Those that gouged, we will remember. Those that remained reasonable, thank you.

[Warbirds]

I won't want to delve into insults but just because a site lists a product for sale at X price, the fact that they are OUR OF STOCK means that it is not available for sale. IN OTHER WORDS THEY AIN"T SELLING IT AT THAT PRICE
so don't insult my intelligence with a link that shows reasonably priced ammo that is not available for sale

Sportsman's Warehouse: America's Premier Hunting, Fishing & Camping Outfitter

They aren't selling online, instore only. Website shows their prices. I was just there, they have just about everything in stock except 9mm and .22 I haven't bought anything but reloading supplies from them lately but I have a nice receipt showing my 30 round Troy battlemags I paid $15.99 for.

Cabelas has 7.62x39 in stock for $5.99

 

[Koolbota]

Here's something for the girls to really cry about-

LMFAO

INTRODUCED BY Senator Yee
( Principal coauthor: Senator Steinberg )
( Coauthor: Senator De León Coauthors: Senators De León and Hancock )
( Coauthor: Assembly Member Portantino Coauthors: Assembly Members Feuer and Portantino )

APRIL 1, 2013

An act to amend Section 40113 of, to amend, repeal, and add Section 50800 of, and to add
Sections 50527 and 50618 to, the Penal Code, relating to communications of and/or about firearms.


LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST
SB 115, as amended, Yee. Electronic Communications: assault weapon conversations.
Assault weapon discussions. Existing law, with certain exceptions, entitles the
population to assault weapon discussions and conversations, as defined, and
protects citizens from violations subject to criminal penalties. Existing law defines
a conversation as a a dialog between one or more persons face-to-face (FTF), via landline
or cellular communication devices, or via other electronic communication pathways (i.e. the
public internet).

This bill would define "assault conversation" for this purpose to mean any conversation
between one or more civilians where one or more trigger words are used. The bill would
declare that these trigger words are contained in a living document that can be changed as
the government sees appropriate based on the behavior and emotional mentality of the general
population. Existing law would direct the Attorney General to adopt regulations, and would
make these amendments operative July 1, 2014. By expanding the definition of existing crimes,
this bill would impose a state-mandated local program. The California Constitution requires
the state to reimburse local agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the
state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that reimbursement. This bill would
provide that no reimbursement is required by this act for a specified reason. This bill would,
commencing July 1, 2014, and with certain exceptions, prohibit any person from making references
to weapons, selling books containing references to weapons, loaning books with references to weapons,
transferring recorded conversation where weapons or weaponry is discussed, or possessing any
conversations, digital or otherwise, as defined, designed solely and exclusively to convert certain
civilians with an anti-gun mentality into firearms afficiandos with the capacity to accept a
rational and logical argument regarding weapons, weaponry or the second amendment. Violations will
be subject to criminal penalties. By creating new crimes, this bill would impose a state-mandated
local program.


Link Removed

Before anyone gets their panty in a bunch- It's joke.

But you never know.

 

[Deserteagle]

I won't want to delve into insults but just because a site lists a product for sale at X price, the fact that they are OUR OF STOCK means that it is not available for sale. IN OTHER WORDS THEY AIN"T SELLING IT AT THAT PRICE
so don't insult my intelligence with a link that shows reasonably priced ammo that is not available for sale

You really are as dumb as I thought you may be. I give up talking to you. I would rather just talk to a wall because it probably has more common sense than you.

 

[BluesStringer]

You really are as dumb as I thought you may be. I give up talking to you. I would rather just talk to a wall because it probably has more common sense than you.

Boy, talk about lacking common sense.....

Manufacturers and retailers always list low prices on the web for high-demand/low-supply merchandise. I collect knives. Kershaw, Spyderco, Benchmade and all the rest put out catalogs listing MSRP for each year's new products, then they send sales reps to SHOT, Blade and whatever other industry shows to get interviewed by trade-mags and the YouTube reviewers, show them the prototypes of the new products, give a date that they think they'll be available, and then let slip the "street price" they anticipate they'll go for, which is usually about 20 - 25% less than MSRP. As soon as the manufacturers get out their "predictions," retailers tack on another 10 - 20% discount on top of that, list the items on their sites as "out of stock" or "receive email to be notified when this item is in stock," all this for merchandise that won't be available to the public for sometimes as long as a year out. So for the next few (or several) months, you search on the name or stock number of a knife you're interested in and bookmark who has the lowest price listed for items that the first run is not even off the assembly line yet. When the first run finally makes it to the shelves, the prices go right back to where the manufacturers "predicted" they would sell on the "street" for.

The only exception to the above scenario that I've seen is if a given retailer is selling pre-orders for their first shipment. In those cases, the prices are honestly advertised, but in all other cases, they're always listed WAY below what they will actually sell for on the hope (by the retailers) that enough people will bookmark the page and "commit" (within themselves) to buy from that "well-priced" retailer.

apbvguy is absolutely right. A website listing prices for stuff they don't have available to sell is meaningless.

