Dr. Dillner
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If one does carry "hot" is there not a greater chance for accidental fire, or are modern handguns safer now?
To carry hot or not?
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gejoslin
Illegitimi non carborundu
There's a greater chance that the BG is going to get the upper hand because your already behind the curve. Your reacting to an attack already in progress.
The_Outlaw
~The Dude Abides~
I'll re-post this trusty video clip once again. Please watch it. It will best answer your question imvho.
escapedthematrix
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Proper gear is also important. A quality holster that covers the trigger is necessary. And yes, carry hot.
tacoin4low
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N R A
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Thanks for the video!
jfisch
Resident Troll
Yeah, but with your safety on what good is this to you?
NotTwoShure
Well-known member
I do not understand your post. Why would he have to carry hot, rack the slide to load the mag?
jfisch
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He's saying carry +1. If it's a 9 rd mag load the chamber, take out the mag and add 1 to make 9 again then re insert the mag. Voila! 9+1
For my EDC I have a 9 rd and 15 rd mag. So I carry 9+1 or 15+1. Full mag plus full chamber.
dgifted
I Love My Rugers
Thanks Outlaw for posting the video. It points out in graphic terms the same thing explained by local LEO after a recent BG attack with a large knife against 3 LEO. (See my post page 9). The police spokesman made the same point that 21' gives the LEO a chance to draw and fire to stop the BG. Anything less turns the odds in the BG's favor. If I have a firearm without a round chambered, 21' won't do me any good, more like 30' minimum to draw, chamber and fire and that would be questionable. I will always carry full magazine +1 chambered or might as well leave it at home because carrying it would give me an unrealistic expectation that I could defend myself against a BG.
wolf_fire
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Define what you mean by "accidental fire". There is negligent discharge where the operator knowingly or negligently disobeyed the four rules for safe gun handling. When one obeys those rules, yes a modern handgun will not go off by itself.
Deanimator
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I suppose it depends upon whether you think you can draw and chamber a round one handed while trying to fight off one or more assailants... and do so with NO chance of creating a failure to feed.
I periodically see people claim that they can chamber a round one handed... I've NEVER seen anyone claim they could do so while trying to defend themselves from a physical assault. That's EXACTLY what happened to a guy a year or two ago in Dayton who was jumped by a couple of imbeciles while he was pumping gas. By his own admission, had he not had a round chambered, they would have prevailed and got his gun. Instead, one of them got a couple of rounds of .45acp in the abdomen.
NotTwoShure
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Oh, I see. I guess it is the way it is stated. I simply put a round in the chamber, and lock on the 1911's on the Glock it is just a load chamber, keep finger off the trigger and insurt mag.
XD40scinNC
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An accidental discharge is when a POS gun discharges without a finger on the trigger, from being dropped, from the hammer snagging on clothing and falling, or other malfunctions. If you have such a gun and carry it, frankly you are a fool to carry it.
Negligent discharges are when the gun is being handled or manipulated and a finger is on the trigger at the wrong time, one of the 4 rules has been broken.
Gunsmith told me of a Glock that was chambered, and forgotten on the roof of a car, and came off at about 50 MPH (guy heard the clatter), skidded down the road, hit curb, and pretty much the worst for wear. End of the mag came off, spring and all rounds came out, but the round in the chamber did not fire.
Also follows that if you drop a gun, don't try and catch it. It won't discharge by hitting the floor, but finger in the wrong place during the catch can go bad.
Stengun
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Howdy,
No need to carry a semi-auto pistol with a round chambered because the BG(s) will ALWAYS allow you to slowly and safely draw your weapon and with the pistol pointed in a safe direction, chamber a round. Most will even let you eject your mag and top it off BEFORE they bash your head in with an axe handle.
Pretty simple.
Paul
No need to carry a semi-auto pistol with a round chambered because the BG(s) will ALWAYS allow you to slowly and safely draw your weapon and with the pistol pointed in a safe direction, chamber a round. Most will even let you eject your mag and top it off BEFORE they bash your head in with an axe handle.
Pretty simple.
Paul
