What Was Your Rank?
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Shamrock Bail
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I was
In the Army back then MOS was 95B20V5 which is a Military Police E5 w a Military Police Investigator Identifier, i gradusted from MPI school basically, did my initial 5 year MP enlistment and regret ETSing after my wife and i decided I would decline the CID School, MOS change that i just spent 6 months trying to get only to say I risked divorce had i choose to reclass, I regret that i didnt tale that journey, Instead i got out and immediately was a Cop int Hometown, And Divorced to my 1st wife 18 months after telling the SAC in Augsburg whom i basically kidded ass for 6 months I will not take the Reclass and wldnt reenlist, I Missed an oppurtunity and who knows, prolly wldnt have had a Drunk run into me in a Ford Excursion while doing 30mph into my door and 6 years into mt Civilian LE Career, NJ forced me into retiring at 66-2/3rds of 90k us bennies for rest of my life, now i dobbail bonds and I miss the Job everyday !
In the Army back then MOS was 95B20V5 which is a Military Police E5 w a Military Police Investigator Identifier, i gradusted from MPI school basically, did my initial 5 year MP enlistment and regret ETSing after my wife and i decided I would decline the CID School, MOS change that i just spent 6 months trying to get only to say I risked divorce had i choose to reclass, I regret that i didnt tale that journey, Instead i got out and immediately was a Cop int Hometown, And Divorced to my 1st wife 18 months after telling the SAC in Augsburg whom i basically kidded ass for 6 months I will not take the Reclass and wldnt reenlist, I Missed an oppurtunity and who knows, prolly wldnt have had a Drunk run into me in a Ford Excursion while doing 30mph into my door and 6 years into mt Civilian LE Career, NJ forced me into retiring at 66-2/3rds of 90k us bennies for rest of my life, now i dobbail bonds and I miss the Job everyday !
Roseborough23
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Corporal, United States Marine Corps, MOS - 2542 Comm (1994-2000)
Roseborough23
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Interesting! I have never left my rank behind (Cpl, USMC - 94'-00') But the statement is true that your rank doesn't carry over in to Civilian life per se. If i run into a vet of a higher rank, I still give due respect, but am not bowing down to them. You may see it as treating them differently, but in my opinion, they deserve that type of respect. I'd do the same to another Cpl who is no longer AD. I served in the Marine Corps and give due respect regardless of rank...i appreciate your perspective!
Allen Shearer
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I was an E-4 when I got out of the USAF.
phrogmedic
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HMCS (E-8). (AW/FMF/NAC) Enlisted July 1982- Retired July 2002
foxytwo
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:wacko: I was a airman second class after four years in the airforce. Now, due to political correctness, a airman second class is a airman first and a airman first is now a senior airman. We pay the officers good money to come up with this kind of touchy feely crap? There are better things the officers should be doing.
Looksbetterinred
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E-4 when left active duty - USAF EOD
E-6 when left the ANG - Communications annalist Intel
E-6 when left the ANG - Communications annalist Intel
kennethbroz
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Former Military
I retired as a Master Seargeant USMC IN 77. My experience and perception is that Rank can be Confusing. If you are no longer in the military your rank has no real power - You cannot use your rank on another former military person. However, Rank has meaning if on a military base - there are rules and traditons, for example former enlisted cannot go into a officers club etc. I am certain that in certain government facilities (maybe some VA hospitals for example) some deference is paid to rank - such as priority handling etc - however this should not be done and is incorrect..
Your experience may give you certain entitlements such as you must be a veteran of foreign wars to be a member of the VFW. However, also believe not only are all former military but their spouses and some other relatives can become members of the American Legion.
It is important to remember that people have earned rank and had experiences and deserve the respect but it does not entitle them to mandatory deference. I have met low ranking enlisted that were very wealthy and powerful corporate officers like CEO's and on the flip side I met retired Colonels that had a little chicken ranch and wore bib overalls.
One time in my life in Corporate America, I need to hire a program/project Manager for a government contract - a very long term government contract providing equipment and material to the subsurface navy. Had an applicant that was on terminal leave and was a former Navy Captain (surface Navy). I had and offer letter in my hand for a starting salary of $80,000. (1988).
I asked if he had any questions before we concluded our interview and he stated that he noted a small Marine Corps flag set on my desk and asked my rank. I stated that I had retired 11 years ago as a Master Sargeant. Then asked him if that would bother him, working directly for me, as I directly reported to the Corporate Operations Officer? He stated, "that might be a problem". I asked him, If knowing I had gotten my bachelors while in the service a Master from Stanford after I retired and had 10 years of exceptional performance with this corporation and was on the fast track and obviously as his boss and the boss of other Program/Project Managers with budget responsibility close to a Billion annually would that make a difference? Would the fact that I had customers that were Admirals and Generals and I briefed them on their projects frequently and had luches with them. He stated "a bit, but it would still bother me that I was working for a former enlisted." I have no idea where he went to work, etc. To me it was a sad experience.. to think that Some people think rank is so important....
I retired as a Master Seargeant USMC IN 77. My experience and perception is that Rank can be Confusing. If you are no longer in the military your rank has no real power - You cannot use your rank on another former military person. However, Rank has meaning if on a military base - there are rules and traditons, for example former enlisted cannot go into a officers club etc. I am certain that in certain government facilities (maybe some VA hospitals for example) some deference is paid to rank - such as priority handling etc - however this should not be done and is incorrect..
Your experience may give you certain entitlements such as you must be a veteran of foreign wars to be a member of the VFW. However, also believe not only are all former military but their spouses and some other relatives can become members of the American Legion.
It is important to remember that people have earned rank and had experiences and deserve the respect but it does not entitle them to mandatory deference. I have met low ranking enlisted that were very wealthy and powerful corporate officers like CEO's and on the flip side I met retired Colonels that had a little chicken ranch and wore bib overalls.
One time in my life in Corporate America, I need to hire a program/project Manager for a government contract - a very long term government contract providing equipment and material to the subsurface navy. Had an applicant that was on terminal leave and was a former Navy Captain (surface Navy). I had and offer letter in my hand for a starting salary of $80,000. (1988).
I asked if he had any questions before we concluded our interview and he stated that he noted a small Marine Corps flag set on my desk and asked my rank. I stated that I had retired 11 years ago as a Master Sargeant. Then asked him if that would bother him, working directly for me, as I directly reported to the Corporate Operations Officer? He stated, "that might be a problem". I asked him, If knowing I had gotten my bachelors while in the service a Master from Stanford after I retired and had 10 years of exceptional performance with this corporation and was on the fast track and obviously as his boss and the boss of other Program/Project Managers with budget responsibility close to a Billion annually would that make a difference? Would the fact that I had customers that were Admirals and Generals and I briefed them on their projects frequently and had luches with them. He stated "a bit, but it would still bother me that I was working for a former enlisted." I have no idea where he went to work, etc. To me it was a sad experience.. to think that Some people think rank is so important....
