Signs of the End of the Age & The Last Generation
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So what, exactly, are you saying? Do some Christians go to hell, or no?
I see, so when you said "[t]hat may be what you believe" in reference to my post about Christians going to hell, you mean that's what you believe too. Thanks for clarifying.
If I'm misinterpreting your posts (for which I apologize, if I am), please clarify by just answering the simple question: Do you believe that some Christians will go to hell?
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When standing before judgment day have a good lawyer.
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Bless me father for I have sinned. This is my attorney, Mr. Goldstein, he'll be arguing my case.
Ringo
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Prophetic Analysis--White House Emboldens Ezekiel 38 Coalition
Irrespective of whether a “deal” can be reached between Iran and the White House that in theory delays Iran’s nuclear ambitions ten years, there are tremendous prophetic implications. The Islamic Marxist “president” occupying the White House has accelerated prophecy by unlocking a 35 year ban of negotiating with the terrorist-sponsoring state in such a way that directly impacts Israel and promotes Iran as a main-stage player on the evil side in the Middle East. These negotiations are so important to advancing Islam against Israel, that the “president” is going dark, telling reporters that he will make the case to the American people about the Iranian deal after it is done. The Weekly Standard reports that the “president” responded to a letter sent to Iran by nearly 50 Senators saying the “president” does not have the authority or political backing to cut the deal. He tried to tie the Senators to the Iranian terrorists saying, “I think it's somewhat ironic to see some members of Congress wanting to make common cause with the hardliners in Iran. It's an unusual coalition." Then the “president” said he would make the deal and then reveal what’s in it: “And once we do--if we do--then we’ll be able to make the case to the American people, and I'm confident we’ll be able to implement it." In other words, the “president” will do his deal irrespective of the danger it poses to America or to Israel.
The mere elevation of Iran to a level of prominence as this White House has done, accelerates the prophecy clock. Iran’s leadership has repeatedly stated that Israel must be eliminated from the face of the earth. The “president’s” actions embolden, not discourage, the coalition of the nations mentioned in Ezekiel 38 to come against Israel “as a cloud to cover the land. (Ezekiel 38:15).” A study of ancient maps and historic texts reveal these nations today are: Turkey (Togarmah) Russia (Magog, Meshech, Tubal); Iran (Persia); Sudan and North Eastern Africa (Ethiopia) and Libya (Libya and North Western Africa). The “president’s” support of Arab Spring starting in 2010 already destabilized Libya and Northern Africa. Irrespective of whether Iran has a nuclear weapon, recent actions accelerate the Ezekiel 38 prophecy toward reality. Some believe that the Ezekiel 38 battle involves a man-made nuclear weapon. This is not likely because the account of Ezekiel 38 says that Adonai Elohim (Hebrew for “Lord God,” the Creator and Judge) himself causes a great earthquake in Israel, rain, hailstones, fire, and brimstone. God says he does these things “that the heathen may know me (verse 16)” and “I will be known in the eyes of many nations and they shall know that I am God. (verse 23)” Iran having a nuclear weapon may embolden the Ezekiel 38 coalition to attack Israel, but the world will know it is God who defeats the coalition with His own power. The “president’s” actions appear to be emboldening the Ezekiel 38 coalition against Israel.
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comments/corrections in color
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This is what the Bible says about the Bema Seat: Romans 14:10-12 says, “For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat…so then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.” Second Corinthians 5:10 tells us, “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.” In the context, it is clear that both scriptures are referring to Christians, not unbelievers. The judgment seat of Christ, therefore, involves believers giving an account of their lives to Christ. The judgment seat of Christ does not determine salvation; that was determined by Christ’s sacrifice on our behalf (1 John 2:2) and our faith in Him (John 3:16). All of our sins are forgiven, and we will never be condemned for them (Romans 8:1). We should not look at the judgment seat of Christ as God judging our sins, but rather as God rewarding us for our lives. Yes, as the Bible says, we will have to give an account of ourselves. Part of this is surely answering for the sins we committed. However, that is not going to be the primary focus of the judgment seat of Christ.
