The trial of George Zimmerman

Lets divide the field here.
Two teams. One team says Mr. Zimmerman will be convicted.
The other team says he will be found innocent.

Pick your side. When the trial is over the team that had it wrong each contribute $25.00 to the NRA. (Not a membership but a contribution).

I say Mr. Zimmerman will be found innocent of murder of any kind i.e. 1st degree, 2nd degree...

Losers post non-ID receipt info following payment.

IMHO, only the NRA and Mr. Zimmerman will benefit.

I'll bite! Not Guilty as charged!
Nobody is innocent. imho
 
There's Zimmerman's side and Martin's side and then there's the truth. Of that we will never know. I haven't been following too close but I have a question. Has it been said why Martin attacked Zimmerman? Did he feel threatened because he was being followed?


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Lets divide the field here.
Two teams. One team says Mr. Zimmerman will be convicted.
The other team says he will be found innocent.

Pick your side. When the trial is over the team that had it wrong each contribute $25.00 to the NRA. (Not a membership but a contribution).

I say Mr. Zimmerman will be found innocent of murder of any kind i.e. 1st degree, 2nd degree...

Losers post non-ID receipt info following payment.

IMHO, only the NRA and Mr. Zimmerman will benefit.

I'm in...with one exception. I don't like the NRA at all. I'll donate to usacarry instead.

There's Zimmerman's side and Martin's side and then there's the truth. Of that we will never know. I haven't been following too close but I have a question. Has it been said why Martin attacked Zimmerman? Did he feel threatened because he was being followed?

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That will be impossible to know as Martin will never be able to tell us why. Some will say he was frightened. Some well say it's because he was a punk. I have my opinion on it, but opinions shouldn't matter in this case.
 
Lets divide the field here.
Two teams. One team says Mr. Zimmerman will be convicted.
The other team says he will be found innocent.

Pick your side. When the trial is over the team that had it wrong each contribute $25.00 to the NRA. (Not a membership but a contribution).

I say Mr. Zimmerman will be found innocent of murder of any kind i.e. 1st degree, 2nd degree...

Losers post non-ID receipt info following payment.

IMHO, only the NRA and Mr. Zimmerman will benefit.
I'd contribute to the NRA-ILA as they are the lobbying/legal group of the NRA, otherwise, good challenge!

Don't like the NRA? How about GOA or any worthwhile pro 2nd amendment group of your choosing?
 
I'd contribute to the NRA-ILA as they are the lobbying/legal group of the NRA, otherwise, good challenge!

Don't like the NRA? How about GOA or any worthwhile pro 2nd amendment group of your choosing?

Very Reasonable. I'm still in for the NRA or maybe USA Carry.
 
Not True

That I knew about. I'm referring to what lead up to the confrontation. The witness who saw Martin on top didn't see who the initial aggressor was. That's where the dilemma is.

If you read the statute, you'll find whomever the initial aggressor was, is irrelevant. The initial aggressor regains his right to lethal self-defense after expressing his desire to disengage (i.e. yelling 'help' for 40 seconds), and if he fears great bodily injury.
 
There is an actual crime scene that shows a trajectory of a bullet also !
As a Cop who worked in Camden NJ, the evidence can cooperate or implicate, I can tell you all this, has the trajectory been one of GZ on top of TM that info would have been released by the prosecution or TM's family, but the evidence most likely cooberates GZ's version along w his injuries,his version can be pieced together, hence why The Local Prosecutors wouldn't charge him..
Whether he followed TM is moot, onceTM placed hands on shut that prolly never used his fists in his life becomes the issue.. If I take 20 people from this board and place em in. Same scenario 20 people all will have a different view as to if there life wading jeopardy..
My point is I cannot say ifHE( GZ) felt HIS LIFE to be in jeopardy, only he can say that for himself... This is all based on someone's experience and one down perception.. For LAW Enfte standard is what would a reasonable person w training do ? And it certainly wouldn't have to even be in the situation to begin w, but GZ is not in LE and now the standard becomes did hefeel like he could have been killed or severely injured...
 
No audio recordings allowed...

Announced this evening - judge DISALLOWS audio recordings from the incident for both sides since experts cannot agree on who is doing the screaming.
 
Announced this evening - judge DISALLOWS audio recordings from the incident for both sides since experts cannot agree on who is doing the screaming.

Probably the best the prosecution was hoping for all along, since it's unfathomable how they could have made that claim it was TM in the first place.

"You honor... we will now prove that it was actually Mr. Martin screaming for help, while Mr. Zimmerman was on his back holding Mr. Martin on top of him, punching Mr. Martin's fists repeatedly using his nose, and then bashing the back of his own head into sidewalk in an effort to gross him out."
 
Probably the best the prosecution was hoping for all along, since it's unfathomable how they could have made that claim it was TM in the first place.

"You honor... we will now prove that it was actually Mr. Martin screaming for help, while Mr. Zimmerman was on his back holding Mr. Martin on top of him, punching Mr. Martin's fists repeatedly using his nose, and then bashing the back of his own head into sidewalk in an effort to gross him out."

Too true! Using his head as a self defence weapon just to confuse that poor boy. How devious. :sarcastic:
 
Ok... I tried but couldn't figure out a way to link to just the guy's blog that has all kinds of info on the Zimmerman case so I'll just have to link to his posts in a different forum. The guy's blog doesn't allow starting from scratch and following along as he adds to it.

Anyway... for an ongoing commentary on the Zimmerman Trial from someone right there please check out:

MGO Community Forum

and:

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for a daily coverage of the trial.
 
I have a different take on this situation. Was Travon tired of being stalked and just standing his ground? I am surprised this has not been posited, at least publicly. Another thing - Zimmerman was not a member of a recognized and trained Neighborhood Watch team. His actions, not honoring being told to stand down, show his total lack of training of any kind, let alone showing common sense. Botttom line, there should not have been a loss of life that night.
 
I have a different take on this situation. Was Travon tired of being stalked and just standing his ground? I am surprised this has not been posited, at least publicly. Another thing - Zimmerman was not a member of a recognized and trained Neighborhood Watch team. His actions, not honoring being told to stand down, show his total lack of training of any kind, let alone showing common sense. Botttom line, there should not have been a loss of life that night.

All old arguments. If you look at a couple of different threads dealing with this situation, you will see variations of your arguments.
 
I have a different take on this situation. Was Travon tired of being stalked and just standing his ground? I am surprised this has not been posited, at least publicly. Another thing - Zimmerman was not a member of a recognized and trained Neighborhood Watch team. His actions, not honoring being told to stand down, show his total lack of training of any kind, let alone showing common sense. Botttom line, there should not have been a loss of life that night.
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