Hi Point Firearms

What if this happens, and you're dead? I suppose your survivors can send it back...................if it wasn't removed from your cold dead hand by the perp.

I can say that about ANY malfunctioning firearm, regardless of the manufacturer. I have seen glocks, S&W, Berettas, etc. that failed catastrophically. I have seen glocks with slam fire issues. take your pick, no firearms manufacturer is completely immune from failure to function.
 
I have seen way too many problems to even buy one. My firearms all fit into a duty role for me (for now anyway), so I don't buy stuff I don't trust with my life

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In my experience with them, and talking to others WHO ACTUALLY OWN AND USE THEM, they have been extremely reliable, but I and others have had MANY issues with $1000 firearms that are just JUNK.........

I also think gun snobs are douches............
 
In my experience with them, and talking to others WHO ACTUALLY OWN AND USE THEM, they have been extremely reliable, but I and others have had MANY issues with $1000 firearms that are just JUNK.........

I also think gun snobs are douches............

Bwahahaha!
 
In my experience with them, and talking to others WHO ACTUALLY OWN AND USE THEM, they have been extremely reliable, but I and others have had MANY issues with $1000 firearms that are just JUNK.........

I also think gun snobs are douches............

Cool, I just choose not to buy one. Oh and I'm hardly a gun snob.

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Thanks to all for the info, sounds like they are a bit big and bulky for carry. I may look towards a Ruger P95 or something similar.
 
Gun snobs get my goat also, they see I have a Cobra ( which is accurate and reliable) and think jam o matic. If it jams for them they are limp wristing. When I get some money I'll buy something made in USA that holds 7-10 rounds but I'll always keep my Cobra
 
I have a .45 hi point...it has gone bang from day one ..took my CCW with it right out of the box with no issues. Some of the hi points have mag issues and tweaking the mag lips usually solve this problem and also life time warranty. Call hi point and send gun in no questions asked, they have one of the best services out there. They are heavy and ugly but hey they go bang, i carry mine in my truck and bring it in at night and set it on night stand.
 
Thanks to all for the info, sounds like they are a bit big and bulky for carry. I may look towards a Ruger P95 or something similar.

The P95 is a great pistol but, it isn't much smaller than any Hi-Point 9mm and it isn't any lighter... at least not enough for me to really notice. It is however, in general, a better pistol than a Hi-Point. I'm a big fan of the P89, all except the mag release... it sucks.
 
Every one has a friend who has one?

I have one and love it. It is on the heavy side, but that never been a problem for me.

As for the jamming problem, I have fired over a thousand rounds and have never had a jam. The only thing I did when I bought the gun is to polish the feed ramp. Hi-point powder coats the ramp and this is what causes the jamming.
 
Had 2 both 380s. First had near target accuracy but would jam with every shot. Every time the trigger was squeezed. Number two ran smooth as expected but couldn't hit a 8 foot square target backer at 7 yards. Hold on the center and one round goes high and the next hit the dirt. Both were sent to the factory 3 times and they were not ever fixed.
 
I have a .380, 2 9mm, 1 .40 and 1 .45. I also have the 9mm carbine. All told I have let loose over 1000 rounds between them all. I had to send 1 of the 9's back because of a jamming issue (5 out of 15 rounds jammed). That is the only issue I have had with any of them. The factory fixed the problem sent it back with 2 more mags the I sent with it. As you have read, they are not really made for CC, but for a home, car gun you can't beat them. Ugly and heavy but I think they are a good inexpensive entry level weapon. I have all of the guns loaded and hidden throughout the house in case of emergency and thank God none has, but I know that when I squeeze the trigger, it will go bang and I will hit what I am aiming at. Here is an interesting side note, during the ammo shortage I happened to get a box of 50 rounds of steel 9mm. My higher dollar 9's would jam (failure to eject "stovepipe")with every round. The High Points just ate them up as fast as I fired without a single issue. Get one and try for yourself. There is nothing better than trying for yourself. Good Luck and have fun.
 
I would go with a SCCY 9mm to carry, not as heavy and bulky as Hi Point and it is a good bargain price-wise.

Just to make sure anyone inclined to take advice from this poster knows who and what he is:

cluznar said:
...Another good way to help gun control....

...As for gun bans, without a doubt assault rifles must be banned, citizens have no need for assault rifles in an educated society.
 
If I'm a bad guy, and I have a knife, and I try to rob someone and they pull a hi-point on me? I'm not going to say "Ha, got anything else?"

I'd own one to shoot. Wouldn't carry one. My grandpa has one in .45 and it's been very reliable and accurate. The reason I wouldn't carry one is;

1) Inconsistency. As you've seen in this thread, some people have great results, others not so much. Hi-Point is also probably not a good 'beginners gun' because it seems to be pretty limp-wrist sensitive. I'm concerned that I might not get one as reliable as my grandpas.

2) Weight and size - Big and heavy doesn't make a great all day carry gun.

3) Smaller capacity - These were designed during the assault weapons ban. So there isn't one with more than a 10 round magazine (or 10 bullet magazine clip if you prefer the politician term. :P). I can carry a gun for not a lot more money that is the same size; but weighs less and carries more ammunition.

4) Difficulty to clean and field strip. A carry weapon should be cleaned and lubed often. I clean and lube mine weekly, or after shooting; whichever comes first. I know myself enough to know I wouldn't have the time, motivation or energy to clean a hi point that often.