Blues

 

[Warbirds]

You really are as dumb as I thought you may be. I give up talking to you. I would rather just talk to a wall because it probably has more common sense than you.

I think that integrity offends these morons. Places like midway and Brownells and psa are awesome at notifying when the mysterious " out of stock" items become available. 119$ stripped lowers at psa, 14$ AR mags at Brownells, Sierra 308 bullets at midway. All have been available at pre December prices if you show some patience. I gave examples of a local Big box store selling ammo at regular price, Wal-Mart when they get it in sells at regular price. What is so difficult that these dummies can't understand that not everyone is a price gouging prick.

I think that they are on the selling end of this crap.

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[apvbguy]

and people wonder why the US in such trouble, it is sad

 

[Warbirds]

and people wonder why the US in such trouble, it is sad

Where is all the bluster about no one selling at pre December prices? Didn't you call deserteagle out saying he could never find proof? Out of stock means they aren't selling at that price remember?

Out of stock means you have to wait for more to arrive, that is if you are dealing with a reputable store like the ones I mentioned.

Come on down to Sportsmans Warehouse, buy yourself an AR15 at pre panic prices, pick yourself up some mags at pre panic prices and grab yourself some 223 at pre panic prices and apologize to deserteagle.

I doubt you are man enough to apologize.

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[Deserteagle]

I think that integrity offends these morons. Places like midway and Brownells and psa are awesome at notifying when the mysterious " out of stock" items become available. 119$ stripped lowers at psa, 14$ AR mags at Brownells, Sierra 308 bullets at midway. All have been available at pre December prices if you show some patience. I gave examples of a local Big box store selling ammo at regular price, Wal-Mart when they get it in sells at regular price. What is so difficult that these dummies can't understand that not everyone is a price gouging prick.

I think that they are on the selling end of this crap.

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Agreed. Midway was selling some Remington .22LR last night for 7 cents a round. The morons wouldnt believe it unless it was in stock and still available. Midway sold out within hours. It's pretty weird how some websites can still sell ammo for normal pricing as compared to other websites that sell .22LR for 40 cents a round. Common sense says that some companies are trying to make as much money off us as they can during these uncertain times.

 

[B2Tall]

We sold cases of Federal .556 for $399 before Sandy Hook occured (a little less for .223). At the peak of all the panic buying we were selling the same case for $999. Is that "gouging"?? Not when you consider that my boss had to pay $700 for every one of those post-Sandy Hook cases. Our markup in both instances was virtually identical. (It's now selling in the $750 range). My boss also has to pay a premium for many models of firearms if he expects to get them and that results in prices going up. Way up in some cases.

 

[apvbguy]

Where is all the bluster about no one selling at pre December prices? Didn't you call deserteagle out saying he could never find proof? Out of stock means they aren't selling at that price remember?

Out of stock means you have to wait for more to arrive, that is if you are dealing with a reputable store like the ones I mentioned.

Come on down to Sportsmans Warehouse, buy yourself an AR15 at pre panic prices, pick yourself up some mags at pre panic prices and grab yourself some 223 at pre panic prices and apologize to deserteagle.

I doubt you are man enough to apologize.

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out of stock means that it isn't available, when I walk into a store and try to buy an advertised item and it isn't in stock, I don't care that they might be able to get it down the road. posting an ad for 500 rnds @ $29 and not being able to deliver is almost false advertising, I am not going to get into playing semantics with you, if it isn't available when advertised then the price advertised has no meaning to me.

 

[Warbirds]

Agreed. Midway was selling some Remington .22LR last night for 7 cents a round. The morons wouldnt believe it unless it was in stock and still available. Midway sold out within hours. It's pretty weird how some websites can still sell ammo for normal pricing as compared to other websites that sell .22LR for 40 cents a round. Common sense says that some companies are trying to make as much money off us as they can during these uncertain times.

I don't find it weird. One store flat out told me that they won't raise prices until their suppliers do.

I am now a big believer in the "product arrival" notifications that some online stores offer. Between those and the slickguns website I have been able to find just about everything I have needed with some patience. Brownells just sent me the A2 buffer tube I needed to finish my 308 lower, for the same price that it was when I signed up to be notified that it was back in stock.

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[Deserteagle]

I don't find it weird. One store flat out told me that they won't raise prices until their suppliers do.

I am now a big believer in the "product arrival" notifications that some online stores offer. Between those and the slickguns website I have been able to find just about everything I have needed with some patience. Brownells just sent me the A2 buffer tube I needed to finish my 308 lower, for the same price that it was when I signed up to be notified that it was back in stock.

