I find being called bigot offensive. As offensive as if someone were to call you an ignorant chink. (I think I'm the prettier Chen tho?)
I am open minded bc when good facts persuade me - I will change my opinion. You however - are ignorant and have no room to learn.
On an other note -
I watched current breaking news- and was pretty put off by the police brutality that was displayed against the reporters. My bigotry sways me to listen to reporters over people jumping in front of the cameras. Which in this case - goes hand in hand with those twitter updates. I don't know what to think at this moment.
And as for you Blue- did you happen to look up the definition of a bigot? Openmindness and bigotry don't go hand in hand. I'm prejudice but I will sway my opinions when i hear good point. So if anyone is capable of being a Bigot- it is you. Find me a thread where you have humbly told someone- hey sorry. I am wrong and from here on- I change my opinion. - where you have not vehemently stuck to your perspective?
One day- it will be just you and FFCHEN on here- talking to each other- bc neither one of you can find a way to respectfully disagree with people.
You think you're something special on here? Most people don't type out their disagreement with you bc you have the time to type out your verbal "assaults"- and they don't. If you're going to go as far as make it this nasty- and telling me that you don't give two craps about what I think- then press ignore and get the hell off my thread.
You live off these threads don't you? You live off of taking people's words and making big lengthy speeds about them. "How have I tried to censor you... Blah ... I'm not the moderator" well obviously. You say obvious and very stupid things- just for the sake of an argument. You're not here to learn. You're here to argue. Why are you here?? What have YOU learned from this forum? I would say you've contributed good information. From which I myself have learned. But how about you? Or do you think you're God- and FFCHEN your pathetic little bigot calling apostle?
And lastly - to answer your question- regarding if the two witnesses are proven right- and how I would react to it. What do you think? I would be the first one here to say- I was wrong. And it's a lesson learned. But here's a question for you- are YOU capable of learning and admitting when YOU are wrong?
Have I called you a bigot? I am transparent and accountable enough to announce my prejudice against thugs- yet with your all against LEO and UNCLE SAM IS COMING FOR YA- I could say you sound like bigot AND a traitor-
So much hate, prejudice, and now another attempt at racism. You keep that open mindedness...it's doing you wonders pretty one.
bigoted: having or revealing an obstinate belief in the superiority of one's own opinions and a prejudiced intolerance of the opinions of others
Looks like it indeed does go hand in hand with open mindedness.
Ps: no that doesn't offend me. By all definitions of the term chink, it actually defines me perfectly as I do indeed work on the railroad...so we define each other accurately I must say.
All this hate based off a post ridiculing unconfirmed sources and information.
Let's keep cheering, Thugs! Thugs! Thugs!
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Courtney.cj.chen
Courtney
Where was the racism? Where is the hate? Hate involves caring about a topic enough to invoke a strong feeling. But I'll give my feelings towards these thug opportunists a "strong dislike".
Hmmm from your definition- you seem quite the bigot yourself in this thread. You cast the first stone yet you live in a glass house. Nothing any one says from an opposing view will sway you in this matter.
You're a close minded bigot calling fool too bull headed to learn from people.
I own my shortcomings as being prejudice. You're telling me you don't contain an ounce of prejudice?
And again- point out my attempt at being a racist?
Hmmm from your definition- you seem quite the bigot yourself in this thread. You cast the first stone yet you live in a glass house. Nothing any one says from an opposing view will sway you in this matter.
You're a close minded bigot calling fool too bull headed to learn from people.
I own my shortcomings as being prejudice. You're telling me you don't contain an ounce of prejudice?
And again- point out my attempt at being a racist?
Courtney.cj.chen
Courtney
Deanimator and other said it best- for both parties and sides involved- there's an agenda now far greater than the truth. Coins the saying - three sides to every story.
My current three cents: 8 shoots to the back is overkill. No matter how u put it. There has to be ramifications for gunning someone down like that.
But to blame just the company instead of the man that worked for it - is like saying - that you expected every cop, if implanted into that scenario- to react the exact same way- like a robot- inputted with a killing algorithm.
