Do Christians Smoke Weed?

[whodat2710]

My main point is that because something is legal or illegal is a government decision, something that is moral or immoral is a personal matter. Neither can be definitively attached to something that is acceptable in the eyes of God. The simple fact that different Christian religions have differing views on alcohol blows that idea out of the water.
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Here's an idea: if it is legal, but doing it makes you look over your shoulder because you are afraid of someone seeing what you're up to, don't do it.

 

[Johnny Dollar]

An alcoholic has to take the first drink

(emphasis added)

No, No I don't

 

[mwhals]

A Christian will feel like it is wrong, because of the Holy Ghost helping us. The doubt we have about something being right, is a signal that it isn't. As a result, if you are truly saved by Jesus Christ, there should not be a question. We will know if it is wrong for us. We are not to judge others, so what they do is between them and God.


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[GlassWolf]

“Alcoholism is a disease, but it's the only one you can get yelled at for having. Goddamn it Otto, you are an alcoholic. Goddamn it Otto, you have Lupus... one of those two doesn't sound right.”

- Mitch Hedberg

Type II diabetes. That's often blamed on fat people overeating. Just sayin'

 

[GlassWolf]

My main point is that because something is legal or illegal is a government decision, something that is moral or immoral is a personal matter. Neither can be definitively attached to something that is acceptable in the eyes of God. The simple fact that different Christian religions have differing views on alcohol blows that idea out of the water.
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Here's an idea: if it is legal, but doing it makes you look over your shoulder because you are afraid of someone seeing what you're up to, don't do it.

You can't legislate morality, but you can legislate against it.

 

[Johnny Dollar]

You can't legislate morality,

We legislate morality everytime we send a murderer to jail

 

[jhodge83]

Type II diabetes. That's often blamed on fat people overeating. Just sayin'

"Obesity is thought to be the primary cause of type 2 diabetes in people who are genetically predisposed to the disease."

 

[Ringo]

People can't lose weight by talking about it, they have to keep your mouth shut.

 

[Ringo]

No, a disease that makes you go to the store/bar/whatever and imbibe a substance that you *know* is going to turn you into a flaming jackwad even though you know that is what will happen.

Drinking alcohol is like putting a thief in your mouth to steal your brain. It's an addiction and a choice.

 

[BC1]

People can't lose weight by talking about it, they have to keep your mouth shut.

Yeah but look at some people who are fat. Oprah. Rosie O'Donnel. They have enough money to pay some full-time to follow them around and slap food out of their hands. Yet they eat and are fat. Food is also an addiction. Overeating caused by psycho-social or stress-related factors.

 

[Ringo]

Overeating caused by psycho-social or stress-related factors.

Or the fact that they simply like to over indulge. After all is said and done it comes down to Choices & Consequences, that's what life is about.

 

[dad45acp]

Or the fact that they simply like to over indulge. After all is said and done it comes down to Choices & Consequences, that's what life is about.

Its rarely that simple. Chronic over indulgence becomes a psychological disorder and development of disease processes.

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[gunnerbob]

Yeah but look at some people who are fat. Oprah. Rosie O'Donnel. They have enough money to pay some full-time to follow them around and slap food out of their hands. Yet they eat and are fat. Food is also an addiction. Overeating caused by psycho-social or stress-related factors.

F'ing hilarious visual! Bwahahaha!

 

[whodat2710]

You can't legislate morality, but you can legislate against it.

Wrong. You cannot SUCCESSFULLY legislate morality, but they attempt to do it every day.
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Prohibition is a prime example, making weed illegal is another.
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Placing large taxes on beer and smokes is another round-about way to "help" us do the right thing ("sin" taxes).
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Tax breaks for charitable donations - think about that.

 

[GlassWolf]

We legislate morality everytime we send a murderer to jail

Wrong. You cannot SUCCESSFULLY legislate morality, but they attempt to do it every day.
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Prohibition is a prime example, making weed illegal is another.
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Placing large taxes on beer and smokes is another round-about way to "help" us do the right thing ("sin" taxes).
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Tax breaks for charitable donations - think about that.

