Ain't gonna happen Local! One side wants to hang it out there for everyone to see and one side wants to make sure it's tucked in their pants. You know whats wrong with that "My dogs better than you dog" argument? They don't realize they both got dogs! :crazy_pilot:
Open carry confrontations
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Ain't gonna happen Local! One side wants to hang it out there for everyone to see and one side wants to make sure it's tucked in their pants. You know whats wrong with that "My dogs better than you dog" argument? They don't realize they both got dogs! :crazy_pilot:
YOu were doing real well with this right up to the point you managed to denigrate all OCers with your final statement. Good job. :sarcastic:
Wow.... a voice of reason. Very nice.
gejoslin
Illegitimi non carborundu
Open carry or concealed carry? I would like to do both. But in Arkansas we can only carry concealed. I would prefer to do both. My EAA 10 mm on my hip and a back up in my pocket. Best of both worlds IMHO. And I would prefer to not pay the State for a Right to Carry as I wish!
I don't HAVE to have a permit for free speech.
I don't HAVE to have a permit for unwarranted search and seizure. Or all the other RIGHTS we enjoy.
Just ain't right!!
I don't HAVE to have a permit for free speech.
I don't HAVE to have a permit for unwarranted search and seizure. Or all the other RIGHTS we enjoy.
Just ain't right!!
I think you misunderstand. With the exception of the idiotic trolls that serve no useful purpose in life, we ARE all on the same side here. We ALL consider our RTKBA to be a sacred right. We all consider any rule or regulation that has an impact on our ability to KBA is an infringement on our 2A rights. The discussion we have in here is merly about the semantics of how we go about exercising our RTKBA.
Just understand that there are differing opinions as to what each of us think is the correct way of doing something and the others will do their best to convince everyone else that their way is the right way. So we have these discussions.
We're all on the same team, we're just have an intense discussion about the uniform for the game.
I disagree. There are members on here who make posts that sound exactly like they cut and pasted off of an anti-gun group website. For example, this post here:
http://www.usacarry.com/forums/military-veterans/31439-ccw-military-members-base.html#post387202
"blood will run in the streets" and "suicide prevention" statements that one would expect to see come straight from the anti-gun crowd.
Navy, those are the members that I would classify in the "idiotic troll" category. But you are right, there are some that come here for no other reason than to cause distension among the ranks. But we can have fun with them with a slap down fest, can't we?
Well....sometimes I (and others with my same point of view" have been accused of exactly the same thing, especially when I advocate standing up for 4th amendment rights as much as 2nd amendment rights and actually USING a gun for self defense rather than merely carrying it and hoping for the best.
BlackHillsToday
New member
Respect for a gun!
First let me say, A gun is not at piece of jewelry, a belt to hold up our pants, or a fashion statement. A guns intended purpose (nature) was to kill something or someone, period. Sure we go plinking and target practicing, but that is only to accomplish one intended purpose to become a "sharp shooter" so that we hit our intended target. That target when I carry a gun, is not a bottle, it is not a golfer, it is a person. I have to say, your fear "Scare the Hell out of me", tells me that it is you, not me who should not be carrying a hand gun. It is a gun's nature to gain, the greatest respect from those who are around. I don't carry a gun to gain respect or fear... it is the gun that does that. That is why Loosely liberals, have such a "Fear" of guns, they don't understand the "Respect" a gun deserves. As a US Army Veteran who was trained literally to use this to "Kill" people for purposes still not quite clear to many. However, to stay on point. I'm saying a gun is or should be a peace keeper not a war mechanism. It is only to be used in absolute last resort scenerios, however the one who is carrying it, may have to decide instantaneously to use it for self preservation and the safety of others. The reason we carry a gun is for that purpose only. (period) But, no matter how pretty your gun is "Stainless", polished, studded, pearl handles, it deserves the utmost "Respect", from everyone in the room weither they know it or not. "It is the "Law", in that moment of need." For example, in the theater shooting, if someone would have been packing that night when all those live where lost, someone could have instantly stepped up, and ended the matter. No Judge, No legislation, legislators, police approval necessary! You take out and eliminate the "Target", to bring safety and life to those who lost it. You the one who steps up, then becomes the Highest Law of the land via, your "Gun"... which you couldn't have done without it. So YES! A gun is the "Law" an deserves an extreme amount of respect and with that said, I have a tendency to give the person (who is carrying one) an almost equal amount of respect. If you have a problem with that, yep you better start talking to your "Creator", cause he is always our final Judge not me!