So here's what I went with;

Bersa. They have a striker fired 9mm, and a hammer fired DA/SA .380, 9mm, 40 and 45. They have various sizes (service size and compact, single stack and double stack). All under $500, some WELL under $500, and go used cheap. I just picked up a Bersa that is a little smaller and lighter than a hi-point, DA/SA, holds 13 rounds in the magazine (9mm) and was $400. Bersa's are ridiculously reliable, will shoot any ammo you feed them and are super accurate. There's not many guns on the planet as easy to field strip either. On the 9, 40, and 45 you just flip a lever and the slide slides off. No trigger pull, lining up, pushing or pulling. Even the .380 is easy to strip, just pop the lever and pull all the way back, lift, and push forward. All super easy to clean. My wifes little Bersa .380 has shot 250 rounds without being cleaned (in one session!) without a single failure. Using, literally, the very cheapest ammunition I could find (CCI Blazer aluminum). And she, a new shooter, can shoot TIGHT groups at 15 yards with a gun she can easily conceal. I loved hers so much I ordered a Bersa 9mm for my own carry gun. Bigger than the .380 (Glock 19 sized), but the same overall featureset and technology; not to mention reliability.

Bersa is an underrated and well kept secret in the firearms industry, in my humble opinion. These are mil-spec weapons sold to and used by the Argentine military and police forces all over south America and is one of the largest private companies IN South America. Yet so many folks tend to skim right by them! It's an inexpensive and exceptionally well built firearm. They don't make a bad one. (Oh, and the 9, 40, and 45 all fit the same holster and feel the same in your hand, which is pretty cool!)
 
Well said Romans5.8 people need to look at Bersa guns for something dependable, accurate, and priced well. My Bersa Thunder .32 acp has 300 flawless rounds right from the box. My Bersa .380 has about 400 flawless rounds now. They are a good line of guns. How can people overlook Bersa and buy Hi Points? Save up a few more bucks and get something reliable and not bulky and heavy.
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Well said Romans5.8 people need to look at Bersa guns for something dependable, accurate, and priced well. My Bersa Thunder .32 acp has 300 flawless rounds right from the box. My Bersa .380 has about 400 flawless rounds now. They are a good line of guns. How can people overlook Bersa and buy Hi Points? Save up a few more bucks and get something reliable and not bulky and heavy.
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Says the gun grabber......

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If I'm a bad guy, and I have a knife, and I try to rob someone and they pull a hi-point on me? I'm not going to say "Ha, got anything else?"

I'd own one to shoot. Wouldn't carry one. My grandpa has one in .45 and it's been very reliable and accurate. The reason I wouldn't carry one is;

1) Inconsistency. As you've seen in this thread, some people have great results, others not so much. Hi-Point is also probably not a good 'beginners gun' because it seems to be pretty limp-wrist sensitive. I'm concerned that I might not get one as reliable as my grandpas.

2) Weight and size - Big and heavy doesn't make a great all day carry gun.

3) Smaller capacity - These were designed during the assault weapons ban. So there isn't one with more than a 10 round magazine (or 10 bullet magazine clip if you prefer the politician term. :P). I can carry a gun for not a lot more money that is the same size; but weighs less and carries more ammunition.

4) Difficulty to clean and field strip. A carry weapon should be cleaned and lubed often. I clean and lube mine weekly, or after shooting; whichever comes first. I know myself enough to know I wouldn't have the time, motivation or energy to clean a hi point that often.

So here's what I went with;

Bersa. They have a striker fired 9mm, and a hammer fired DA/SA .380, 9mm, 40 and 45. They have various sizes (service size and compact, single stack and double stack). All under $500, some WELL under $500, and go used cheap. I just picked up a Bersa that is a little smaller and lighter than a hi-point, DA/SA, holds 13 rounds in the magazine (9mm) and was $400. Bersa's are ridiculously reliable, will shoot any ammo you feed them and are super accurate. There's not many guns on the planet as easy to field strip either. On the 9, 40, and 45 you just flip a lever and the slide slides off. No trigger pull, lining up, pushing or pulling. Even the .380 is easy to strip, just pop the lever and pull all the way back, lift, and push forward. All super easy to clean. My wifes little Bersa .380 has shot 250 rounds without being cleaned (in one session!) without a single failure. Using, literally, the very cheapest ammunition I could find (CCI Blazer aluminum). And she, a new shooter, can shoot TIGHT groups at 15 yards with a gun she can easily conceal. I loved hers so much I ordered a Bersa 9mm for my own carry gun. Bigger than the .380 (Glock 19 sized), but the same overall featureset and technology; not to mention reliability.

Bersa is an underrated and well kept secret in the firearms industry, in my humble opinion. These are mil-spec weapons sold to and used by the Argentine military and police forces all over south America and is one of the largest private companies IN South America. Yet so many folks tend to skim right by them! It's an inexpensive and exceptionally well built firearm. They don't make a bad one. (Oh, and the 9, 40, and 45 all fit the same holster and feel the same in your hand, which is pretty cool!)


I don't think "overlooking" them has as much to do with it as on-hand availability. Many gun stores simply do not have them in stock with any regularity. The store for which I work (a national chain) carries them, they tend to sell very quickly, but we also get them VERY infrequently. I can literally count on one hand the number of Bersas we have had in-stock in the last year. The other consideration is that we have only seen .380s (they also manufacture 9mm/.40 S&W firearms) come through, and that caliber round is incredibly difficult to find.
 

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