What do you think should happen to the cop if deemed a bad shooting? I wouldn't be very convinced- at this moment- if IA or whomever did actually deem it a good shooting. The cop lost it! We don't know what happened to cause him to fire the first shot. But after that? He could've said- stay down. No witnesses recant any of that. Instead he fires 7 more times? Does anyone else think that's overkill?
My current three cents: 8 shoots to the back is overkill. No matter how u put it. There has to be ramifications for gunning someone down like that.
But to blame just the company instead of the man that worked for it - is like saying - that you expected every cop, if implanted into that scenario- to react the exact same way- like a robot- inputted with a killing algorithm.
What do you think should happen to the cop if deemed a bad shooting? I wouldn't be very convinced- at this moment- if IA or whomever did actually deem it a good shooting. The cop lost it! We don't know what happened to cause him to fire the first shot. But after that? He could've said- stay down. No witnesses recant any of that. Instead he fires 7 more times? Does anyone else think that's overkill?
Courtney.cj.chen
Courtney
Just like the divide in public opinion on here- there was a divide in the newscasters who worked on the same station. Scattered in different parts of the town when the protest was going on- one seemed to favor the cops- and used words like "the police have been out here- to help encourage people to go home" (nice play on words Julian!). While other newscasters were not so nice. One was right in the midst of the tear gas. She was not too happy with that. So what do news reporters do when they're pissed off? They evoke fear. And sure enough she stated how scared of the police she was. (I would be too! But hey- they kept yelling at her to stay inside the car bc they were about to throw out tear gas).
And then there's the likes of my buddy Bill o'reilly and his twin, of opposite political view- Nancy Grace.
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Usually people will love one and really really dislike the other. I've been flicking back and forth between FoxNC and cnn - to see how both tell this story. Of course they tell a not very fair and balanced version. Mind you I'm a FNC and o'reilly and hannity fan. But I've started attempting to catch tidbits about the riots on BBC (linked in above post).
And then there's the likes of my buddy Bill o'reilly and his twin, of opposite political view- Nancy Grace.
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Usually people will love one and really really dislike the other. I've been flicking back and forth between FoxNC and cnn - to see how both tell this story. Of course they tell a not very fair and balanced version. Mind you I'm a FNC and o'reilly and hannity fan. But I've started attempting to catch tidbits about the riots on BBC (linked in above post).
Nightmare45
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When a peaceful protest turns to robbing, looting your neighborhood, your point is lost. You are a thief and terrorist and should be dealt with as such. Peace, Love, Colt 45.
BluesStringer
Les Brers
Just to be clear as to whether or not this relates to any topic previously being discussed here, do you consider the witnesses who have come forward to be among those "community organizers?"
Not in direct reply to Deanimator now, I'd like to remind anyone skeptical of the witness' credibility, veracity and/or motives for coming forward, that on the off-chance that a trial of the killer of Michael Brown ensues out of all this, those two (or is it three now?) witnesses will have all those traits tested heavily under examination from the cop's defense attorneys. Likewise, they will have to state their testimony under cross examination in any civil suit that ensues. In a criminal trial though, that would mean that even cops and prosecutors couldn't escape the evidence that there's likely a murderer in their midst, and you better damn well hope these folks' reputations haven't been so harmed by Monday morning quarterbacks and mindless "prejudice" that they won't be taken seriously by a jury from their own community in that instance. And when I say "their own community," I'm not referring to "the black community" or the "cop community" or anything having to do with race or vocation. I'm referring to a jury of their peers, period.
Blues
XD40scinNC
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It is the online version of stunned silence. Sometime we witness such ignorance that there is nothing to say.
Firefighterchen
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Do you really not know the racial ramifications of the word chink?
There is much to learn from others...but if I were to learn from someone so filled with hate, I'd be poisoning myself, and I'd rather not do that.
Blaming the officer only is not how this world works. The officer represents the department. His actions reflect the actions, or inaction to dismiss the officer, of the department. When this cops history gets torn apart, this will not be a singular incident. There is not a single company, except maybe our government, that can get away from legal fault, when their employee abuses and murders another person while on the job.