At the judgment seat of Christ, believers are rewarded based on how faithfully they served Christ (1 Corinthians 9:4-27; 2 Timothy 2:5). Some of the things we might be judged on are how well we obeyed the Great Commission (Matthew 28:18-20), how victorious we were over sin (Romans 6:1-4), and how well we controlled our tongues (James 3:1-9). The Bible speaks of believers receiving crowns for different things based on how faithfully they served Christ (1 Corinthians 9:4-27; 2 Timothy 2:5). The various crowns are described in 2 Timothy 2:5, 2 Timothy 4:8, James 1:12, 1 Peter 5:4, and Revelation 2:10. James 1:12 is a good summary of how we should think about the judgment seat of Christ: “Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.”
At the judgment seat of Christ, believers are rewarded based on how faithfully they served Christ (1 Corinthians 9:4-27; 2 Timothy 2:5). Some of the things we might be judged on are how well we obeyed the Great Commission (Matthew 28:18-20), how victorious we were over sin (Romans 6:1-4), and how well we controlled our tongues (James 3:1-9). The Bible speaks of believers receiving crowns for different things based on how faithfully they served Christ (1 Corinthians 9:4-27; 2 Timothy 2:5). The various crowns are described in 2 Timothy 2:5, 2 Timothy 4:8, James 1:12, 1 Peter 5:4, and Revelation 2:10. James 1:12 is a good summary of how we should think about the judgment seat of Christ: “Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.”
Ringo
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I will curse those who curse you
I WILL CURSE THOSE WHO CURSE YOU
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So, christians who murder, steal, and rape still get rewarded?
SR9
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Yes, if they repent and ask for forgiveness. God knows what is in their heart.
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Farmhood
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Not even close. That is definitely your belief... you can own that opinion for sure!
If someone is not a believer or follower of Jesus Christ do they have a "moral high ground" type of measuring stick?
Forgive me I'm just unfamiliar with it.
sinful nature is always hostile to God....
Ringo
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I Will Bless Those Who Bless You And Curse Those Who Curse You.
The situation is now so bad that Israel, for the first time in its existence, actually recognizes that the United States may not in fact “have its back.” The fact that Israel can no longer rely on the backing of the United States is being talked of today, on Sky News for example, and just in passing, as if it was obvious to all that America no longer is going to act as the security guarantors of the Jewish State.
Like a Flood
It is said in the Bible that when the end comes it will come, “…as a flood.” (Daniel 9:26).
This means that, birth pains aside, when God decides the actual period of the end has been reached things will happen very, very quickly. They will happen like a flood. Noah preached for over 100 years to a disbelieving world that judgment was coming and when the end did come, it happened unbelievably quickly.
God Himself called time on that world and decided that Noah would preach repentance no more and it was God Himself who shut the door of the Ark after shepherding the family aboard. Then, in a very short space of time, it was all over. The rains came and swept all mankind away, except Noah and his family who were safe in the Ark, an obvious picture of Jesus delivering the Church during the Tribulation period.
So with Lot in Sodom and Gomorrah. When the end came it happened quickly and was over almost in an instant, (Genesis 19). Prior to this judgment angels visited Abraham warning of this destruction, one of who is almost certain to be the pre-incarnate Jesus Christ. Abraham pleaded for the life of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Ultimately, only Lot and select members of his family were delivered from the wrath of God and when the end came, it came swiftly and the destruction was so total and complete that even today we know the general area of Sodom and Gomorrah, we do not know the exact location because there is nothing left.
The prophetic clock has lurched forward. The situation between Obama and Netanyahu is now irrevocable. Obama worked very publicly against Netanyahu during this election and it is an open secret that he despises him. Netanyahu likewise was known to have written off relations with America should he win this new term in office.
There is a fire storm coming between the United States and Israel. Both nations are being led by individuals whose trajectories put them on a direct collision course. I believe that Benjamin Netanyahu has been raised up by God to be the leader of Israel during this period in history and I can see difficult times ahead for the Jewish State in the immediate future. He is possibly the Churchill for his own age and is one of the very few people in the world who actually knows and understands the dangers Israel face in the multi-threat environment it finds itself in.
But Israel is not subject to the norms of military history because Israel will be defended by God Himself and I believe that God is turning His face once again back to the Jewish people. I believe that He is going to allow them to go to a place of international isolation where their only remaining option is to look to the God of the ages for their own deliverance.