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The "weird" comment was sarcasm lol. I use those notifications as well but now everything sells out within minutes since millions of people use those notifications! Hopefully by this summer we will have more ammo supply and certain websites will not be getting my business anymore.

 

[gejoslin]

How do you guys afford the shipping charges? $9 for buckshot shells and shipping was an extra $18. Too much for me! Just get mine here when I can. 16 ga buckshot isn't common.

 

[Warbirds]

It sucks for a single item, but the lower cost plus the shipping spread over multiple items still makes it cheaper.

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[gejoslin]

It sucks for a single item, but the lower cost plus the shipping spread over multiple items still makes it cheaper.

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Well, he!! I didn't think about that! I can be dense sometimes. I'll check that out, thanks!

 

[tricolordad]

Our WalMart has been selling at normal prices. Has been gone within hours, but this last couple of deliveries, ammo has been starting to stay on the shelves. 9mm, 40 and 45 cal and even 223 and some of the older deer hunting calibers. And of course shotgun shells.

Of course, we're kinda out of the way, around here.

What's the prices on the .40? i may need some help getting some, my source dried up :-(. Pm me!

 

[Kramer1113]

The worst examples of price gouging I have run into has been at the gun shows. Its a darn shame.

 

[Warbirds]

Link Removed Cal-Ranch selling 9mm for ONE HUNDREAD FORTY NINE DOLLARS a box.. just like apvbguy said...........
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LOL... it's $14.99 just like deserteagle said. May these price gougers don't understand decimals........
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Punch in 84401 for the zip to see 63 boxes in stock
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Funny how when you prove someone wrong they seem to disappear.......

 

[Courtney.cj.chen]

Funny how when you prove someone wrong they seem to disappear.......

I came across an old thread several weeks ago, when i was on here reading about ammo prices in a post dating many months back- where apvguy stated that he buys in bulks of several thousand at a time. Now, i think thats great. And i too did the same for the past 6 years whenever i found a good sale. One of the differences between people like me and people like apv- is that he loves to smear the fact that he is better prepared in the faces of everyone who has less or is less prepared - by CONSISTENTLY telling everyone that the days of pre-dec 12' priced ammo are OVER- and anyone that disagrees with his opinions- are "OBVIOUSLY less prepared" <- sarcastically speaking. He will bash anyone who wants to say that these shortages are caused by consumer behavior (in addition to government purchases). I used to pay $12.50 for a 50rd box of 9mm at walmart. I will be so bold as to say that, that day will COME AGAIN within the year.

look all around you. 30 rd magazines which used to be priced at $40-60 a piece...are now down to $13-14 for quality aluminum ones and great polymer ones alike. People who invested ALOT of money into buying up all the mags just so they could sell them for 2x-3x (so if this doesn't apply to you... it doesn't apply)... they've gotta dump these back into the market for at cost prices bc the market is about to be flooded with alot of 30rders....

and as production is catching up with polymer ($70) and aluminum ($120) stripped lower receivers- AGAIN- something that was obsolete for a couple months until recently... has caused many people who bought up these receivers so they could make some money (again...so if this doesn't apply to you... it doesn't apply)- to hurry and sell these- before the rest of the gun community collectively starts to realize that- hey! the prices of these stripped lowers are back to normal!!!

i had a convo with a member on here the other day about how bolt carrier groups were either not existent- or completely ridiculously priced- and BAM! midway USA comes out with a $147 BCG (and the prices will only come down even more)....

handguns are becoming more and more reasonably priced- and coming down- slowly and steadily. Now one of the main problems left is also the product that is most affected by consumer behavior- because its lower priced/more affordable- and easier to purchase- and that'd be ammo. Heck yea- the govt buying 1.6B rds of ammo does NOT help the situation. now heres an old tune: but us buying everything we see in sight wont help either. Anyhow... i think that the "consumer behavior" i went thru the other day- is soon to be something most of the rest of us buying ammo will feel as well:

i'd been going on slickguns alot because i've been really excited about these two ar rifles that i've been building. When i initially saw the $70 poly lower and $120 aluminum lower- i immediately ordered them. And then the lower parts kits and stocks... and bolt carrier groups... and when i saw the rest of the parts become available for SOMEWHAT reasonable prices- like that $180 chrome lined, 1/7" 16" stripped barrel- i started holding off- bc i really felt that things are becoming more and more available... and that if i wait - that- it wont disappear- but rather... i will get a better deal later from a drop in prices. i KNOW this will happen with ammo. (I've always bought 9mm at 25cents a rd. (and .223 at far far less... I never considered doing military surplus with pistol ammo until recently)) it just will take much longer... but i think we will see tremendous difference in 6 months and back to pre-dec 12' prices in 18 months.

 

[Andrew49417]

Bluestringer- you might want to hold onto that silver. When Feinstein outlaws "assault elements," Pb (lead) will be at the top. Silver might slip through because of its usefulness in jewelry.