Same thing. Like I said, you can pass all the legislature you like, but none of it will force someone to be moral. This is exactly why gun control laws don't work, too. Criminals don't regard consequences because they do not expect to get caught. Now you're just being pedantic by splitting grammatic hairs.

"Obesity is thought to be the primary cause of type 2 diabetes in people who are genetically predisposed to the disease."

Type I is genetically predisposed, requiring a viral trigger to activate the disease. Type two pretty much just overloads the pancreas and causes it to fail, much like gestational diabetes caused by pregnancy. This is also why type IIs can be "pre-diabetic" and can have the disease go into complete reversal/remission when they lose weight/give birth.

Type I diabetics don't have that luxury. I've always felt that Type I diabetics are stuck with a disease through no action of their own, while type II pretty much do it to themselves. You know, like some of you view alcoholism.

 

[wolf_fire]

First, there's the issue of respect for local authority. The Bible instructs us to obey the law. If we believe the law to be wrong, we need to find lawful ways in which to change it.

Secondly, what is the benefit of smoking weed? Food in moderation is healthy, alcohol can be either medicinal or just a tasty compliment to a meal, but what good is cannabis other than as a medication?


Sent while walking the narrow road.

The Bible does not instruct to obey every law on the books. It instructs to obey the true Law, the Law of God. In fact there is much evidence of civil disobedience that is in the name of God.

 

[wolf_fire]

An alcoholic has to take the first drink and then follow it with the second and forward. It is their responsibility that they are an alcoholic. After they get to that point, they are at the point of no return without help. The end point occurs because the person wasn't responsible.

I have had an alcoholic drink at dinner and easily stopped after one. I am responsible by making the decision to drink one. Currently, I don't drink anything alcoholic and don't plan to, especially after I get my CCW permit.


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Actually, alcoholism or addiction is just a symptom of a greater problem within that person's life. Get to the root of that problem and the symptoms go away. Most commonly, but altogether not the only reason, is the person has an obsessive/compulsive disorder which is a treatable condition. You give a drink to an obsessive/compulsive, by nature of their condition, they crave more (it's not about will power). Now, that person has become an alcoholic. The reason why alcoholism gets a bad rap, is because there are many more people who can and do drink who don't have this condition, so they don't get why the "other" person can't "handle their alcohol".

As Christians, we should be more aware of the pitfalls of one person's sins and be more understanding. Is the alcoholic responsible? Yes. Is the alcoholic fighting a harder battle than most with drinking? Yes. As humans do we all have our "sins" that we can't seem to keep under control? Yes. Should we be constantly seeking repentance to ask forgiveness and to change our lives? Yes. Why? Because we all are sinners and can't stop it ourselves. Hence, our need for an intercessor, Jesus Christ.

 

[SR9]

I don't remember ever seeing anything in the Bible ablout people smoking pot or any other substance, myself. But, that doesn't mean they didn't. There is alot about drinking wine in the Bible, but the things I find says only unfermented wine was allowed of Christians. That would mean that the wine they drank was more like grape juice. In fact as much wine as they drank daily, I don't think they would have time for it to ferment. Hard to grow grapes in a desert, anyhow.

 

[Johnny Dollar]

I don't remember ever seeing anything in the Bible ablout people smoking pot or any other substance, myself. But, that doesn't mean they didn't. There is alot about drinking wine in the Bible, but the things I find says only unfermented wine was allowed of Christians. That would mean that the wine they drank was more like grape juice. In fact as much wine as they drank daily, I don't think they would have time for it to ferment. Hard to grow grapes in a desert, anyhow.

Israel is actually very fertile

 

[gunnerbob]

This thread is soooooo, err... wierd. It goes from Christian pot smokers to alcholics to diabetics to Israel.

Pure entertainment...