I believe this in itself is a strong indicator that the end of the Church Age is approaching, rapidly.
Barack Obama has set himself in direct opposition to a man, I believe, is God’s current chosen leader of Israel. Not only that but Obama has worked actively and aggressively to unseat him and influence the very nature of Jewish society.
Obama has stated that in his remaining tenure as President of the United States he intends to aggressively pursue a peace settlement between the Palestinians and Israel. This will not happen now under Netanyahu yet Obama continues to actively plan to divide Israel and Jerusalem. He has made no secret of this.
I can almost hear the pages of history turning.
Jesus tells us that when we see these things beginning to come to pass we should, “…lift up our heads, for our salvation draws nigh…” (Luke 21:28).
I think we should all be looking up.
Matt Ward
"And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it". (Zechariah 12:3)
The situation is now so bad that Israel, for the first time in its existence, actually recognizes that the United States may not in fact “have its back.” The fact that Israel can no longer rely on the backing of the United States is being talked of today, on Sky News for example, and just in passing, as if it was obvious to all that America no longer is going to act as the security guarantors of the Jewish State.
Like a Flood
It is said in the Bible that when the end comes it will come, “…as a flood.” (Daniel 9:26).
This means that, birth pains aside, when God decides the actual period of the end has been reached things will happen very, very quickly. They will happen like a flood. Noah preached for over 100 years to a disbelieving world that judgment was coming and when the end did come, it happened unbelievably quickly.
God Himself called time on that world and decided that Noah would preach repentance no more and it was God Himself who shut the door of the Ark after shepherding the family aboard. Then, in a very short space of time, it was all over. The rains came and swept all mankind away, except Noah and his family who were safe in the Ark, an obvious picture of Jesus delivering the Church during the Tribulation period.
So with Lot in Sodom and Gomorrah. When the end came it happened quickly and was over almost in an instant, (Genesis 19). Prior to this judgment angels visited Abraham warning of this destruction, one of who is almost certain to be the pre-incarnate Jesus Christ. Abraham pleaded for the life of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Ultimately, only Lot and select members of his family were delivered from the wrath of God and when the end came, it came swiftly and the destruction was so total and complete that even today we know the general area of Sodom and Gomorrah, we do not know the exact location because there is nothing left.
The prophetic clock has lurched forward. The situation between Obama and Netanyahu is now irrevocable. Obama worked very publicly against Netanyahu during this election and it is an open secret that he despises him. Netanyahu likewise was known to have written off relations with America should he win this new term in office.
There is a fire storm coming between the United States and Israel. Both nations are being led by individuals whose trajectories put them on a direct collision course. I believe that Benjamin Netanyahu has been raised up by God to be the leader of Israel during this period in history and I can see difficult times ahead for the Jewish State in the immediate future. He is possibly the Churchill for his own age and is one of the very few people in the world who actually knows and understands the dangers Israel face in the multi-threat environment it finds itself in.
But Israel is not subject to the norms of military history because Israel will be defended by God Himself and I believe that God is turning His face once again back to the Jewish people. I believe that He is going to allow them to go to a place of international isolation where their only remaining option is to look to the God of the ages for their own deliverance.
I believe this in itself is a strong indicator that the end of the Church Age is approaching, rapidly.
Barack Obama has set himself in direct opposition to a man, I believe, is God’s current chosen leader of Israel. Not only that but Obama has worked actively and aggressively to unseat him and influence the very nature of Jewish society.
Obama has stated that in his remaining tenure as President of the United States he intends to aggressively pursue a peace settlement between the Palestinians and Israel. This will not happen now under Netanyahu yet Obama continues to actively plan to divide Israel and Jerusalem. He has made no secret of this.
I can almost hear the pages of history turning.
Jesus tells us that when we see these things beginning to come to pass we should, “…lift up our heads, for our salvation draws nigh…” (Luke 21:28).
I think we should all be looking up.
Matt Ward
ISRAEL..God's Prophetic Timepiece
~ Things Are Going To Get Very Ugly, Very Soon ~
MARANATHA! :victory:
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