Well for what it's worth we shook hands and I told him "good job".
Open carry confrontations
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Well for what it's worth we shook hands and I told him "good job".
tricolordad
Banned
How so? I don't generally agree with almost anything that shaudenfreude says, but he is 100% right with his post.
CCers are generally looking for a reason to bash us OCers. They come into the OC threads looking for confrontation. You wont be finding many examples, if any, of OCers coming into CC threads and bashing your preferred method.
SouthernBoy
New member
This is the same as it is here in Virginia.
So you consider the sight of a firearm "justifiable panic"? Do you panic and run around flapping your arms like a chicken if you see some one come out of a liquor store with a bag of booze and get behind the wheel of their car? You do realize that the odds of you being killed by a drunk are higher than by a firearm.
As to the remainder of your post, it is unsubstanciated non sense. The CC gibberish about tacticool advantage is an opinion, and you know what they say about opinions.
vernsimpson
New member
I agree with you Treo. I am not against OC and if that is the choice of anyone then more power to them. I am not against OC. It is just not my choice.
Rocketgeezer
New member
Anyone who has a confrontation while carrying, open or concealed is in most cases because they choose to, for whatever reason
tricolordad
Banned
And they call us "crazy" and "scary." I bet they go home and make stuff up like "i saw this guy with a gun today (it was a walther P99 properly secured in a holster) and he started messing with me (he said "how can i help you?") so I told him either pull it or get lost (i told him he doesn't need a gun because I don't like them) and he ran away! (He finished putting his groceries in his car and left.)". I put the grain of truth those stories could be based on in parentheses.
Some heroes they are. You know how they say "imagination is a good thing"...only sometimes.
I open carry around my own property everyday, (just because that's the only open carry that's legal, thus far in Texas, and it's getting to be too warm to cover it up). I was working in my shop and a couple of my Granddaughters came by... one of them hadn't been around for over a year... and she saw me with the gun on my hip and was shocked by it. With a wide-eyed look, she asked, "Papa! What are you doing with a gun, Papa?"
"Well, Grandbaby, the US Constitution guarantees my right to carry a firearm, and I refuse to allow Grandma or me to become a victim."
Then I reminded her of how older folks like us are sometimes targeted by young punks who want what we might have in our pockets... and a few other things... I even told her I wish she'd carry a gun.
When she left she was feeling much better about me being armed.
"Well, Grandbaby, the US Constitution guarantees my right to carry a firearm, and I refuse to allow Grandma or me to become a victim."
Then I reminded her of how older folks like us are sometimes targeted by young punks who want what we might have in our pockets... and a few other things... I even told her I wish she'd carry a gun.
When she left she was feeling much better about me being armed.
i use the shirt tail solution; if i see a group of street urchins hanging around, and i absolutely have to go near them,
my shirt tail accidently rides up over my weapon. then when they decide to go home and smoke some dope, and i
get inside the establishment, i usualy discover my exposed weapon just in time to cover it up so as not to alarm anyone.
accidental exposure has its merits.
my shirt tail accidently rides up over my weapon. then when they decide to go home and smoke some dope, and i
get inside the establishment, i usualy discover my exposed weapon just in time to cover it up so as not to alarm anyone.
accidental exposure has its merits.
gejoslin
Illegitimi non carborundu
If they're up to no good and they see your sidearm chances are pretty slim to none they'll run tell a cop. If I see two guys walking through a parking lot coming at me, and they're giving me the eye. I have no problem putting my hand on my pistol. If they split up and try to come at me form front and back, I'd pull it out and keep it low and behind me. If they're BGs I don't think they want to tell a cop. They're damn sure won't file a complaint!
This was advice from a retired cop. Sounds pretty good to me.
Of course if they're not BG's this could cause you some problems so be careful who you do this to.
I wish we could get by with that in Texas... all they have to do here is call the cops and tell them they saw a man with a gun. Then you'll get hassled by LE. It is against the law to not keep your weapon concealed... complete without printing. That being said, I've displayed mine the same way you wrote about, but just lucky enough that the guy seeing it didn't call the law... and I didn't either, because I didn't have the time to mess with the situation. You are right... "accidental" exposure has it's merits... just wish it wasn't against the law here.
gejoslin
Illegitimi non carborundu
No open carry here, yet. We keep trying. :blink:
You know part of the reason the Oklahoma Legislature amended our carry law to allow open carry was beacuse individules who were legal to carry were getting tickets or generally being hasseled by LEOs in SOME municipalities if some one did accidently catch a glimpse of their firearm. I believe open carry should be legal, but also don't why most who actualy do open carry are doing it. The general attitude among those on this forum and amoung those I have talked to seems to be I do it "because I can". I can too, I just can't think of a situation out in the civilian world where I believe I put myself in a better position to protect myself or my family or friends with a openly displayed firearm vs a concealed one.
Rocketgeezer
New member
Same here, the permit says handgun carry, it totaly our choice as to where
Why would a criminal attack one of the .5% of the population that they can see has a gun and the ability to kill them, when they have the remainder of the 99.5% of the population who doesn't appear to be armed to choose from? I would rather protect myself and my family by simply encouraging the criminal to move on, leave us alone, and go pick a not visibly armed, apparently much easier target and never have to deal with the criminal at all. I do open carry because I can, and because the deterrent value of a visible firearm is much greater than that of a concealed firearm. I have the element of surprise in my favor, if the criminal is evaluating me as a target, they will be surprised to see my gun at a point where they can just ignore me and move on to an easier target. The element of surprise with a concealed firearm is nothing more than hoping that after the criminal has already attacked you and already is watching you, that you can draw your gun and potentially fire fast enough to beat the criminal's reaction who already has the upper hand in the encounter. To me, the concealed "element of surpise" is not an advantage....it is a last resort.
Gr8gunz
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There is a great post somewhere which I can't find anymore that talks extensively about the advantages of open carry. It contains research and a clear thought process unclouded by emotion and "DRAMA". It puts to rest most of the antiOC rhetoric and high horse lecturing about businesses losing money, scared folks running for cover, defending your right to OC too loudly and my favorite BS reason of all..."YOU WILL BE THE BGs FIRST TARGET". How I wish I could find the post and repost it here. I'm really disappointed with Texas. I thought they had some legislation in the works to legalize OC. Did that go away?