7 rounds is not always overkill. But 1 round to the head, execution style, is overkill. 7 rounds later is psychotic.
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Courtney.cj.chen
Courtney
1) laughable. did I call you a chink? Reread that paragraph. I told you that I found the term bigot as offensive as IF I were to call you an ignorant chink. You on the other hand - in your first response said the term chink was not offensive at all. So I thought- ok? He missed the point. But I guess you didn't get the attention you wanted. And now you're accusing me, a Chinese immigrant from shanghai, china- with the same last name as you- of being racist against you, by supposedly calling you a Chinese slur? I was making the analogy so that you did not confuse my "proudly proclaimed prejudice" as me welcoming someone calling me a bigot. You're so eager to argue- bc you're the one filled with hate- and will not read my words.
2) I would not be so forward to think you would even be humble enough to learn from me. We very well know I meant- you learning from the REST of the posters- to which I said- you're not here to learn. You're here to "teach" your parrot calls.
I stated "to blame JUST the company instead of the man"- was regarding people such as yourself- who have hardly spoken of the cop as an individual- without grouping him into a company of like minded killing individuals that you seem to know as cops.
Do you know what justifies blaming an entire company for. I can't think of many examples that can hold a whole company/industry responsible- but I can get close- and it involved heavy ramifications.
I work in an investment firm. What I do- the company is liable for. And As everyone can recall- When the mortgage asset backed securities hit it's bubble in 2007-08 and it was found out that badly rated loans were underwritten as junk to be given to traders to sell. THAT was the example of an industry wide bad call- THAT is one of the better examples of blaming an entire company. I was living in nyc at the time - and it was awful- (besides CEOs getting fired.) Big companies tanked. My friends at Lehman and Bear lost their jobs. There were a lot of innocent casualties caught in the crossfire. People who were approved of these mortgages lost their homes. Investors who invested not knowing what backed their securities lost retirements. That's what industry wide- "justice" looks like after people have been made accountable (and not accountable enough given the golden parachutes).
2) I would not be so forward to think you would even be humble enough to learn from me. We very well know I meant- you learning from the REST of the posters- to which I said- you're not here to learn. You're here to "teach" your parrot calls.
I stated "to blame JUST the company instead of the man"- was regarding people such as yourself- who have hardly spoken of the cop as an individual- without grouping him into a company of like minded killing individuals that you seem to know as cops.
Do you know what justifies blaming an entire company for. I can't think of many examples that can hold a whole company/industry responsible- but I can get close- and it involved heavy ramifications.
I work in an investment firm. What I do- the company is liable for. And As everyone can recall- When the mortgage asset backed securities hit it's bubble in 2007-08 and it was found out that badly rated loans were underwritten as junk to be given to traders to sell. THAT was the example of an industry wide bad call- THAT is one of the better examples of blaming an entire company. I was living in nyc at the time - and it was awful- (besides CEOs getting fired.) Big companies tanked. My friends at Lehman and Bear lost their jobs. There were a lot of innocent casualties caught in the crossfire. People who were approved of these mortgages lost their homes. Investors who invested not knowing what backed their securities lost retirements. That's what industry wide- "justice" looks like after people have been made accountable (and not accountable enough given the golden parachutes).
BluesStringer
Les Brers
Looters stealing camera equipment in Ferguson:
Cops literally stealing journalists' equipment after first forcing them out of the area without a chance to pack up their gear. No receipts, no information given as to where and under what process they might retrieve their property (including the work-product contained inside).
The same biased press who helped get Obama elected twice are now targets of the same police state that Obama and Holder have spent the last six years militarizing, and now claim to be "objectively" investigating for civil rights violations against Michael Brown (and possibly more due to the cops' attacks on several peaceful protests in the four nights since the shooting). The incestuous irony is rich here.