First let me say, A gun is not at piece of jewelry, a belt to hold up our pants, or a fashion statement. A guns intended purpose (nature) was to kill something or someone, period. Sure we go plinking and target practicing, but that is only to accomplish one intended purpose to become a "sharp shooter" so that we hit our intended target. That target when I carry a gun, is not a bottle, it is not a golfer, it is a person. I have to say, your fear "Scare the Hell out of me", tells me that it is you, not me who should not be carrying a hand gun. It is a gun's nature to gain, the greatest respect from those who are around. I don't carry a gun to gain respect or fear... it is the gun that does that. That is why Loosely liberals, have such a "Fear" of guns, they don't understand the "Respect" a gun deserves. As a US Army Veteran who was trained literally to use this to "Kill" people for purposes still not quite clear to many. However, to stay on point. I'm saying a gun is or should be a peace keeper not a war mechanism. It is only to be used in absolute last resort scenerios, however the one who is carrying it, may have to decide instantaneously to use it for self preservation and the safety of others. The reason we carry a gun is for that purpose only. (period) But, no matter how pretty your gun is "Stainless", polished, studded, pearl handles, it deserves the utmost "Respect", from everyone in the room weither they know it or not. "It is the "Law", in that moment of need." For example, in the theater shooting, if someone would have been packing that night when all those live where lost, someone could have instantly stepped up, and ended the matter. No Judge, No legislation, legislators, police approval necessary! You take out and eliminate the "Target", to bring safety and life to those who lost it. You the one who steps up, then becomes the Highest Law of the land via, your "Gun"... which you couldn't have done without it. So YES! A gun is the "Law" an deserves an extreme amount of respect and with that said, I have a tendency to give the person (who is carrying one) an almost equal amount of respect. If you have a problem with that, yep you better start talking to your "Creator", cause he is always our final Judge not me!
HoJo
New member
Hey, golfers are people too.
Honestly guys I think it's time to stop the bickering and get this thread back on topic.
Treo
Bullet Proof
I'm not sure which is more scarry the concept that this post is a load or the concept that it is serious.
Either way it sounds pretty mall ninja to me I'm picturing your gun standing in a 7-11 yelling " I am da Laaaaaaw"
SouthernBoy
New member
Actually I do understand. My point wasn't about this forum. It was about the strong bias we tend to see against OC'ing which comes from folks who are strict CC'ers. I see a lot of this on a number of websites. Personally, I support and applaud both methods of carry and do both myself, though I OC far more than CC. The way I look at it is how you described in this your post. We are all in this together. I would just hope some others would see it this way as well.
Crack me up! I got this picture of Stalone wearing that dumbzz costume rolling around in my head now. Thanks a pant load Treo! :crazy_pilot:
lostinataxi
New member
I don't open carry because I don't want or need the unwanted attention from someone who doesn't understand and calls the police to report a man with a gun. I just want to go about my business quietly. I have a friend who works at a Walmart who told me he was frightened when he saw someone open carrying the other day. He said he ran away (didn't call 911 at least). I told him that if the person wasn't doing anything bad with the weapon, he's most likely allowed to have it, since criminals don't like the attention to themselves and would never let you see the gun unless they were using it to commit a crime. After giving it some thought, it made sense to him. I try to educate people when this sort of subject comes up, but I prefer to conceal myself. It makes life much simpler. Most of my friends don't know I carry a weapon too, unless the subject comes up, I just don't talk about it.
Treo
Bullet Proof
Again not to speak against open carry But I am 100% in agreement with the above.
It's my life and if I wanted you in it I'd invite you
UrbanArmed
New member
Can anyone cite one instance anywhere anytime where there was a crime committed, and a legally open carrying citizen was targeted first and then the criminal continued with their crime? I hear this argument all the time and have yet to see a reference where this has ever happened. I'm not advocating OC all the time, but the reality is there could possibly be many crimes deterred because of someone OC'ing that we will never know about. I've never seen a news broadcast of a robbery where someone was saying, "well, there was a robber, he came in, shot the guy with the gun first, then robbed the joint"
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I actually encountered my first OC person yesterday (it's legal in my State). At the local grocery store no less. I was curious so I simply walked up to him and asked "Excuse me I am just curious: Police or just Open Carry?".
It was OC. We spent a couple of minutes discussing the subject. He stated he had received an occasional odd look, some compliments and one very polite request to put it away (at the mall) so far.
It was OC. We spent a couple of minutes discussing the subject. He stated he had received an occasional odd look, some compliments and one very polite request to put it away (at the mall) so far.
gejoslin
Illegitimi non carborundu
I'll just bet it was "very polite"!
Yes it actually really was, very polite and pleasant.
CharlesMorrison
Banned
I open carry all the time here in Vermont. Friggin boring.. Nobody gives a rats azz about it.
I dont know why OC is so frowned upon. In my state at least you get treated no differently than if you had no gun at all...
I dont know why OC is so frowned upon. In my state at least you get treated no differently than if you had no gun at all...