Blues
Cops literally stealing journalists' equipment after first forcing them out of the area without a chance to pack up their gear. No receipts, no information given as to where and under what process they might retrieve their property (including the work-product contained inside).
The same biased press who helped get Obama elected twice are now targets of the same police state that Obama and Holder have spent the last six years militarizing, and now claim to be "objectively" investigating for civil rights violations against Michael Brown (and possibly more due to the cops' attacks on several peaceful protests in the four nights since the shooting). The incestuous irony is rich here.
Blues
Courtney.cj.chen
Courtney
Don't forget to tune in to Hannity tonight- but expect the conservative spin -
Hannity's main guests: ferguson police chief, NAACP president, and Brown family's attorney.
Hannity's main guests: ferguson police chief, NAACP president, and Brown family's attorney.
BluesStringer
Les Brers
Hannity gives the establishment spin, not the conservative spin. You have to go outside the mainstream to find real conservatism. Fox is simply the controlled opposition.
Courtney.cj.chen
Courtney
I'm ready for county police to get taken off of handling this- too much interest in this- time for non- interested parties to step in-
but some suggestions: State troopers? Who would you prefer- state troopers or feds?
On another hand- black panther party leaders are in st. louis- I wouldn't want to be anywhere near north county these days.
but some suggestions: State troopers? Who would you prefer- state troopers or feds?
On another hand- black panther party leaders are in st. louis- I wouldn't want to be anywhere near north county these days.
Courtney.cj.chen
Courtney
LIVE VIDEO: Gov. Nixon to speaks at UMSL about Ferguson crisis | FOX2now.com
3:11PM Jay Nixon- Govt of Mo- News conference
Under supervision of Capt. Ron Johnson, who grew up in the area- will head the Missouri Highway Patrol, in taking over the security responsibilities- from STL County. Investigation of shooting remains with STL county.
Some things that Capt. Johnson says he will do differently: try to keep w. Florrisant open today, and empathized that he will be walking around the problem areas- "my boots will be on this ground" and be more involved. - And going around the community to ask people how they have been impacted.
Again... too much conflict of interest in having this party investigate itself - I hope that a third party takes over the investigation. It might be our best chance at getting the lesser jaded version of "a truth."
3:11PM Jay Nixon- Govt of Mo- News conference
Under supervision of Capt. Ron Johnson, who grew up in the area- will head the Missouri Highway Patrol, in taking over the security responsibilities- from STL County. Investigation of shooting remains with STL county.
Some things that Capt. Johnson says he will do differently: try to keep w. Florrisant open today, and empathized that he will be walking around the problem areas- "my boots will be on this ground" and be more involved. - And going around the community to ask people how they have been impacted.
Again... too much conflict of interest in having this party investigate itself - I hope that a third party takes over the investigation. It might be our best chance at getting the lesser jaded version of "a truth."
whodat2710
New member
Doesn't change my mind at all. If you re-read my post, I do not justify the shooting. Hands in the air or not. My post and my opinion are solely related to the events leading up to the shooting, and that I do not believe that a confrontation was unprovoked. Where that confrontation went is what got out of hand, but I absolutely do not believe that some innocent choirboys were walking back from church when brutally assaulted by vengeful cops out to kill a black boy that day. I also do not believe ANYTHING but peaceful protest (such as on the courthouse or police department steps) is justified.
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Opportunistic thugs have taken over Ferguson, and blown any chance for good changes to come from this, and that is just what the NAACP, NBPP, Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson and all the rest of the race baiters want. "Peaceful protesters" are not the ones lobbing Molotov cocktails at the cops, firing on police helicopters or looting and pillaging from their fellow citizens of the community; but these thugs drown out the voice of the peaceful protesters.
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Here's the wonderful NBPP spokesman showing his compassion and quest for justice.
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Here is someone who gets it:
whodat2710
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I will also take every statement by the cops with the same grain of salt. For those asking why there are only 3 black cops in Ferguson, ask yourself, why aren't there more? Do you think it is because the police won't hire them or because they aren't applying for the job.
whodat2710
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This is the man who should have been (and may yet be) our first black president.
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